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Militants attack Army base in Kashmir; one soldier killed, gunfight still on

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That logic works both ways - defending and monitoring a small static installation is a lot easier than defending and monitoring thousands of miles of extremely inhospitable terrain.
That is exactly what I said - the inherent difficulty in monitoring/defending thousands of miles of inhospitable terrain means that these insurgents who have been able to breach much more strongly defended static military targets in Pakistan have the skill and abilities to easily infiltrate across the LoC/IB without Pakistani Army/Ranger assistance.
 
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very sad to know hinduz also got killed by retaliation of muslims it was obvious
If you want to go down that path, it was actually a retaliation by hindus - muslims started the whole incident when they burnt 54 kar sevaks alive on the Sabarmathi express. The VHP and many other hindu organizations portray the subsequent riots as a natural response to that incident. Although I do not agree with them, they have a stronger case than you do - because the burning of hindus happened preceeded the following riots.

Personally, I regret the loss of anybody's lives, whether they were hindu or muslim or anything else. It was one of the worst chapters in independent India's history.
 
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Kashmir will get its rightful independence, through an Armed struggle to face off fake, manipulated elections and Indian forces brutalites on common Kashmirs will be answered.
:jester::haha: :rofl: :laugh: :sarcastic: :omghaha:

Seems you too know that a joke a day keeps the doctor away!! But this post of yours would keep the entire medical profession at bay!!
 
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See my previous reply to Janon - it should in fact be easier to infiltrate across thousands of miles of LoC/IB in inhospitable terrain than breach defences at a static military installation.

And firing between the Rangers and BSF has been going on for weeks now, started by your ranting and raving Modi who had also claimed weeks ago that "India had shut Pakistan's mouth", and looked like a fool when the Pakistani military continued responding to the unprovoked Indian ceasefire violations.

100 % success rate from pakistani side is still dubious. I am sure your army is not that incapable.
Asking for a single instance should not be too much, right?

And regarding LoC firing, it defies logic to say India fuel the tension as it doesn't go well with our motive of putting Kashmir issue in a dustbin.

However to put Kashmir back on burner has always been the goal of pakistan establishment coupled with internal political turmoil which was never seen to that effect.

Modi is appointed well for 5 yrs, raking Kashmir doesn't fit the bill anymore. Weak argument.
 
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If you want to go down that path, it was actually a retaliation by hindus - muslims started the whole incident when they burnt 54 kar sevaks alive on the Sabarmathi express. The VHP and many other hindu organizations portray the subsequent riots as a natural response to that incident. Although I do not agree with them, they have a stronger case than you do - because the burning of hindus happened preceeded the following riots.

Personally, I regret the loss of anybody's lives, whether they were hindu or muslim or anything else. It was one of the worst chapters in independent India's history.

how can a miniority in india could start a riot when they know hinduz are extremist they already destroyed Muslim's Babri Mosque .. Riots in gujrat were properly planned by some Hindu Extremist group
 
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100 % success rate from pakistani side is still dubious. I am sure your army is not that incapable.
Asking for a single instance should not be too much, right?
How do you know it is a "100% success rate"? Even the instances of infiltration/attempted infiltration recorded by the IA/BSF are down significantly compared to before the ceasefire agreement that Musharraf entered into. So while you could argue that the instances prevented by the BSF/IA are due to enhanced measures on their side, the fact that the TOTAL number of attempted+prevented infiltration attempts is down significantly means that the Pakistani side has also played a significant role.
And regarding LoC firing, it defies logic to say India fuel the tension as it doesn't go well with our motive of putting Kashmir issue in a dustbin.
Modi's goal was not related to Kashmir, it was related to puffing his chest out in front of the electorate and win a larger majority in the elections that took place. Pakistan has no incentive to heat up the LoC/WB at this point because it has 150,000 troops deployed in fighting the TTP in FATA.
 
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How were they identified as LeT?
Because of this...
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Pakistani identity card of the slain militant

The LeT and JeM are the ones being infiltrated across. Not the TTP or Afghan Taliban!
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how can a miniority in india could start a riot when they know hinduz are extremist they already destroyed Muslim's Babri Mosque .. Riots in gujrat were properly planned by some Hindu Extremist group
The Gujarat riots of 2002 are completely off topic for this thread, so this is my last comment about those.

How does it matter whether a group is a minority or a majority? The number of muslims in India is about 180 million, which is more than the number of people in the Arab world, or even certain continents. They can start a riot if they wanted to. (Not saying they did.)

The facts of the Gujarat riots are that:
1) It was sparked off when muslims burnt and killed hindu kar sevaks in Vadodara in Gujarat.
2) Riots ensued, in which hindus and muslims killed each other. 800 muslims and 254 hindus were killed.

Babri mosque? Do you know how many thousands of hindu, buddhist annd jain temples were razed to the ground by muslims? Including the temple that used to stand on the spot that Babri Masjid was built on? Would you be OK with hindus destroying the Kaba and building a temple to Rama on the same spot? The place where B mosque stood is the spot that hindus believed to be the birthplace of Rama, and therefore one of hinduism's holiest sites.

Note: I do not condone the destruction of the B mosque or any other place of worship. But don't bring in such irrelevancies on a thread about Pakistani terrorists making life difficult for Indian Kashmiris.
 
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The Gujarat riots of 2002 are completely off topic for this thread, so this is my last comment about those.

How does it matter whether a group is a minority or a majority? The number of muslims in India is about 180 million, which is more than the number of people in the Arab world, or even certain continents. They can start a riot if they wanted to. (Not saying they did.)

The facts of the Gujarat riots are that:
1) It was sparked off when muslims burnt and killed hindu kar sevaks in Vadodara in Gujarat.
2) Riots ensued, in which hindus and muslims killed each other. 800 muslims and 254 hindus were killed.

Babri mosque? Do you know how many thousands of hindu, buddhist annd jain temples were razed to the ground by muslims? Including the temple that used to stand on the spot that Babri Masjid was built on? Would you be OK with hindus destroying the Kaba and building a temple to Rama on the same spot? The place where B mosque stood is the spot that hindus believed to be the birthplace of Rama, and therefore one of hinduism's holiest sites.

Note: I do not condone the destruction of the B mosque or any other place of worship. But don't bring in such irrelevancies on a thread about Pakistani terrorists making life difficult for Indian Kashmiris.


800 Muslims killed this shows who were the aggressors RIP innocent muslims of India .
 
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