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MiG-21s & F-7s Specifications & Capabilities

The F-7P is a potent defence fighter while the PG is a much more capable machine, sometimes described as poor man's F-16 and not without reason, apart from BVR capability, unlike other versions it has a double cranked delta feature with leading edge slats giving it outstanding manoeuvrability. Considering India still operates a large quantity of the likes of MiG-21s and Jaguars, F-7 is an ideal platform to counter these adversaries.

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@Pulsar, It's very simple, the flag is painted in the mirror image.
F-7PG and P doesn't have the capability to fire BVR missiles.

In any case, in the right hands, the poor man's machine certainly gave some Americans and French a run for their money but you obviously are not interested in the capability and rather the terminology.

And let me guess, pakistan has the rightest hands in the world ? :D
LMAO
 
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F-7PG and P doesn't have the capability to fire BVR missiles.


LMAO
No one claimed thus for the ''P'' version.
The ''PG'' was inducted in the middle of 2002 hostilities with India...... not to fire sidewinders, since PAF already had that capability..... and better fighters to equip with ''Lima'' and ''Pappa''.
 
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That's not how Air Forces work. Even fighter planes are assigned different roles. The best aircraft are always used as front line air defence in all Air Forces. Why? Because if the enemy raid succeeds, the loss will be devastating. Most raids are conducted against airfields. Say you use F-7's as a front line defence, and it fails to stop the enemy in time, or it may stop them after the enemy has reached and unloaded its bombs on the target due to slow speed. What is the result? Loss of airplanes, air bases etc. So while trying to save your F-16's, you ended up losing a lot more. F-16's will use their fast speed to stop the enemy before they try to reach your airbase or other strategic buildings.


Again, it is highly unlikely IAF will conduct a raid with Mig-29's or Bisons. Why? The best aircraft are used in strike roles as well. They will most probably use Su-30's for this role due to it's long range and fast speed. Mig-29's and Bisons will most probably be used in point defence roles. If Bison will be unable to penetrate Pakistan Airspace, why even bother with risking the aircraft? You need a fast plane that can go in and then come back as well.
So what is the role of these other aircraft since the best planes are being used for defence and strikes as well? Well they are mostly used in a defensive role in support of your best planes.

In the 1980s I think the PAF was trying out the F-16 in actual combat scenarios to see how good the aircraft was.

If I was running the Indian air force I would not send my best aircraft to intercept intruders from Burma or Bangladesh. MiG-21 Bison should suffice

The MiG-29 and Bisons are primarily fighter aircraft which is why they would never be sent on strike missions.
 
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PAF F-7 is same like MIG 21 Bison........ they can be use only intercept and both are having same capability:-)
 
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PAF F-7 is same like MIG 21 Bison........ they can be use only intercept and both are having same capability:-)
Not exactly. The Bison is a much more capable machine in terms of BVR and Jamming systems. It is however outclassed in manoeuvrability completely by both the F-7(due to lighter weight and better wing loading) and F-7PG(much better aerodynamics).
 
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Mig 21,bison will not confront the f7 or f7bg. Both planes will stay put in their respective airspace.

The bison will challenge paf strike planes if they cross loc and that will be only falcons or mirages

Vice versa iaf will cross over in much larger nos with su30mki mirages and jags
 
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I came across many folks on this forum who were doubting capabilities of F-7P and PG.This thread is meant to remove there backwardness.
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The PAF has two F-7 variants in service. F-7P ‘Skybolt’ which is a variant of the F-7M ‘Airguard’ and F-7PG, which is a variant of F-7MG. There are also two-seater variants, FT-7 and FT-7PG to support the conversion of pilots to F-7P and F-7PG respectively.
Induction:
F-7P

The F-7M was evaluated by PAF in early 1987 and for this purpose two aircraft were ferried to Pakistan and trials were conducted at Peshawar and Masroor Air Bases. The evaluation included both air-to-air and air-to-ground performance. After the evaluation, 20 F-7Ps and four FT-7s were ordered and these were delivered to No. 20 Squadron in November 1988.

This was followed by delivery of sixty F-7Ps in 1988-89, fifteen FT-7s in 1990-1992 and forty F-7Ps in 1993. In total 135 aircraft were delivered and these equipped six squadrons and also a squadron of Combat Commanders School. All F-7Ps were ferried to Pakistan by PAF pilots.
F-7PG
Evaluation of F-7PG (F-7MG) was carried out by PAF pilots in Chengdu in July 1997. In total 12 sorties were flown to in which complete flight regime was explored, with particular focus on the improvements in performance of the already in-service F-7P. 57 F-7PG (including nine FT-7PG) were ordered in late 2000 to replace the F-6 flown by No. 17 and No. 23 Squadrons. Deliveries began in June 2001.
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Two CAC engineers, Wg Cdr Jamshed Khan, Mr Ma, the chief designer of F-7MG, Group Captain Shabbir Hussain, Air Attache in Beijing, Group Captain Kaiser Tufail, Wing Commander Amir Liaquat (Tech Evaluator) at CAC. [Picture courtesy: Air Cdre (Retd) Kaiser Tufail]

PAF Upgrades:
Later in service, due to operational limitations with existing Sky Ranger 7M GEC Marconi radar, tenders were floated by the PAF in South Africa and Italy for developing a combat mode, small, very economical, but effective radar for PAF’s F-7 aircraft. The Italian FIAT Company was selected out of many of the most reputed radar developing companies, as its offer was very economical and sound. The contact to co-produce 100 Grifo-7 radars by FIAT and KARF at PAC Kamra was signed in June 1993. After the production the facility was converted into depot level maintenance for this radar.GMAv Type 956 HUDWAC,Skyranger ECCM in F-7M,Martin-Baker Mk 10L seat in F-7P/PP. One-piece canopy, hinged at rear to open upward.
The primary role air defence and interception. It is an upgraded variant of the F-7M, F-7P incorporates many PAF-specific modifications such as Martin-Baker ejection seat, two extra weapon stations for a total of 5, an extra 30 mm cannon and an Italian-designed FIAR Grifo 7 multi-mode radar. F-7P was inducted in the late 1980s and early 1990s, intended to supplement a fleet of more advanced F-16 fighters. The Grifo 7 radar was later upgraded to the Grifo 7 mk.II version. The F-7PG variant incorporates a "cranked delta" wing which improves take-off, landing and turning performance considerably, as well as extra space in the nose to accommodate the much improved Grifo 7PG radar. F-7 replaced around 250 Shenyang J-6 fighters which were the PAF's workhorse throughout the 1970s and 1980s. F-7 is also used to perform limited strike duties. * J-7MP After nearly two years use of the F-7M, Pakistani Air Force (PAF) returned the 20 F-7M aircraft to China in the late 1980s with recommendations for 24 upgrades, including replacing the original GEC-Marconi Type 226 Skyranger radar with the Italian FIAR Grifo-7 radar, and AIM-9 Sidewinder capability. The Italian radar weighs 55 kg, had a slot antenna planar array, and had a range greater than 50 km, while the British radar only weighs 42 kg, with a parabolic antenna, but only had range of 15 km. Both radars have a mean time between failure rate of 200 hours.
F-7PG:
J-7MP is the design specially tailored to Pakistani requirements. * J-7PG Alternative to J-7MG, similar to the J-7MG except with Italian Grifo-MG radar, which further increased the sector of scan to +/- 30 degrees from the +/- 20 degrees of Grifo-Mk-II on F-7P. The Grifo-MG radar has better ECCM, look-down and shoot-down capabilities than its predecessor Grifo-Mk-II, while the weight remained the same. The number of targets can be tracked simultaneously is increased from the original 4 of the Grifo-Mk-II to a total of 8 of the Grifo-MG.PG's are capable to fire BVR missile known as R-Darter with range of 60+km.
DESIGN FEATURES:
Diminutive tailed delta (double-delta on F-7PG), with clipped tips to mid-mounted wings; circular-section fuselage with dorsal spine; nose intake with conical centrebody; swept tail, with large vertical surfaces and ventral fin. Wing anhedral 2° from roots; incidence 0°; thickness/chord ratio approximately 5 per cent at root, 4.2 per cent at tip; quarter-chord sweepback 49° 6' 36" (reduced on F-7PG outer panels); no wing leading-edge camber.

FLYING CONTROLS:

Manual operation, with autostabilisation in pitch and roll; hydraulically boosted inset ailerons; plain trailing-edge flaps, actuated hydraulically; forward-hinged door type airbrake each side of underfuselage below wing leading-edge; third, forward-hinged airbrake under fuselage forward of ventral fin; airbrakes actuated hydraulically; hydraulically boosted rudder and all-moving, trimmable tailplane. Leading/trailing-edge manoeuvring flaps on F-7PG.

STRUCTURE:

All-metal; wings have two primary spars and auxiliary spar; semi-monocoque fuselage, with spine housing control pushrods, avionics, single-point refuelling cap and fuel tank; blister fairings on fuselage above and below each wing to accommodate retracted mainwheels.

LANDING GEAR:
Inward-retracting mainwheels, with 600 x 200 mm tyres (pressure 11.50 bars; 167 lb/sq in) and LS-16 disc brakes; forward-retracting nosewheel, with 500 x 180 mm tyre (pressure 7.00 bars; 102 lb/sq in) and LS-15 double-acting brake. Nosewheel steerable +-47°. Minimum ground turning radius 7.04 m (23 ft 1{1/4} in). Tail braking parachute at base of vertical tail.

POWER PLANT:
Shenyang WP-7, Chinese license built copies of the R-11(38.7 kN (8,708 lbf) military power--60.6 kN (13,635 lbf) with afterburner power Mig-21)

One LMC (Liyang) WP7B(BM) turbojet (43.2 kN; 9,700 lb st dry, 59.8 kN; 13,448 lb st with afterburning) in F-7M; LMC WP13 turbojet (40.2 kN; 9,039 lb st dry, 64.7 kN; 14,550 lb st with afterburning) in J-7 III/F7-3; WP13F (44.1 kN; 9,921 lb st dry, 64.7 kN; 14,550 lb st with afterburning) in F-7PG.
Total internal fuel capacity 2,385 litres (630 US gallons; 524.5 Imp gallons, contained in six flexible tanks in fuselage and two integral tanks in each wing. Provision for carrying a 500 or 800 litre (132 or 211 US gallon; 110 or 176 Imp gallon) centreline drop tank, and/or a 500 litre drop tank on each outboard underwing pylon. Maximum internal/external fuel capacity 4,185 litres (1,105 US gallons; 920.5 Imp gallons).


ACCOMMODATION:

Pilot only, on CAC zero-height/low-speed ejection seat operable between 70 and 459 kt (130 and 850 km/h; 81 and 528 mph) IAS. Martin-Baker Mk 10L seat in F-7P/PP. One-piece canopy, hinged at rear to open upward. J-7 III/F7-3 canopy opens sideways to starboard.

SYSTEMS:

Improved electrical system in F-7M, using three static inverters, to cater for additional avionics. Jianghuai YX-3 oxygen system.

AVIONICS
Comms: GMAv AD 3400 UHF/VHF multifunction com, Chinese Type 602 IFF transponder; Type 605A (`Odd Rods' type) IFF in J-7III.

Radar: FIAR Grifo-7 in F-7P/PG. Chinese JL-7 fire-control radar in J-7III.
FIAR Grifo-7 :

I-band (8 to 10 GHz) airborne fire-control radar.

DESCRIPTION :
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The Grifo-7 is a member of the Grifo Family and operates in I-band with pulse compression techniques, Hands On Throttle And Stick (HOTAS) control and good electronic counter-countermeasures capabilities. It has full look-up and look-down capabilities through the use of pulse Doppler and medium pulse repetition frequency waveform, plus an air-to-ground ranging mode.
Two modes are selectable in air-to-air. Supersearch is used for the acquisition and tracking of the highest priority target in the head-up display field of view. The radar allows the missile seeker to be slewed to the target line of sight for offset delivery. In boresight fixed antenna pointing is used for automatic acquisition and tracking of the nearest target.
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FIAR Grifo Radar


Flight:
Navigation function of GEC-Marconi HUDWAC includes approach mode. WL-7 radio compass, XS-6A marker beacon receiver, Type 0101 HR A/2 radar altimeter and GMAv air data computer in F-7M. Beijing Aeronautical Instruments Factory KJ-11 twin-channel autopilot and FJ-1 flight data recorder in J-7III. F-7PG suite includes VOR/DME/INS and Tacan.

Instrumentation:
GMAv Type 956 HUDWAC (head-up display and weapon aiming computer) in F-7M provides pilot with displays for instrument flying, with air-to-air and air-to-ground weapon aiming symbols integrated with flight-instrument symbology. It can store 32 weapon parameter functions, allowing for both current and future weapon variants. In air-to-air combat its four modes (missiles, conventional gunnery, snapshoot gunnery, dogfight) and standby aiming reticle allow for all eventualities. VCR and infrared cockpit lighting in F-7PG, for which licence-built Russian helmet sight, slaved to PL-9 AAM, is also in production.

Self-defence:
Skyranger ECCM in F-7M. Chinese LJ-2 RWR and GT-4 ECM jammer in J-7III.

ARMAMENT (F-7M):
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Two 30 mm Type 30-1 belt-fed cannon, with 60 rds/gun, in fairings under front fuselage just forward of wingroot leading-edges. Two hardpoints under each wing, of which outer ones are wet for carriage of drop tanks. Centreline pylon used for drop tank only. Each inboard pylon capable of carrying a PL-2, -2A, -5B or -7 missile (and PL-9 on F-7PG) or, at customer's option, an R550 Magic; one 18-tube pod of Type 57-2 (57 mm) air-to-air and air-to-ground rockets; one Type 90-1 (90 mm) seven-tube pod of air-to-ground rockets; or a 50, 150, 250 or 500 kg bomb. Each outboard pylon can carry one of above rocket pods, a 50 or 150 kg bomb, or a 500 litre drop tank.
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EXTERNAL DIMENSIONS
Wing Span (except F-7PG) 7.15m (23 ft 5{5/8} in)
J-7E/F-7PG 8.32 m (27 ft 3{1/2} in)
Wing chord at root (except F-7PG) 5.51 m (18 ft 0{3/4} in)
Wing chord at tip (except F-7PG) 0.46 m (1 ft 6{1/4} in)
Wing aspect ratio (except F-7PG) 2.2
Wing aspect ratio of F-7PG 2.8
Length overall (excl nose probe) 13.945 m (45 ft 9 in)
Length overall (incl nose probe) 14.885 m (48 ft 10 in)
Fuselage length 12.175 m (39 ft 11{1/2} in)
Max diameter 1.34 m (4 ft 4{3/4} in)
Height overall 4.105 m (13 ft 5{1/2} in)
Tailplane span 3.74 m (12 ft 3{1/4} in)
Wheel track 2.69 m (8 ft 10 in)
Wheelbase 4.805 m (15 ft 9{1/4} in)
AREAS
Wings, gross (except F-7PG) 23.00 m{2} (247.6 sq ft)
Wings, gross F-7PG 24.88 m{2} (267.8 sq ft)
Ailerons total (except F-7PG) 1.18 m{2} (12.70 sq ft)
Trailing-edge flaps (total) 1.87 m{2} (20.13 sq ft)
Fin 3.48 m{2} (37.46 sq ft)
Rudder 0.97 m{2} (10.44 sq ft)
Tailplane 3.94 m{2} (42.41 sq ft)
WEIGHTS AND LOADINGS
Weight empty: F-7P 5,275 kg (11,629 lb)
Weight empty: F-7PG 5,292 kg (11,667 lb)
Normal T-O weight with 2 PL-2 or PL-7 air-to-air missiles: F-7P 7,531 kg (16,603 lb)
Normal T-O weight with 2 PL-2 or PL-7 air-to-air missiles: F-7PG 7,540 kg (16,623 lb)
Max T-O weight: F-7PG 9,100 kg (20,062 lb)
Wing loading at normal T-O weight: F-7P 327.4 kg/m^2 (67.06 lb/sq ft)
Max wing loading: F-7PG 365.8 kg/m^2 (74.91 lb/sq ft)
Power loading at normal T-O weight: F-7P 126 kg/kN (1.23 lb/lb st)
Power loading at normal T-O weight: F-7PG 141 kg/kN (1.38 lb/lb st)
PERFORMANCE
(F-7M at normal T-O weight with two PL-2 or PL-7 air-to-air missiles, except where indicated)

Never-exceed speed above 12,500 m (41,010 ft) M2.35 (1,346 kt; 2,495 km/h; 1,550 mph)
Max level speed between 12,500 and 18,500 m (41,010-60,700 ft) M2.05 (1,175 kt; 2,175 km/h; 1,350 mph)
Touchdown speed 162-173 kt (300-320 km/h; 186-199 mph)
Max rate of climb at S/L 10,800 m (35,435 ft)/min
Acceleration from M0.9 to 1.2 at 5,000 m (16,400 ft) 35 s
Max sustained turn rate: M0.7 at S/L 14.7°/s
Max sustained turn rate: M0.8 at 5,000 m (16,400 ft) 9.5°/s
Service ceiling 18,200 m (59,720 ft)
Absolute ceiling 18,700 m (61,360 ft)
T-O run 700-950 m (2,300-3,120 ft)
Landing run with brake-chute 600-900 m (1,970-2,955 ft)
Range: two PL-7 missiles and three 500 litre drop tanks 939 n miles (1,740 km
Self-ferry with one 800 litre and two 500 litre drop tanks, no missiles 1,203 n miles (2,230 km; 1,385 miles)
G limit +8
PERFORMANCE
(F-7PG)

Max operating Mach No. 2.0
Max level speed 648 kt (1,200 km/h; 745 mph)
Min level speed 114 kt (210 km/h; 131 mph)
Max rate of climb at S/L 11,700 m (38,386 ft)/min
Max instantaneous turn rate 25.2°/s
Sustained turn rate: at 1,000 m (3,280 ft) 16°/s
Sustained turn rate: at 5,000 m (16,400 ft) 11°/s
Sustained turn rate: at 8,000 m (26,250 ft) 8°/s
Service ceiling 17,500 m (57,420 ft)
Theoretical ceiling 18,000 m (59,060 ft)
Operational radius: air superiority (hi-hi-hi) with two AIM-9P AAMs and three 500 litre drop tanks, incl 5 min combat with afterburner 459 n miles (850 km; 528 miles)
Operational radius: air-to-ground attack (lo-lo-hi) with two Mk 82 bombs and two 500 litre drop tanks 297 n miles (550 km; 342 miles)
Ferry range 1,187 n miles (2,200 km; 1,367 miles)
G limits +8/-3
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Most of the info has already been posted - please search for the threads - pdf is an old forum and some one most probably has already started a thread on most topics
 
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Most of the info has already been posted - please search for the threads - pdf is an old forum and some one most probably has already started a thread on most topics
No doubt in that but still there are folks around who will only get what is present on "Home" or first page of respective forum,i posted basically to end daily arguments about F-7.
 
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No doubt in that but still there are folks around who will only get what is present on "Home" or first page of respective forum,i posted basically to end daily arguments about F-7.
Most of the threads will be moved down due to natural progression - thats why search thread option is present
 
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Most of the threads will be moved down due to natural progression - thats why search thread option is present
do you really think sir some trolls will like to search forum and as i told you how many here are hardcore professionals,more half of folks and all of trolls never bother surf other then Home and respective forum.
 
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No one claimed thus for the ''P'' version.
The ''PG'' was inducted in the middle of 2002 hostilities with India...... not to fire sidewinders, since PAF already had that capability..... and better fighters to equip with ''Lima'' and ''Pappa''.
P or PG, both suffer from a very small nose cone. And neither have the capability to fire BVRAAMs. You need to look into why they have the small nose cone by going thorough MiG-21's development history and the type which was transferred to China and subsequent mass production of the type, while soviet union went over to newer Bis models as a stop Gap plane to counter the F-16s till MiG-23s production went full swing.
 
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F-7 (MiG-21) in PAF Service





PAF F-7PG


'What is the strategy deployed against the Indian BVR fighter threat' asked an air enthusiast to a No.18 Squadron (F-7 OCU) pilot on a winter night at Mianwali.

After explaining the basics of BVR combat the fighter pilot replied, 'Imagine an Indian Su-30MKI fires a R-77 Adder at us from extreme range......'.

'Sorry to interrupt, but did you say, Su-30MKI. It is a great plane. Would you F-7 guys intercept it or evade it as it is no match for you.' said the air enthusiast.

'Well brother, Su-30MKI is a good plane but it is not invincible. It is built by humans, flown by humans and maintained by humans. It is our strong belief that if anything is created by humans it can be countered by humans. We study our adversary in great detail and have developed different strategies as per situation. Even if we are pitted against stealth fighters like F-22 we would put up a fight. If we have the guts to stand up against the Raptor, and have raised our bars of training at the level of the Raptor, the Indian Su-30 is comparatively much easier to handle."

With this confidence, i was convinced that F-7MP/PGs and PAF pilots do form a lethal combination for the enemy. Known as a modified MiG-21 in the western world and a downgraded MiG-21 by the Indians, the F-7MP currently forms the backbone of the Pakistan Air Force.

During the early 80s, PAF required a replacement for the Shengyang F-6 as the backbone of PAF. The requirement was a Mach 2 fighter, equipped with latest avionics to counter the threat posed by the following fighters:
MiG-21bis & MiG-21MF interceptors


MiG-23MF & MiG-23MLD interceptors


MiG-25R recee aircraft


MiG-23BN & MiG-27M ground attack aircraft


Su-22 & Su-25 ground attack aircraft
 
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Jaguar ground attack aircraft

The fighters/bombers mentioned above were fielded by India and Russia, in large numbers, at a time when F-6(MiG-19) was the backbone of PAF. Though an excellent fighter in all aspects the only two disadvantages of the F-6 were its speed, and lack of an A/A radar. In a couple of engagements with MiG-23MLDs, the F-6s engaged at will but could not catch up with them due to their slow speed. Similarly in their engagements with Su-25s, their missiles usually missed, mostly due to lack of modern avionics and the counter-measures taken by the Su-25s.

PAF F-6 (MiG-19S)

Earlier in the late 70s, PAF was offered the following fighters in large numbers, which could equip five full strength squadrons including an OCU:

A-7E Corsair by USA


F-5E Tigers by USA


F-7M Airguard by China


Mirage F-1C by France

Initially PAF rejected both offers of A-7E and F-5E, as PAF felt that both offers were coming a decade late. Aircraft such as F-14, F-15, F-16, F-18 and Mirage-2000 were too much expensive and could not be purchased in large numbers. Similarly, the French Mirage-F1 was similar in performance with Mirage-III/Vs already in service with PAF, and were expensive. With PAF already purchasing 40 F-16A/B Block-15s from US, their were limited funds available which made the F-1C not feasable for PAF, thus PAF decided to evaluate the Chinese offer of F-7M Airguard
 
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F-7M Airguard

F-7M was an improved J-7II variant for export with western avionics, with British GEC-Marconi as the prime contractor. Program initiated in 1978 and took six years to complete, after 10 rounds of negotiations.
Western avionics included:

British Type 226 Skyranger radar: Ranging radar that weighs 41 kg with a range of 15 km.

British Type 956 HUDWAC: This HUD has a build-in weapon aiming computer, hence the name Head-Up Display And Weapon Aiming Computer.

British Type 50-048-02 digitized air data computer

British Type 2032 camera gun, which is linked to HUD with capability to interchange rolls of film while airborne. Each roll of film lasts more than 2 minutes.
American converter that is over 30% more efficient in comparison to the original Chinese converter.

American Type 0101-HRA/2 radar altimeter with range increased to 1.5 km in comparison to the original 0.6 km of the Chinese radar altimeter it had replaced.

British AD-3400 secured radio with range in excess of 400 km at 1.2 km altitude.

Other improvement includes domestic newly designed CW-1002 air data sensor developed in conjunction with the western avionics, and WP-7B/WP-7BM engine.

A totally different wing enabled the take-off and landing distance to be reduced by 20%, while increasing the aerodynamic performance in dogfights. F-7M was nearly 40% more effective than MiG-21 in terms of overall performance. It could use French R-550 Magic and PL-7 Air-to-air missiles.
Pakistan contribution
Although Pakistan did not purchase any F-7M in the early 80s, it did provide important support for F-7M program, including:

In the last quarter of 1982, test flights revealed that the radar was plagued by the problem of picking up ground clutters. China did not have any western radar assisted air-to-ground attack experience, and had no idea of conducting the necessary flight tests specifically designed for the western avionics to solve the problem. Pakistani Air Force provided pilots (including F-16 pilots) to China to perform these tests and helped in solving this problem.



Chinese 630th Institute responsible for F-7M program lacked the facility and experience to conduct live round weapon tests with advanced western avionics, and it also lacked the capability to conduct mocked air combat with western aircraft. Therefore from June, 1984 to September, 1984, two F-7Ms were sent to Pakistan to conduct such tests. Pakistan Air Force once again provided F-16 pilots to help to complete the tests, with the Chinese team in Pakistan led by Mr. Chen Baoqi (陈宝琦) of the Chinese Aviation Ministry and Mr Xie Anqing (谢安卿) of Chengdu Aircraft Co.

Dogfight between F-6 vs F-7M in DACT
DACT with F-16A and Mirage-IIIEP, VPA, VPA2/3 took place on frequent basis and PAF was impressed with the dogfighting skills. If the aircraft was to be upgraded according to PAF's standards it could be a welcome addition, as it was better than the original MiG-21 when compared to endurance, low & high speed handling as well as thrust-to-weight ratio.

Dogfight between Mirage-IIIEP vs F-7M in DACT
Birth of F-7MP

PAF initally purchased a squadron of 20 F-7Ms in 1986 and put them to some acid tests by the most finest pilots of the PAF. These aircraft were tested up to their optimum limits and were evaluated very minutely.

Early F-7P in 1988

After nearly two years use of the F-7M, Pakistani Air Force (PAF) returned the 20 F-7M aircraft to China in the late 1980s with recommendations for 24 upgrades, including replacing the original GEC-Marconi Type 226 Skyranger radar with the Italian FIAR Grifo-7 radar, and AIM-9 Sidewinder capability.

F-7MP in 2005

The Italian radar weighs 55 kg, had a slot antenna planar array, and had a range greater than 50 km, while the British radar only weighs 42 kg, with a parabolic antenna, but only had range of 15 km. Both radars have a mean time between failure rate of 200 hours. F-7MP is the design specially tailored to Pakistani requirements.

F-7MPs over Ghazi Brotha in 2005

These twenty aircraft re-entered PAF in 1989, and were again tested extensively. This time with a powerful multimode radar and avionics, and the capability to fire AIM-9L/Magic-II missiles, these aircraft become a potent weapon system. Thus PAF was satisfied with these aircraft and ordered a large number of these fighters to replace the ageing F-6.
 
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