Mi-17 down, 26 troops martyred

[wtf]

A little civility won't hurt anyone.

Maybe it was drunk typing ?

(Sorry, this comment was only for the sake of a fun explanation for random keystrokes. No offense meant. I fully understand Islamic prohibition of alcohol. I think that just makes the joke funnier)

 

[Conscientious objector]

(Sorry for leading the thread more astray.
Statuary disclaimer: I am not an expert in Quran/Islam. )

Not that I'm an expert either but the verses posted do not relate to the question of who will and who will not go to heaven.

There are other verses that do shed light on this matter (for those who believe) but that is beyond the scope of this thread.

 

[S-2]

May these fine soldiers rest in peace and God watch over their friends and family (present arms!).

Helicopters are monstrous perversions of mechanical engineering and always one step from a flying catastrophe. Hate em'.

 

[wtf]

Helicopters are monstrous perversions of mechanical engineering and always one step from a flying catastrophe. Hate em'.

Hence Pakistani plans to build an indigenous Autogyro. In the event of an engine failure they'll at least fall softly to the ground.

 

[Xeric]

Hence Pakistani plans to build an indigenous Autogyro. In the event of an engine failure they'll at least fall softly to the ground.

Almost all helis can land safely if the engine fails, something known as "Auto-rotation"

 

[brilTek]

Maybe it was drunk typing ?

(Sorry, this comment was only for the sake of a fun explanation for random keystrokes. No offense meant. I fully understand Islamic prohibition of alcohol. I think that just makes the joke funnier)

There is no need for that. This isn't the right time & right thread to post jokes right now. Please refrain.

 

[Muradk]

I wish we had people like Gen Tikka Khan, I still remember his ADC told him we lost 1 solider today and he replied kill 10 of theirs for every 1 of ours 1971.
This is the only way to kill these bastards 26 families destroyed in one go.
They should send atleast 2 or 3 Sqd of A-5, F-7 and Mirages and blow that area up and then say now do it.

 

[Always Neutral]

I wish we had people like Gen Tikka Khan, I still remember his ADC told him we lost 1 solider today and he replied kill 10 of theirs for every 1 of ours 1971.
This is the only way to kill these bastards 26 families destroyed in one go.
They should sen atleast 2 or 3 Sqd of A-5, F-7 and Mirages and blow that area up and then say now do it.

Dear All,

I think MuradK, by his tone has summed it all. The Helo was shot down ?

MuradK, since like all ex-servicemen who feel ur pain for the dead can u suggest if there was someting which could have been done to avoid this ?

I have heard that the Mi 17 of the PAF donot have a good anti missile decoy system and the same was in the pipeline from sweden but was delayed by the MOD Civvies ?

Regards

 

[Xeric]

Still not confirmed that it was shot down...

 

[wtf]

Almost all helis can land safely if the engine fails, something known as "Auto-rotation"

From what I understand avoiding a stall of the rotors is a very difficult business when the helicopter blades are rotating at low speeds. Similarly the tail rotor often goes off and it becomes very difficult to control the longitudinal orientation since the rotating blades up top produces torque tending to rotate the helicopter body in the opposite direction.

I am sure you know much more about this business, me having never flown a rotory wing craft.

 

[Always Neutral]

Still not confirmed that it was shot down...

I will believe MuradK's angry tone, than any PAF release. After all most of the boys flying today are his kiddos.

BTW MI 17 is twin engine and very reliable and hence has to be really badly maintained to crash. I could be wrong also.

Since you are a probably a PONGO so i cant debate Helo's with you.

Regards

 

[Muradk]

Dear All,

I think MuradK, by his tone has summed it all. The Helo was shot down ?

MuradK, since like all ex-servicemen who feel ur pain for the dead can u suggest if there was someting which could have been done to avoid this ?

I have heard that the Mi 17 of the PAF donot have a good anti missile decoy system and the same was in the pipeline from sweden but was delayed by the MOD Civvies ?

Regards

To tell you the truth I will have to ask my younger brother he is the boss of Army Aviation, But in now a days they should have that tech what I was told they rotor was blown away. You can take a rotor out by small fire , AK-47 or RPG. Looks like that bastard was sitting just to take the heli out.
Why I am angry memories my friend it was so hard for me to tell a wife of my course mate that your husband died and that way not all of it, She wanted to know how he die how could I explain
May God Bless there Souls.
I am in touch with the QNG in GHQ to get the names and addresses of the people died. I will die of hunger but will not let them suffer.

 

[EyelessInGaza]

RIP.

This is the hard way, right here. Hopefully these soldier's sacrifices will not be forgotten, but I lost confidence in the 'gratitude' of governments towards their armed forces a long time ago.

 

[Xeric]

I will believe MuradK's angry tone, than any PAF release. After all most of the boys flying today are his kiddos.

BTW MI 17 is twin engine and very reliable and hence has to be really badly maintained to crash. I could be wrong also.

Since you are a probably a PONGO so i cant debate Helo's with you.

Regards

Name calling hmmmm... i like that!

Anywaz , for your thick head info the heli belonged to the Army Aviation NOT to PAF. You dont even know what's gong on and you have the guts to counter MPs. How lame!

 

[Conscientious objector]

They should send atleast 2 or 3 Sqd of A-5, F-7 and Mirages and blow that area up and then say now do it.

So you are advocating collective punishment of all that live within that area?

You would like to see innocent men women and children blown to smithereens just to satisfy your blood lust and exact revenge on civilians who had nothing to do with what happened. Very brave very brave indeed