Mi-17 down, 26 troops martyred

[Xeric]

So you are advocating collective punishment of all that live within that area?

You would like to see innocent men women and children blown to smithereens just to satisfy your blood lust and exact revenge on civilians who had nothing to do with what happened. Very brave very brave indeed

Sir which 'civilians' are you talking about? They already had left dude! The only living beings in that area today the terrorists, nothings else, now i am talking about the s[ace were the ops are being conducted not the Miranshah city itself!

 

[Conscientious objector]

Sir which 'civilians' are you talking about? They already had left dude! The only living beings in that area today the terrorists, nothings else, now i am talking about the s[ace were the ops are being conducted not the Miranshah city itself!

This incident took place just 12 miles from Peshawar, I find it hard to believe that there are no civilians living in the near vicinity.

 

[Always Neutral]

Name calling hmmmm... i like that!

Anywaz , for your thick head info the heli belonged to the Army Aviation NOT to PAF. You dont even know what's gong on and you have the guts to counter MPs. How lame!

Btw in UK we call Army chopper pilots as pongo monkeys.

If it was the AAC (Army Aviation Corp) then its 50/50 of anything as most army pilots have a thin line between gungho and over confidence. (they mean the samething)

BTW I don't think MuradK would be so diplomatic if I was wrong.

What i have heard that it was a delibrate but lucky shot on the tailroter and about 35 people died and the COI results will never be released as it would make most people scared to get into a MI 17 as its chaff system and AA missile def. system is basic.

Regards

 

[HAIDER]

Dedicated to fallen soldier in the line of duty..(expression from World war I British soldier)

When the fighting was at its fiercest
And everything looked black
This was the promise that cheered us on
'You'll get your old job back!'

We were not professional soldiers
Fighting was not our game
We were only peaceful citizens
Who fought hard just the same

We sacrificed our wives and kids
And homes to do our bit
But now the door is closed to us
It seems hard, we admit

For I can't get the old job
And can't get a new
Can't carry on as I used to do
I look around me, and what do I see?

Thousands and thousands of fellows
A lot worse off than me
In Piccadilly, friends pass me by
I'm absolutely stranded in the Strand
And I confess I was contented, more or less
When I was stony broke in No Man's Land

 

[brilTek]

I came across ABC News report on this.

Heli crashed due to technical fault

A Pakistani military helicopter has crashed in the north-west of the country killing all 26 security personnel on board, officials said, ahead of a planned army offensive against a Taliban militant chief.

"An MI-17 helicopter crashed due to technical fault," a military official who declined to be identified said, adding that 26 security personnel had been killed.


The helicopter crashed because of a technical fault about 20 kilometres from the city of Peshawar on the mountainous border of the Orakzai and Khyber ethnic Pashtun tribal regions, the official said

Read full article here.

 

[TOPGUN]

Sad inded but this happens in battle my heart goes to the familes GOD bless Pakistan.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

It is not for me to know who is right as I never met Allah and nor do I wish to.

BM says he is following the path of Allah while killing PA soldiers.

PA say they are following the path of Allah while killing TTP.

So how do you know who is right till u meet allah if he exists ?

Regards

Don't equivocate between the Taliban and the GoP/Pakistan Army.

I have had it with dickheads like you who seem to think that snide comments about the fact that a murderous barbaric horde, with no qualms about cutting the throats of innocent children, are in any way to comparable to those fighting against such barbarity and for the rule of law and the writ of the state, just because both claim to worship 'Allah'.

That too on a thread mourning the loss of dozens of brave soldiers.

Chill out for a month and spew your poison and anti-Pakistan hatred elsewhere.

 

[Jabar 1]

So you are advocating collective punishment of all that live within that area?

You would like to see innocent men women and children blown to smithereens just to satisfy your blood lust and exact revenge on civilians who had nothing to do with what happened. Very brave very brave indeed

First of all it pisses me off when GOP lies, Let the people know what is happening why hide the truth is a war we are fighting there will be casualties, Let Pakistan know 26 families are crying for their loved ones.

Now lets come to Mr Objector.Dude you don't even know Sir Muradk and you are saying TO SATISFY YOUR BLOOD LUST, have you lost your mind, A soldier's blood will boil when he finds out that another soldier died in a cause which is totally Fu----up. When you are dealing with extremist who are killing Pakistani in the name of Islam yes in that case you take drastic measures so it wount be repeated.

 

[TaimiKhan]

AoA Guys,

Well its very very sad to hear such a huge loss of life. I was just checking out the Dawn News website and they are quoting 41 soldiers martyred in the chopper crash, mixture of FC & PA soldiers, including 4 crew members.

I hope the martyrdom of all the brave soldiers 7 civilians doesn't go in waste and bring peace to Pakistan. Ameen.

May Allah give peace to the souls & families of these soldiers.

 

[Xeric]

Any confirmations that it was shot down?

The GoP and the military shouldnt at tall hide facts this time, there is no reason or i must say no logic behind it. It's a war going on and casualties are bound to happen. May it be through enemy action or tech faults. In any case the perpetrators of the crash must not be spared i.e. whether they are the terrorist or the people within the armed forces.

 

[XYON]

Pakistani Mi-17's are getting to be notoriously dubious flying machines. Lest we forget about a year and a half ago when another Army Aviation Mi-17 crashed due to the tail rotor coming off and the aircraft going into an uncontrollable spin only to hit the ground so hard that it killed everyone abroad.

Personally I believe that the Taliban are not capable of taking out a helicopter, luck shots notwithstanding. Having said that this seems to be more of an accident than it does a shooting down. May Allah grant eternal heaven to the deceased Shaheeds and grant their families patience in time to bear this loss.

 

[Shiji]

So much controversy on an aircraft crash? I am really sad to see that even the Army supporters in this forum don't believe in what the Army has said.
The Taliban are stupid and ignorant, remember the Mi-17 that crashed in the mountains in Balakot (My neighbor was the pilot)? Even then Taliban claimed that it was shot by them. Baitullah Mehsud claimed that the Chinese shooter that attacked a building in New York/Manhattan was sent by him.
If you believe in Taliban then you have to Read this (This was heard by my mom on the radio while on her visit to her family in Swat).
Pushto "Khalaq waye cha mang da khalqo maraee wala kat kao, no da kho da Nabi (SAW) sunnat woo, Nabi ba da dushmanano marae kat kawala. Cha agha pa stara sho no churee baye Sahbyan la war ko"
Urdu: "Loog hum say puchta heen keh hum loogon ka galay kyon katta heen, to is ka jawab yeh hay kah yeh Nabi (SAW) ke sunnat hay, Nabi dushmano ka galay katta or jub thak jate to churee Sahabah ko da detay"
English "People ask us why we behead people, well let me answer this that it is the Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW), The Prophet used to behead his enemies and when he was tired he gave the sword to the Sahabas"
Now if you believe in Taliban's statements then you mush belive in the one that i have just posted.

 

[x_man]

Very tragic ...God bless all who were onboard. Amen.

Does anyone know the names of the flight crew ?

 

[Xeric]

Very tragic ...God bless all who were onboard. Amen.

Does anyone know the names of the flight crew ?

The name of the pilot is .....oooooo just was going to ruin everything. No names now sir. The talibans have claimed that they have a pilot in their custody, dont want to give out the names yet for the obvious reasons. And i suggest the same to you if you find out the names. i dont want the terrorists to consolidate their claims by telling the name of a pilot who actually embraced shaddat and whom they claim to be capturing!!

Let the ISPR come out with names. i got them from a fellow aviator.

 

[Xeric]

Pakistani airstrikes kill at least 12 militants

http://www.defence.pk/forums/416284-post1.html

May be Sir Murad's wish is coming true.