Mechanised Divisions Pakistan Army

[dexter]

What exactly are you referring to?

Don't tell me that you have never seen that masterpiece XD

 

[PanzerKiel]

Don't tell me that you have never seen that masterpiece XD

First time I'm hearing about Wall E. Never heard of it before.

 

[HRK]

First time I'm hearing about Wall E. Never heard of it before.

its a cartoon movie but with a good story line which even grown up men can enjoy .... wase hai tu bachoo ki tu simple si hai but it story has its own touch of innocence, dedication with the objective and struggle.

A nice movies to watch with your little children.

 

[Reichmarshal]

First time I'm hearing about Wall E. Never heard of it before.

Look.like Panzerkel has grown up.kids, unlike us lot who have young children n get to watch all sort of cartoons, while in their company.

 

[Signalian]

Infantry School usually has two courses per year for ATGM firing training in which some 200 troops are trained in total. Troops are trained on TOW and Baktar Shikan systems. Training is conducted to target both moving and stationary objects. The engagement ranges are usually around 2300 m or 2500 m.

 

[Raja Porus]

Infantry School usually has two courses per year for ATGM firing training in which some 200 troops are trained in total. Troops are trained on TOW and Baktar Shikan systems. Training is conducted to target both moving and stationary objects. The engagement ranges are usually around 2300 m or 2500 m.

Are the officers of MIB trained only in Infantry school like SIB or undergo basic training (as do other arms) and then move on to Armour/mechanised school?

 

[Signalian]

Are the officers of MIB trained only in Infantry school like SIB or undergo basic training (as do other arms) and then move on to Armour/mechanised school?

Every infantry officer is trained in Infantry School (YO's at least) and then i think they proceed to Nowshera. Officers from regular infantry battalions are trained in ATGM course also.

 

[Signalian]

First time I'm hearing about Wall E. Never heard of it before.

Think of it as a small UGV. A modern cousin of WW2 German Goliath.

 

[Raja Porus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457611330865836035

 

[Signalian]

Yes.

For your second question, several Mech Divs have come up recently.

Maybe we live to see the day when an IFV which is also an APC forms the backbone of Mech Divs. Something like BMP-3 or CV-90 or Tulpar.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Maybe we live to see the day when an IFV which is also an APC forms the backbone of Mech Divs. Something like BMP-3 or CV-90 or Tulpar.

In the new HIT Vid , a second Hull of Viper IFV was seen being built

 

[Signalian]

In the new HIT Vid , a second Hull of Viper IFV was seen being built

BMP3 holds a bit more firepower through that 100 mm cannon. Previously LATs had RR which also gave direct fire through 106 mm. Now LATs and HATs are equipped with ATGM, the cannon is gone. Viper has 25mm or 20mm with ATGM. It becomes a Cannon Vs Missile debate now.

 

[farooqbhai007]

BMP3 holds a bit more firepower through that 100 mm cannon. Previously LATs had RR which also gave direct fire through 106 mm. Now LATs and HATs are equipped with ATGM, the cannon is gone. Viper has 25mm or 20mm with ATGM. It becomes a Cannon Vs Missile debate now.

Viper has 30 mm plus two konkurs

 

[Signalian]

Viper has 30 mm plus two konkurs

Yes boss, its still not close to 100 mm or 106 mm. BMP-3 has seen combat, Viper IFV may or may not have a future. M-113 is not built for direct combat/contact although a few variants were up gunned and up armored. Bradley faced T-72s and used ATGM. M-901 and Maaz will face T-90s using ATGMs from camouflaged positions, both don't have heavy caliber cannons, just 12.7mm.

Now BMP-3 on the other hand has 100mm, 30mm, ATGM, 7.62mm and firing ports for troops, smoke dispensers for concealment and can carry troops. A bit of an over kill. If Viper is put in combat, its 30mm cannon can pose a serious threat to BMP-2 and other lightly armored vehicles, but M-901 and Maaz will be using ATGMs against BMP-2. That 12.7mm might damage at a closer range or from rear but maneuvering for the kill might be risky. Losing a troop transport is another risk. BMP-3 itself carries a lot of ammo, a single hit in ammo compartment will roast everyone sitting in it. Its armor is weak at certain places but it carries a strong punch.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Yes boss, its still not close to 100 mm or 106 mm. BMP-3 has seen combat, Viper IFV may or may not have a future. M-113 is not built for direct combat/contact although a few variants were up gunned and up armored. Bradley faced T-72s and used ATGM. M-901 and Maaz will face T-90s using ATGMs from camouflaged positions, both don't have heavy caliber cannons, just 12.7mm.

Now BMP-3 on the other hand has 100mm, 30mm, ATGM, 7.62mm and firing ports for troops, smoke dispensers for concealment and can carry troops. A bit of an over kill. If Viper is put in combat, its 30mm cannon can pose a serious threat to BMP-2 and other lightly armored vehicles, but M-901 and Maaz will be using ATGMs against BMP-2. That 12.7mm might damage at a closer range or from rear but maneuvering for the kill might be risky. Losing a troop transport is another risk. BMP-3 itself carries a lot of ammo, a single hit in ammo compartment will roast everyone sitting in it. Its armor is weak at certain places but it carries a strong punch.

I am not saying BMP3 is bad , I was just saying that HIT was making a 2nd viper , perhaps a new demonstrator

BMP3 over all itself is a bit outdated , but the turret is exceptionally good , A better option for PA would be similar to what the Emiratis did , placing bmp3 turret onto other better protected chassis , UAE took Rabdan 8x8 , Patria AMV , Al wahash 8x8 etc and had BMP3 turrets fitted onto them ,
The rabdan ( Emirati produced Otokar arma ) with BMP3 turret was then inducted into service