Maulana Fazl defends Afghan Taliban’s flags in Azadi March

[Mentee]

The ones who are quiet are equally responsible for this situation..

Remember how all of us were exposing saffron clad mobs in India.. and how we were exposing Indian atrocities in occupied Kashmir.. This mal'oon molbi chose Kashmir day as his protest.. We can't say that he didn't know about the date.. He was FFS chairman of Kashmir committee for years.. and he chose the exact date when we were planning to deliver another diplomatic blow to India.. This molbi has brought us at the same level as of RSS and world doesn't ignore much....

In these times, why good ulema are keeping quiet? There could be two reasons, either they have no interest in Kashmiri struggle, or they are part of this madness.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Having peace talks with Taliban in regard to Afghanistan and then raising Taliban flags in public protest in Pakistan, are two different things that doesn't require highly intellectual capacity to understand. However, political grudge & enmity can takeover sanity & brain of any person. Taliban delegation came here as a guest to talks and these flags are actually for sending a message that look, Taliban are here in Pakistan roaming around and even protest against sitting government. Look, Pakistan is having Taliban contrary to our efforts that they belong to Afghanistan and we have no relationship except that facilitating talks based upon past. Look FATF, India was right because here is Taliban present right in Islamabad. And in counter productive attempt; any action by the state will be then utilized by these funded agents as Look Taliban! Pakistan doesn't like your flag and even arrested people so you should attack them as well. There are more of gains for these thugs than any benefit for the State.

This is more than just losing sanity. This is indeed open enmity with Pakistan.

 

[The Eagle]

In these times, why good ulema are keeping quiet? There could be two reasons, either they have no interest in Kashmiri struggle, or they are part of this madness.

May be they opposed him therefore, did not join and that is at-least good of their Iman/Faith. They are quiet but did not join the ranks of JUI-F which is not sinner to me. However, I don't see anyone of them against Kashmir at all. May be I missed your point. All I am saying is that, the real people are not part of this circus and they have plausible reasons. Furthermore, there is less projection/coverage of them by media deliberately for which, I don't hold them responsible as such.

 

[PakSword]

Read my response in context. Someone tried to justify PTI excuse by saying that India will now use it against Pakistan in FATF, and that this proves Molana is against Pakistan. So I simply replied: then what does that make Hafiz Saeed.

Simple. To me it seems nowadays PTI fans are also making u turns like their party.

One moment in love with Afghan Taliban flag, next moment hating it.

O bhai, no one is hating the flag.. or Afghan Taliban.. They could prove to be our allies in the long run.. but that doesn't give them the right to involve themselves in Pakistani politics..

Khair, I am sure these flags are used deliberately here.. and Afghan talibs are definitely not involved.. We will have to wait to see real motive of this action by maloon.

 

[The Eagle]

All molvis and imams have their sects to protect. Little have any loyalty to Pakistan.

How many molvis were in Pakistan movement ?
How many molvis were in making of nuclear bomb ?
How many molvis are actually doing something for the economy except asking for fitra , charity , sadaqah and zakat ?

I agree if you mean by these fake Molvis.

 

[Lincoln]

All molvis and imams have their sects to protect. Little have any loyalty to Pakistan.

How many molvis were in Pakistan movement ?
How many molvis were in making of nuclear bomb ?
How many molvis are actually doing something for the economy except asking for fitra , charity , sadaqah and zakat ?

How many shopkeepers were involved in Pakistan movement core.
How many shopkeepers were in making of nuclear bomb.
How many shopkeepers are actually doing something for the economy except selling their own goods and making profits while evading tax.

FFS, they're molvis, its not their job to be involved in this kind of stuff. Best they do what they are ought to, invite people to Islam and preach Islam, specially to people like you who think killing children for National interest is justified.

 

[PakSword]

May be they opposed him therefore, did not join and that is at-least good of their Iman/Faith. They are quiet but did not join the ranks of JUI-F which is not sinner to me. However, I don't see anyone of them against Kashmir at all. May be I missed your point. All I am saying is that, the real people are not part of this circus and they have plausible reasons. Furthermore, there is less projection/coverage of them by media deliberately for which, I don't hold them responsible as such.

You have probably heard about a riwayah that stopping fitnah by physical force is the highest level of Iman, then comes by pen, and then the least level is when someone in his heart dislikes fitnah..

As the ulema, the guides of common people, they were expected to at least use their pen.. but most of them don't care. However, when it comes to Kashmir, Darul Uloom deoband in India takes side of Indian government.

It seems Indian ulema do not prefer sitting quiet.. only ours do.

Anyway, I am waiting for this drama to end and then will see how many came forward..

 

[The Eagle]

Darul Uloom deoband

I don't include them. You are right about them. My opinion was about the Ulema that doesn't affiliate them with any group as such.

 

[pakpride00090]

You have probably heard about a riwayah that stopping fitnah by physical force is the highest level of Iman, then comes by pen, and then the least level is when someone in his heart dislikes fitnah..

As the ulema, the guides of common people, they were expected to at least use their pen.. but most of them don't care. However, when it comes to Kashmir, Darul Uloom deoband in India takes side of Indian government.

It seems Indian ulema do not prefer sitting quiet.. only ours do.

Anyway, I am waiting for this drama to end and then will see how many came forward..

I don't include them. You are right about them. My opinion was about the Ulema that doesn't affiliate them with any group as such.

If you have read the news.. Pro-Government marches were announced by Anti-deobandi , Barelvi groups.

How many shopkeepers were involved in Pakistan movement core.
How many shopkeepers were in making of nuclear bomb.
How many shopkeepers are actually doing something for the economy except selling their own goods and making profits while evading tax.

FFS, they're molvis, its not their job to be involved in this kind of stuff. Best they do what they are ought to, invite people to Islam and preach Islam, specially to people like you who think killing children for National interest is justified.

If that is the case then why they are involved in politics and having mob parties in Islamabad ?

 

[PakSword]

If you have read the news.. Pro-Government marches were announced by Anti-deobandi , Barelvi groups.

Bhai, don't follow any group.. Last year, Molvi gali was speaking against the state in the same manner as Fazlu is speaking today..

These sects and schools of thought will take us to Jahannum I am sure..

Read books of everyone critically.. Allah has given you intelligence, you can easily decide who is right, and you are free to follow him..

There could be cases where you might agree with Imam Malik's justification in one matter, and Imam Abu Hanifa's explanation in another....

So keep your mind open.. You may find good Aalims in Barelvis, and good ones in Deobandis.. and maybe good ones in Shaf'is or Hanblis.. don't make it obligatory on you to follow only one entirely..

 

[AZ1]

this is not true.

FATF has nothing to do with politics but financial transparency which can be interpreted as losing sovereignty as well in political quarters in Pakistan.

However if mainstream political parties keep ending up in terror list, it may come in play.

Tell this to India when they present this to FATF that look donations goes here.

Or start preparing a blame to put on IK when this thing happens.

 

[pakpride00090]

Bhai, don't follow any group.. Last year, Molvi gali was speaking against the state in the same manner as Fazlu is speaking today..

These sects and schools of thought will take us to Jahannum I am sure..

Read books of everyone critically.. Allah has given you intelligence, you can easily decide who is right, and you are free to follow him..

There could be cases where you might agree with Imam Malik's justification in one matter, and Imam Abu Hanifa's explanation in another....

So keep your mind open.. You may find good Aalims in Barelvis, and good ones in Deobandis.. and maybe good ones in Shaf'is or Hanblis.. don't make it obligatory on you to follow only one entirely..

You are right. I don't have special love for brillos as well. I saw what they did with Mumtaz Qadri and TLP marches , not to mention their biddats.

It is just that state should reign in these madrassas..Only in Pakistan, every Tom , Dick and Harry becomes a molvi and opens his madrassa and mosque and then start preaching his sect.

 

[maximuswarrior]

You are right. I don't have special love for brillos as well. I saw what they did with Mumtaz Qadri and TLP marches , not to mention their biddats.

It is just that state should reign in these madrassas..Only in Pakistan, every Tom , Dick and Harry becomes a molvi and opens his madrassa and mosque and then start preaching his sect.

This applies to every Tom, Dick and Harry in Pakistan. Mullahs have the freedom to open their madrassas. Libtards have the freedom to run their NGOs. Both are scumbags.

Yet some people keep crying lack of freedom.

 

[The Eagle]

The Taliban Flags are fake (for many descriptions), in-fact printed in JUI-F's own printing press and hopefully, will be exposed soon.

 

[pakpride00090]

This applies to every Tom, Dick and Harry in Pakistan. Mullahs have the freedom to open their madrassas. Libtards have the freedom to run their NGOs. Both are scumbags.

Yet some people keep crying lack of freedom.

Only in Pakistan you can break every law in the book but yet shout " no freedom " , " no freedom "