Mass demonstrations shake Kiev as Ukrainians call for revolution

[rmi5]

@rmi5
What are you talking about?
You are not Slav,and you dont know our problems,we are like Arabs,have our problems and try to overcome them?No offense.

FACT : Ukraine would lose 20 billion annualy if they refuse Russia and get only 7 billion in six years from EU.

yeah, I understood it based on the racism which was in your comment.
BTW, do you know how much they will earn by joining EU?

 

[rmi5]

Why racism?
Slavs are group of people like Arabs.

Slavs are splitted in countries like Arab world is splitted.

Today US want to create crisis in Ukraine like Syria crisis.

Arabs are similiar to Slavs that is all.

Racism?I am far away of racism basics....far far away.

The approach that forbids others to express their opinions regarding some country or region because they are not from the same ethnicity as you, has a hidden racism in it.

 

[DejanSRB]

I didnt forbbiden that.Speak whatever you want.
I just want to say that you dont know things like I know becouse I live here in Slavic country and know our mentality.
It is like I speak about US state you live or Iran where are you from.You know things better and I just reading things from newspapers.

 

[rmi5]

Guys, @MarkusS @DejanSRB
Lets chill out. Thanks

 

[victor07]

That's what I meant. Weapon trade has been more related to policies rather than technologies used, quality, or ...

1. It is practically impossible to deceive military because they are very technically literate people and their lifes and fulfilment of a mission depends on the characteristics of weapons. Integrated circuits, GPS, internet, radars, all this and many other things were developed first for military purposes.
2. In reality there is a very small difference between hi-tech military and hi-tech civil products. Both define national security and national pride. Both are extremely expencive in development and production. Both significantly push science and a great bunch of technologies. Both need significant development of infrastructure. Sale of both is closely associated with the policy. In practice both define policy. Profit from the sale of both may be not evident. Examples: just compare a spacecraft and a fighter jet with all armament.
There is a kind of products that uses already developed technologies (initially intended for hi-tech military and civil) for less expencive civil or military products. For example: i-phone and Kalashnikov AK. Both are cheap, both are easy to sell. Both are in great demand in the world. Profit from the sale of both is huge.
The success of a nation is in ability to adapt the bunch of technologies from hi-tech products in that simple cheap products. Successful adaptation brings to the nation a lot of money, which then can be used for development of the next generation products.
The problem with the USSR is that it was not successful in this adaptation for the following reasons: ban of small and medium businesses, sometimes paranoid level of secrecy. That is all.
From the Russian point of view Ukraine still now has all infrastructure to continue developing of hi-tech products.
Let's see what was and is Ukraine from Russian point of view.
Kuznetsov class

Slava class

Odissey platform.

An-70

An-124

And what is suggested to this country by Europe? As our friend from Romania said: "cheap labour".
So in practice the current choice for Ukraine may be expressed with the following picture. To the right is Russia, to the left is Europe. Exactly as on geographic map.

 

[vostok]

1. It is practically impossible to deceive military because they are very technically literate people and their lifes and fulfilment of a mission depends on the characteristics of weapons. Integrated circuits, GPS, internet, radars, all this and many other things were developed first for military purposes.
2. In reality there is a very small difference between hi-tech military and hi-tech civil products. Both define national security and national pride. Both are extremely expencive in development and production. Both significantly push science and a great bunch of technologies. Both need significant development of infrastructure. Sale of both is closely associated with the policy. In practice both define policy. Profit from the sale of both may be not evident. Examples: just compare a spacecraft and a fighter jet with all armament.
There is a kind of products that uses already developed technologies (initially intended for hi-tech military and civil) for less expencive civil or military products. For example: i-phone and Kalashnikov AK. Both are cheap, both are easy to sell. Both are in great demand in the world. Profit from the sale of both is huge.
The success of a nation is in ability to adapt the bunch of technologies from hi-tech products in that simple cheap products. Successful adaptation brings to the nation a lot of money, which then can be used for development of the next generation products.
The problem with the USSR is that it was not successful in this adaptation for the following reasons: ban of small and medium businesses, sometimes paranoid level of secrecy. That is all.
From the Russian point of view Ukraine still now has all infrastructure to continue developing of hi-tech products.
Let's see what was and is Ukraine from Russian point of view.
Kuznetsov class

Slava class

Odissey platform.

An-70

An-124

And what is suggested to this country by Europe? As our friend from Romania said: "cheap labour".
So in practice the current choice for Ukraine may be expressed with the following picture. To the right is Russia, to the left is Europe. Exactly as on geographic map.

You forgot the RS-20 Voivod (Satan).

They also developed and built in the Ukraine.

 

[victor07]

You forgot the RS-20 Voivod (Satan).

They also developed and built in the Ukraine.

Let's be more peaceful.
Zenit (Ukrainian: Зеніт, Russian: Зени́т; meaning Zenith) is a family of space launch vehicles designed by the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau in Dnepropetrovsk.

 

[T-123456]

No. North Korea expelled the Soviet troops and tore economic ties with the Soviet Union, trying to build socialism in own way.
I did not say that in the GDR lived more prosperous than in FRG. But there were some pluses.
Look, capitalists less reminding people in this world like those who care about neighbors. They destroy the industry in Eastern Europe to gain new markets and cheap labor. That's it. The rest - cheap propaganda.


Everybody using doping. This does not cancel the fact that in East Germany was a world-class sporting school, able to compete with the U.S. and the USSR.

They were world class because they used anabolic steroides.
You should check this out.
Doping in East Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[T-123456]

You had forgotten this one,

 

[vostok]

They were world class because they used anabolic steroides.
You should check this out.
Doping in East Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is one of the black myths about socialist countries.
East Germans used no more dope than Americans, Italians, Austrians, Russian or any other nation.
By the way - the first who applied doping were Americans.

 

[T-123456]

This is one of the black myths about socialist countries.
East Germans used no more dope than Americans, Italians, Austrians, Russian or any other nation.
By the way - the first who applied doping were Americans.

Yes but the DDR perfected it.
Dialogues should lead to compromise.
Why all East Germans wanted to flee from Paradise?
Why did they build the wall?
Just admit,it was a bs regime.

 

[vostok]

Yes but the DDR perfected it.
Dialogues should lead to compromise.
Why all East Germans wanted to flee from Paradise?
Why did they build the wall?
Just admit,it was a bs regime.

I very much doubt that all East Germans wanted to the West t. I am sure that now many people feel sorry about socialism.
Great sport - competition of trainers, selectionists and pharmacists. East Germans were good, so little GDR was more successful than FRG and China, third only after to the Soviet Union and the United States.

 

[vostok]

That so did our grandfathers with first euro-integrators (Nazis) in 1946. Kiev.

 

[rmi5]

That so did our grandfathers with first euro-integrators (Nazis) in 1946. Kiev.

Are you really proud of killing enemy's soldiers after finishing the war? It's so pathetic.

 

[rmi5]

What you expect. We germans killed more of their people than our country even had inhabitants. They were so weak they needed outside help to survive. So they need such things to push up themself. Thats what rodents do. You can see that behavior also at dsungarian dwarf hamsters.

some psychiatrists say that in many cases, the most brutal crimes are done by the most coward persons. It's not honorable to kill your captive, it is a sign of cowardness and lack of basic moral principles.

It's not the soldiers. This is the tip of the generals and the occupying power. They also carried our Motherland "Western European values." We do not need this thing, we more like our own, Orthodo[ Christian values. Our ancestors fought a thousand years with the Teutons, Poles, Swedes, Napoleon, Hitler and others in order that we may live free.

Anyway, sharing these pictures was not appropriate at all.