MARCH 15, 1971: Yahya arrives in Dhaka for 'negotiation'

[bluesky]

Yes another brain washed victim who equates khilafat andolon with , ottoman Khilafat .

There is something called TPO, meaning time, place and occasion. In 1919 there was no Arabic Khilafat, it went under the Othman/Ottoman (Osman) Turkey many Centuries before. So, the 1919 Khilafat Movement in Bengal was to support/re-establish the Turkish Khilafat. This is very basic point of history. Muslims in the then India/Bengal used to wear Turkic caps (Topi) to show their solidarity, which continued during Pakistan Movement and also after 1947. It was symbolic of supporting Pan-Islamism.

 

[Centaur]

There is something called TPO, meaning time, place and occasion. In 1919 there was no Arabic Khilafat, it went under the Othman (Osman) Turkey many Centuries before. So, the 1919 Khilafat Movement in Bengal was to support/re-establish the Turkish Khilafat. This is very basic point of history. Muslims in the then India/Bengal used to wear Turkic caps (Topi) to show their solidarity, which continued during Pakistan Movement and also after 1947. It was symbolic of supporting Pan-Islamism.

I was not speaking for khelafat andolon , of Indian sub Continent. Ottomans are not spoiled blood ( দুষিত রক্ত) like indian subcontinent folks who doesn't have minimal tolerance to others .
I was talking about ottomans who were much more tolerant than indian sub Continent.
So I don't care about Indian khelafat . I spoke for Ottomans .
And I know very well that ottomans are not Arabs and also know when and where Ottoman khilafat started.

PS : Bengali Muslims once advocated for Taliban and Al Qaeda simply because hujuge Bengal thought that they are following real Islam . On the other hand ottoman caliphs exceuted wahabi leaders , probably you know that right ?
So what make you think that wearing ottoman vostuco make them ottoman ? Do not equate bujuge bangal with those great caliphs .
Those BD sycophants who shamelessly spoke for Taliban by saying "আমরা হচ্ছি তালেবান , বাংলা হবে আফগান" , do not practice Islam in real life you know this .
And those a.s.s holes are used to live western life ,and spoke for the dark taliban era and now claim that they were misguided?
They are two quick to put blame on others you know this .
Peoples who are BNP deshi and awami deshi , you are trying to equate them with ottomans .
Yes those spoiled blood hujuge bengal weren't angel during british era .

 

[Mage]

Wow too much over react !


Yes surely every Muslim is mullah for such sweden expat seculars . I am not surprised at all


@Mage
Yes another brain washed victim who equates self claimed khilafat ( taliban type ) with , ottoman Khilafat .
Taliban mollah Umar with ottoman even rashidun caliphs .

Other than ranting , study the history of ottoman.
You don't have to study mullah link , study the Jewish link that is a lash on your butt.
This is Jewish website read it and learn how nice ottoman emperors were with common Jewish folks who were expelled during inquInquision by your European land Lords , for whom you day and night Write new hymns.
Surely muslims were dying to get rid off such ottomans , for free massonary kemal ataturk .


You dream will never come true , I can bet my head on it.
If anyone even closer to kemal in , he/she will be thrown out instantly from politics. You haven't see the real bangladesh from your Dreamland Sweden .
Most of peoples here will tolerate anti islamic propoganda under a limit .
Your secular bangladesh is just a day dream that will never come true . Islam will dominate here forever.
Just wait and see.

Turkish Muslims wanted Kemal and wanted to get rid of caliphate. Period. Kemal is considered as a national hero, there. I have no idea why subcontinent mullahs had to show support for Khilafat.

I didn't compare anyone with Taliban. I don't know where you get that. I wasn't accusing ottoman empire of mistreatment against Jews or anyone else.

Islam will dominate here forever.
Just wait and see.

I have no problem with that. But I do have problem if Mullah ideology prevails in Bangladesh. You know that ideology where you give a foo after reciting dua and someone gets cured from illness. The ideology where you just pray and expect god to do all the work for you.

 

[Saiful Islam]

loyal to Jinnah (freed them Indian clutches)

Sorry why would I be loyal to someone who is a Quranist? It's amongst similar reasons why I am not loyal to Shiekh Hasina or her Father.

I can't be loyal to someone who would administrate a country from thousands of miles away..

 

[Solomon2]

There was no Bangladesh on March 15, 1971. Learn the lesson and move on with your lives and do not waste time on what happened in 1971.

What was "the lesson", exactly?

 

[Centaur]

Turkish Muslims wanted Kemal and wanted to get rid of caliphate. Period. Kemal is considered as a national hero, there. I have no idea why subcontinent mullahs had to show support for Khilafat.

পিছলে যাবেন না জনাব , লাইনে থাকেন।
You have read all western history, never tried other sources .

I didn't compare anyone with Taliban. I don't know where you get that

Then stop saying that muslims want to get rid off ottoman Khilafat.
Ottoman Khilafat was not secular, but they were not islamist , so there is no way that muslims will try to get rid off .

 

[Mage]

পিছলে যাবেন না জনাব , লাইনে থাকেন।
You have read all westeew history, never tried other sources .

Then stop saying that muslims want to get ride of ottoman Khilafat.
Ottoman Khilafat was not secular, but they were not islamist , so there is no way that muslims will try to get rid off .

So how did the khilafat ended? Teach me true history. The sultans chose Kemal and willingly gave him the power, right?

 

[Centaur]

The sultans chose Kemal and willingly gave him the power, right?

Nah not that . No one do so . And I am not history teacher . Just try various books other than western sources . And also browse net , in those days learning from different sites isn't too hard .
But you don't pay attention other than established popular history written by winners , so I doubt anything will affect on you .
I can give you an input , read this . But that's not enough.
There are thousands of link against kemal the hypocrite who imposed azan in Turkish instead of arabic .
@Mage

 

[Saiful Islam]

Pakistanis

I don't really think so.

 

[El Sidd]

What was "the lesson", exactly?

Ethno fascism is a cancer

 

[Solomon2]

Ethno fascism is a cancer

And was that really a lesson the Bangladeshis had to learn as much as their W. Pakistani compatriots?

 

[El Sidd]

And was that really a lesson the Bangladeshis had to learn as much as their W. Pakistani compatriots?

No one learns any lessons in these parts. They simply delay the matter.

Bangladeshi are by default paranoid racists. Pakistanis however may have learned to not delay the matter so much that the enemy takes the course in their hands.

Honeywash tactics gone wrong i would say. Happens. Move on. Shows over. But these hilsa bandits are stuck in 71

 

[Centaur]

You know that ideology where you give a foo after reciting dua and someone gets cured from illness

This is types of folks are uneducated/ignorant fools. Even talibans didn't do that ( dua treatment) .
Yes dua is spirituality skeeking the help of Allah, but you must need dawa /medicine in order to be cured. So ignore them .

 

[Solomon2]

No one learns any lessons in these parts. They simply delay the matter.

I will take that as a statement of your expertise on Pakistan, but no further.

Bangladeshi are by default paranoid racists.

It took the Pakistani Army to create that "default" in 1971.

 

[24 Hours]

This is a matter of controversy. No one is bound to respect kamal .
Surely you will not agree with me I know. Still kemal was actually sycophant to west.
So if someone don't support kemal the hypocrite so became fanatic? You will lost your liberal ground if you prove yourself as the spoke person of kamal Ataturk. Westernized turkey is not necessarily good for man kind . Now turkey is doing much better under Mr erdogan, bad definitely he is opposite to kamal. Atleast turkey got some spine now under Mr erdogan so they are showing middle finger to USA and NATO.

What is this? Kemal is called the father of Turkey for a reason and he has a well deserved title of "Ataturk." Westernized Turkey under Ataturk had massive increase in literacy rates. His social reforms gave women better status. He was able to be build the foundations of a modern industrial base. Under him Turkey came out as a strong, independent republic. What has Erodogan done to surpass Ataturk in exactly? A westernized Turkey is great as it represented an ideal for developing nations to strive for. There were plenty of Muslims that saw him as a hero for his success in the Turkish war of independence. That is far more impressive than anything Erodgan has done in comparison. All these are proof that a Muslim country can undergo western and secular reforms.

Who cares about the Ottoman khilafat? Only a fool should, the years before WWI showed an empire in decline. They were called the sick man of Europe for a reason.