Many Haqqani Commanders Killed in NW OPS - Pak Army

[khujliwal]

As @Samandri posted, why are the names not being disclosed. Are there any sensitivity issues?

 

[Indian Patriot]

First of all this is not true this is bullshit! and 2ndly if so, then do you think that india dosn't use proxy groups against Pakistan? I don't know why some dumb indians think that this is one sided game, and infact every country use proxy for their rival even , Afghanistan and India are Providing safe heavens to TTP in Kunar and Nuristan.

Who is giving moral science lecture here? I am just mocking the stupidity of Pakistan not to properly plan and anticipate their moves. They hastily placed their money on Taliban and now they are spending more money and wasting more lives in fighting their own weapon. Did India ever have to fight the Mukti Bahini like you guys are fighting Taliban?

 

[Indian Patriot]

You bharatis must be the biggest simpletons in the history... always oversimplifying things to the extent that the original context is completely lost.

Yea. Keep things complicated, after all it is Pakistanis dying and Pakistani losing money not us bharatis. Your intelligence is for everybody to see.

 

[imran_punjabi]

Who is giving moral science lecture here? I am just mocking the stupidity of Pakistan not to properly plan and anticipate their moves. They hastily placed their money on Taliban and now they are spending more money and wasting more lives in fighting their own weapon. Did India ever have to fight the Mukti Bahini like you guys are fighting Taliban?

Again BS!

you didn't answer my question,i.e do you think this is one sided game? is there no role of india in afghanistan against Pakistan? I know you will not answer properly... And what about this picture baby

 

[SpArK]

Well done.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Again BS!

you didn't answer my question,i.e do you think this is one sided game? is there no role of india in afghanistan against Pakistan? I know you will not answer properly... And what about this picture baby

It is a one-sided game. The war is fought on Pakistani soil not Afghan.

There is a role of India against Pakistan and always will be. But unlike you Indians are not dumb enough to be attacked by their own weapons. Taliban was created by Pakistan yet they are killing only Pakistanis and not a single Indian.

The USA exploited Afghans to use them as a weapon against USSR. The Pakistanis being the dumb idiots jumped into the fray thinking they will make political gains. US won, Afghans won and Taliban was created by Pakistan and the rest is history.

 

[imran_punjabi]

It is a one-sided game. The war is fought on Pakistani soil not Afghan.

There is a role of India against Pakistan and always will be. But unlike you Indians are not dumb enough to be attacked by their own weapons. Taliban was created by Pakistan yet they are killing only Pakistanis and not a single Indian.

The USA exploited Afghans to use them as a weapon against USSR. The Pakistanis being the dumb idiots jumped into the fray thinking they will make political gains. US won, Afghans won and Taliban was created by Pakistan and the rest is history.

US won???? Lol their soldier who goes outside Kabul never returned

 

[Indian Patriot]

US won???? Lol their soldier who goes outside Kabul never returned

Maybe in Pakistani fantasy land such things happened. In reality US occupied Kabul, installed their government and their military is still based there.

 

[rockstar08]

its good as far as they are dead ....

 

[MastanKhan]

So what the Pentagon Report says about Pakistan is incorrect because the information came from afghan heroin dealers? Or is it because ISI remains one of the many foreign spy agencies with their fingers in the dusty pie called Afghanistan?

Sir,

Suddenly---your posts are not making any sense---. And why should isi not have its fingers in afg---the hotspot next door.

Please be clearer in what you want to say---.

 

[Hyperion]

We being?.......... Uncle Sam's poodle?

Right. We believe you, Sir.

 

[MastanKhan]

In case he's not aware, I would like to remind him of the LeT and JeM militants that are pushed across into Kashmir especially before winter sets in which is a proxy war being waged against India.

If not, what are they being employed for? Social service?

Here's proof...NDTV exclusive: First images of terrorists killed at LoC in Keran, Photo Gallery

Nuff said.

Sir,

There is no pushing of anyone into kashmir---the four layered razor sharp fence---the night vision---the motion detectors---the infra red sensors that have been deployed by india on the border----the only time there will be an incursion---only if the indian border forces would allow it.

But---if in truth---with all those barricades that you have installed and and all the money that you have spent on the sensors etc---and you still cannot stop them---then you got serious competency problems first of all---and secondly the dispute is so serious that the freedom fighters will do whatsoever to cross over.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@halupridol @Syed.Ali.Haider @A.M.

Tribal loyalties being paramount, the Haqqani network (native to Afghanistan) had to rely on the support of local tribes in FATA to operate, and the most significant support for the Haqqanis was provided by the Gul Bahadur faction of the Taliban in North Waziristan. While the PA did attempt multiple peace deals with the GB faction in the past, the reaction of GB to the launch of Zarb-e-Azb (he issued warnings to local residents against moving to government maintained IDP camps and demanded that locals relocate to Afghanistan instead), and this news from today clearly support the claims made by General Khattak in NW and Gen Anderson in Afghanistan.
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Hafiz Gul Bahadur’s aides among 34 militants killed in N Waziristan
By NASARUMINALLAH Published: November 17, 2014

... “Twenty-seven terrorists, including some of their important commanders and foreigners, were killed in precise aerial strikes in the Dattakhel area [on Sunday],” the military’s media wing, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), said in a statement. Tribal sources confirmed the fatalities, saying that close aides of militant commander Hafiz Gul Bahadur were also among them.

The air raid came hours after a deadly attack on the security forces in the Spaira Ghar area of Dattakhel, near the border with Afghanistan. Three troops – including a major and a JCO – were killed and 10 wounded in the gunfight triggered by the attack, security officials said. In the subsequent search operation, seven terrorists were also killed, they added. The injured servicemen were airlifted to military hospitals in Bannu and Miramshah garrisons where some of them were listed as critical.

Ahmadullah Ahmadi, the spokesman for the Hafiz Gul Bahadur-led Shura-i-Mujahideen North Waziristan, claimed responsibility for the deadly attack on the security forces in a phone call to the media.

He said the militants ambushed a security patrol in the Spaira Ghar area Saturday evening. A gunfight ensued that continued for around six hours, he said and claimed that they inflicted heavy casualties on the security forces. The claim, however, could not be verified independently as journalists are not allowed access to the region. The militants usually exaggerate the military casualties.

Dattakhel was the stronghold of Gul Bahadur, who used to be known as the host of the Haqqani Network, the deadliest of all Afghan Taliban factions. His group also had a strong presence in the mountainous Shawal area. Operation Zarb-e-Azb is indiscriminate as the chief military spokesman had said that Gul Bahadur and his men would not be spared.

Gul Bahadur had first warned the government against launching the operation. However, when the military offensive started, he and his fighters disappeared, triggering speculation that they have moved to their new sanctuaries across the border in Afghanistan. It was the first-ever media contact of Gul Bahadur’s spokesman since the launch of Operation Zarb-e-Azb on June 15. “In retaliation, we launched our resistance, codenamed Zarb-i-Momin four or five days back.

The fresh fighting came a day after General Officer Commanding Maj-Gen Zafar Ullah claimed that the security forces have cleared 2,708 square kilometres area, or around 90% of the agency. “As many as 1,198 militants were killed and 356 injured so far in the operation,” he told a select group of television journalists at Mirali, the main town of North Waziristan.

Around 600,000 tribesmen have been displaced from North Waziristan as a result of Operation Zarb-e-Azb who have been living in IDPs camps in Bannu and Peshawar and elsewhere in the country.

There is no indication regarding the timeframe for completion of the operation. During the recent corps commanders’ meeting, army chief General Raheel Sharif called for the early return of the internally displaced persons (IDPs) to their homes. However, given the destruction caused by the operation, it would take some time when Waziristan tribesmen would be able to resettle.
Published in The Express Tribune, November 17th, 2014.
Hafiz Gul Bahadur’s aides among 34 militants killed in N Waziristan – The Express Tribune

 

[janon]

And why should they cut ties with assets that have deniability ? We need to face the fact that if Pakistan and India ever get into a conflict situation Pakistan will have to fight an asymmetric war to counter India's edge in numbers and technology. And these mountain men are about as good as you can get when it comes to asymmetric warfare. We will eventually need them and don't forget that once all is said and done they are still our people.

To do assymetric war against India, they have to be physically present inside India. We have put every effort into making sure that your hardy mountain men will stay confined to your mountains. They cannot infiltrate in sufficient numbers to wage a succesful assymetric war. Of course, a handful could and do infiltrate now and then, and do a terror attack like 26/11. But with our electrified borders, and the most sophisticated border management system on earth, their activities will all be confined to within Pakistan.

 

[janon]

I strongly disagree - the Pakistani military has no need for "insurgents" in a conventional war with India. The economic damage caused by allowing a chaotic and lawless region to exist far exceeds that amount the Pakistani Army would have to spend to expand its size by another 50,000 soldiers, if you really think additional manpower is needed.

That is true, but why is it that Pak's army and the powers that be did not have the foresight to realize that, when they were busy raising "non state actors"?