Man fined, jailed over second marriage without first wife’s permission

[war&peace]

His law is followed everywhere.

We just follow his instructions more in detail.

Even in Texas and Bavaria it's still not a law to drink or eat pork.

Now you know who proposes pork beer test in other countries. The extremists.

I think you are being thick on purpose.

You are Amish

so now you are resorting to abusive word...really sad

 

[El Sidd]

I think you are being thick on purpose.


so now you are resorting to abusive word...really sad

Go have chicken parmesan

 

[war&peace]

Go have chicken parmesan

You yourself amish

 

[El Sidd]

You yourself amish

I am proud Amish in my own sense.

Just don't ask NSA lol

 

[Zarvan]

Perfectly stated, at the same times women tend to use that law against men !
Laws must be made by intelligent people, rather than by hypocrites.


Islamic ideology council need to be banned, dismantled.
Bunch of people dictating a state is a dangerous situation, a security risk.

No it should be made better and must be listened to not having them will for sure put state in a lot of danger

 

[El Sidd]

No it should be made better and must be listened to not having them will for sure put state in a lot of danger

State in danger?

Ye to feminism ki hudd hogai

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

You should try your luck once more.



How is it Haram... boogeyman?


No country should call it Islamic republic, that appears hypocrisy on national level when everyone in that country behave and talk like pagans.



How can a Mufti be any authority on Pakistani law?

Pakistani law is basically decided in parliament and there can be no discussions once its passed,.. its game over.
Only place you control, that laws passed in parliament are according to certain standards, is by setting pre-conditions of parliament candidates accordingly!

You should try your luck once more.



How is it Haram... boogeyman?


well if they are muslims and wants to implement islam then they sud call its state as islamic republic. Try is the only option we have and unfortunately now muslims dont try anymore from top to bottom we lie to each other we have no blessings till we change that and its starts from ourselves.

 

[PakSword]

Breaking the conditions of one's marriage agreement isn't Halal mufti sahib

I am not the one acting as a Mufti here..

by the way, anything that is not Islamic is wrong in the first place. We are saying that the law is not based on Islam in the first place. Just like entering in a Ribah based agreement is not Halal in the first place. But since Pakistani law accepts this agreement as valid, one has to pay interest on borrowing.

Try to understand rather than just debating..

 

[Well.wisher]

Zarvan has a mind of a 10 year old , no matter how much reason n justifications u give him , he'll never leave his point . He can't face the intellectual reasons nd be like ; No , you can't law of Islam . No you r wrong , no matter how much u say . U don't require permission , no no no !
Talking to him is like beating your head on a wall .
This sticker really suits his personality ; , stubborn beast .

Yes

Jahalat ka taaj apka

Hahah .,

 

[M. Sarmad]

I am not the one acting as a Mufti here..

by the way, anything that is not Islamic is wrong in the first place. We are saying that the law is not based on Islam in the first place. Just like entering in a Ribah based agreement is not Halal in the first place. But since Pakistani law accepts this agreement as valid, one has to pay interest on borrowing.

Try to understand rather than just debating..

Yes, you are ........

Agreed, anything that is not Islamic is wrong. But this law is not unIslamic. And this has been declared by none other than the only constitutionally recognized authority on Shariah matters; the Federal Shariat Court of Pakistan. It's not for the Mullahs, their followers or ordinary citizens to decide whether a law is Islamic or not.

As for Ribah, the same Federal Shariat Court gave the verdict (in Nov 1991) that the existing banking and finance practices in Pakistan and a number of fiscal laws were based on interest, hence unIslamic.

Try to understand rather than just debating.

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

The most fundamental pillar of this country's constitution states no law can be enacted in Pakistan that is against the tenets of Islam. This rule is surely against the teachings of Quran so this rule needs to be thrown in the garbage and no one should follow it because it is against the constitution of the land.

Its time you start waking up and realising that our country is far from the Islamic paradise it promised to be (not that I'm complaining). Banking. Equal rights to minorities and women (not exactly 100% equal but say maybe like 80%). None of the punishments according to the sharia are in effect. Theres literally hundreds of examples around you that scream unislamic. An Islamic state was just an ideology used to drive ourselves to independence. The idea died and now we are an Islamic Republic. You can get with the times or move to Syria.

 

[PakSword]

Yes, you are ........

Agreed, anything that is not Islamic is wrong. But this law is not unIslamic. And this has been declared by none other than the only constitutionally recognized authority on Shariah matters; the Federal Shariat Court of Pakistan. It's not for the Mullahs, their followers or ordinary citizens to decide whether a law is Islamic or not.

As for Ribah, the same Federal Shariat Court gave the verdict (in Nov 1991) that the existing banking and finance practices in Pakistan and a number of fiscal laws were based on interest, hence unIslamic.

Try to understand rather than just debating.

Man, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

THE PUNISHMENT for contracting a second marriage without permission of the first wife is not Islamic at all.

Islamic Ideology Council of Pakistan has already given their advice on this matter.

And as you have said, Federal Shariat Court has termed Ribah as unIslamic, but still it is not outlawed and you are held responsible for non-payment of Ribah, just like this, the punishment given in case the second marriage is contracted without permission is not based on Islam..

It is a good practice to inform first wife about the second marriage and I am fully in favor of it, but requirement of permission, without which punishment is given is something that is unfounded.

 

[war&peace]

Its time you start waking up and realising that our country is far from the Islamic paradise it promised to be (not that I'm complaining). Banking. Equal rights to minorities and women (not exactly 100% equal but say maybe like 80%). None of the punishments according to the sharia are in effect. Theres literally hundreds of examples around you that scream unislamic. An Islamic state was just an ideology used to drive ourselves to independence. The idea died and now we are an Islamic Republic. You can get with the times or move to Syria.

It will eventually reach its goals set prior to its independence. We will be here, you may need to move.

 

[PakSword]

Its time you start waking up and realising that our country is far from the Islamic paradise it promised to be (not that I'm complaining). Banking. Equal rights to minorities and women (not exactly 100% equal but say maybe like 80%). None of the punishments according to the sharia are in effect. Theres literally hundreds of examples around you that scream unislamic. An Islamic state was just an ideology used to drive ourselves to independence. The idea died and now we are an Islamic Republic. You can get with the times or move to Syria.

I fully agree. But some people still hold parliament supreme..

Zarvan has a mind of a 10 year old , no matter how much reason n justifications u give him , he'll never leave his point . He can't face the intellectual reasons nd be like ; No , you can't law of Islam . No you r wrong , no matter how much u say . U don't require permission , no no no !
Talking to him is like beating your head on a wall .
This sticker really suits his personality ; , stubborn beast .



Hahah .,

What's you opinion on the permission required and the punishment if one doesn't obtain it?

It will eventually reach its goals set prior to its independence. We will be here, you may need to move.

Yaar Boss, I am hopeless about it.. Do you think that the jahil people elected in the parliament will pass the Islamic laws?

If this happens, half of the parliament members will become tuntay (lose one hand) for repeated corruption and stealing the public money..

 

[M. Sarmad]

Man, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

THE PUNISHMENT for contracting a second marriage without permission of the first wife is not Islamic at all.

Islamic Ideology Council of Pakistan has already given their advice on this matter.

And as you have said, Federal Shariat Court has termed Ribah as unIslamic, but still it is not outlawed and you are held responsible for non-payment of Ribah, just like this, the punishment given in case the second marriage is contracted without permission is not based on Islam..

It is a good practice to inform first wife about the second marriage and I am fully in favor of it, but requirement of permission, without which punishment is given is something that is unfounded.

In Pakistan, the punishment imposed in accordance with the law for contracting a second marriage without permission from first wife is 100 % Islamic as Islam has made it obligatory for the Muslims to abide by the terms & conditions when they enter/sign an agreement/contract, including the marriage agreement. In Islam, marriage is not a sacrament but a civil agreement/contract and both parties are bound to follow the terms and conditions agreed upon between them at the time of signing the agreement, failing to do so makes them liable to punishment ...