Man fined, jailed over second marriage without first wife’s permission

[PakSword]

The punishment for contracting a second marriage without permission from first wife is 100 % Islamic as Islam has made it obligatory for the Muslims to abide by the terms & conditions when they enter/sign an agreement/contract,

Exactly.. I fully agree.. and that's why I say that the agreement/ contract is not based on Islamic teachings..

Sorry.. edit.. the law that is referred to in the marriage agreement is not Islamic..

 

[Well.wisher]

I fully agree. But some people still hold parliament supreme..



What's you opinion on the permission required and the punishment if one doesn't obtain it?

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There shouldn't be second marriages in this state , that's all . It's what I want .
No man should marry another woman in his married life , exceptions are if his first wife is dead .
Those who don't agree with this law , he should be fined and jailed . Marrying second woman should be held same as beating ones wife thus , punishment should be implemented .
With this law , man and his family will be cautious while marrying their off springs , let them marry of their choice . No forced marriages , nothing . Stop treating your children as cattles .

 

[war&peace]

Yaar Boss, I am hopeless about it.. Do you think that the jahil people elected in the parliament will pass the Islamic laws?

If this happens, half of the parliament members will become tuntay (lose one hand) for repeated corruption and stealing the public money..

Not from this parliament. This system has to go. It has not delivered and will be replaced by the proper system where meritocracy will rule supreme. It will take some time but within 10 years, you will see a drastic change. Terrorism is going down and with that libturds are getting defeated too as two are locked in symbiosis and they need each other for survival..libturds can't sell their crap if brainwashed islamic terrorist are not there. So when a terrorist gets killed along with him dies a libturd too and when a libturd dies a dozen of terrorists die with him too.

These exploiting corrupt crooks sitting in the parliament need to be in jails and they will be.

 

[PakSword]

There shouldn't be second marriages in this state , that's all . It's what I want .
No man should marry another woman in his married life , exceptions are if his first wife is dead .
Those who don't agree with this law , he should be fined and jailed . Marrying second woman should be held same as beating ones wife thus , punishment should be implemented .
With this law , man and his family will be cautious while marrying their off springs , let them marry of their choice . No forced marriages , nothing . Stop treating your children as cattles .

And what about Quran's permission?

I think we should be selective.. Let's take whatever suits us and throw (Astaghfirullah) what doesn't..

By the way, I am fine with this Qanoon if Pakistan stops pretending to be an Islamic Republic.. Both things can't go together.. what do you say?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Exactly.. I fully agree.. and that's why I say that the agreement/ contract is not based on Islamic teachings..

If you believe that this specific condition of the agreement is not based on Islam, you are free to make it clear to the other party and add it to the contract (before signing it) that your right to second marriage hasn't been curtailed in any way ... Law allows it, (of course only if the other party accepts it too) ... But if at the time of signing the agreement you accept the (pre)condition that you won't marry another woman without permission but then you marry another woman without approval, you break a law and you commit a sin ... And this makes you liable to punishment ... Hope that helps ?

 

[PakSword]

Not from this parliament. This system has to go. It has not delivered and will be replaced by the proper system where meritocracy will rule supreme. It will take some time but within 10 years, you will see a drastic change. Terrorism is going down and with that libturds are getting defeated too as two are locked in symbiosis and they need each other survival..libturds can't sell their crap if brainwashed islamic terrorist are not there. So when a terrorist gets killed along with him dies a libturd too and when a libturd dies dozen of terrorists die with him too.
These exploiting corrupt crooks sitting parliament need to be in jails.

I agree..

But I am now seeing increased role of reformists... who want reforms in established Islamic laws..

If you believe that this specific condition of the agreement is not based on Islam, you are free to make it clear to the other party and add it to the contract (before signing it) that your right to second marriage hasn't been curtailed in any way ... Law allows it, of course if the other party accepts it ... But if at the time of signing the agreement you accept the (pre)condition that you won't marry another woman without permission but then you marry another woman without approval, you break a law and you commit a sin ... And this makes you liable to punishment ... Hope that helps ?

Yes.... that's right..

I like this comment of yours..

But why make the laws which are not based on Islam in the first place?

If you believe that this specific condition of the agreement is not based on Islam, you are free to make it clear to the other party and add it to the contract (before signing it) that your right to second marriage hasn't been curtailed in any way ... Law allows it, of course if the other party accepts it ... But if at the time of signing the agreement you accept the (pre)condition that you won't marry another woman without permission but then you marry another woman without approval, you break a law and you commit a sin ... And this makes you liable to punishment ... Hope that helps ?

By the way, where in the marriage contract, this permission can be obtained?

 

[war&peace]

I agree..

But I am now seeing increased role of reformists... who want reforms in established Islamic laws..

These reformists are libturds and they are losing. They made some changes in the laws that slipped through below radars of the people of Pakistan and sell-out sarkari Mullahs like Tahir Ashrafi, Mufti Qavi, Javed Ghamdi put their stamps on it to continue enjoying the nonstop supply of foreign wine and libturd women. Pakistani people also need to be more active and alert and shouldn't be sleeping the whole time. We pay with blood when we as a nation fail to perform our duties as an Islamic society so reforms and purging are required on every level.

 

[M. Sarmad]

But why make the laws which are not based on Islam in the first place?

Well, that's just your personal opinion that this law is unIslamic . Federal Shariat Court has ruled otherwise ... This law is meant to protect the rights of women and to make sure that a man does "justice" to all wives in case he marries more than one, this law is there to make sure that the Quranic verse that allows polygamy is applied in totality and the "justice" part isn't ignored ...

 

[war&peace]

@PakSword can you please upload an English version of this document

Furthermore, if a Pakistani origin guy marries abroad, does he need to register his marriage in Pakistan too and what laws are applicable in that case?

 

[M. Sarmad]

By the way, where in the marriage contract, this permission can be obtained?

Column No. 17 allows the husband and wife to put any conditions they deem necessary for a successful marriage ... You can add extra clauses and documents as well

 

[Well.wisher]

And what about Quran's permission?

What about quran's guidance to men about women ? Do the men follow what quran says about women ? No .
So why should women be obliged to men's lust full desires .

And what about Quran's permission?

I think we should be selective.. Let's take whatever suits us and throw (Astaghfirullah) what doesn't..

I'm not being selective , for me my deen revolves around Allah subhanu Taalaa and acquiring his pleasure . These things you guys r discussing are unimportant to me . They were unimportant to the prophet's times too that's y u see no such narrations where such debates existed that time . It's very unimportant things that you guys have made unnecessarily important , you know y . Cause the men like u want to enjoy your lusts, u want more cause your nafs is forcing u that's y u bring islam to justify your nafs .
For me islam means equality , it's about not hurting anyone's feelings and hearts .
Have I not seen women being hurt nd depressed cause of their husband's deceiving them nd marrying other women . Sorry , this is not islam where u break people's heart nd deceive them , treat them badly nd makes them feel as useless human beings . If pakistan doesn't emit this law cause it's the islamic Republic then it should demolish this status nd acquire communism .

And what about Quran's permission?

I think we should be selective.. Let's take whatever suits us and throw (Astaghfirullah) what doesn't..

By the way, I am fine with this Qanoon if Pakistan stops pretending to be an Islamic Republic.. Both things can't go together.. what do you say?

I say be it .
If it's the only way to equalise all citizens of this state .
I don't wanna live in this state that gives men the right to take me as their second wife .
We women don't wanna live as second class citizens , ye mulk ap ko mubarak ho Agr ap ny oraton se apni hawas hi puri krna k liye haasil kia .

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

It will eventually reach its goals set prior to its independence. We will be here, you may need to move.

Lmao on what basis are you making this prediction. Laws are only being made more moderate. Nearly every month there is an appeal to amend even major islamic laws. Society is slowly turning more left winged.

 

[war&peace]

And what about Quran's permission?

I think we should be selective.. Let's take whatever suits us and throw (Astaghfirullah) what doesn't..

By the way, I am fine with this Qanoon if Pakistan stops pretending to be an Islamic Republic.. Both things can't go together.. what do you say?

Bhai there is another much important and deeper aspect. Right now polygamy is being portrayed as something bad and evil and these radical feminists and their brain washed men deride a polygamist man as if he has committed something bad. That's really alarming and horrible because who can be better in morals than our Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) and he exercised polygamy, his companions exercised polygamy and rather a large number of Prophets exercised it.

It is a part of the bigger game. Right now they are attacking not just polygamy but the institution of the marriage itself and want sexual perverseness spread through the society. They may not be very open with their goals in Pakistan but here in the west they talk very openly about it and they say "open relationship" is the future.

 

[M. Sarmad]

@PakSword can you please upload an English version of this document
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[war&peace]

Lmao on what basis are you making this prediction. Laws are only being made more moderate. Nearly every month there is an appeal to amend even major islamic laws. Society is slowly turning more left winged.

All the changes made by these corrupt libturds will be undone in near future...

A free advice for you buddy..start packing and book the cheapest flight in advance because it is going to get very very difficult to get a seat.