Major technical fault during trials in Tejas

[India defense]

Yes truth indeed hurts that's why you have become personal, a typical trademark of Indian loser, when shown the mirror, either call in the cavalry or resort to habitual verbal diarrhoea.


Why don't you take your wealth to somewhere who might be oblivious to your bankrupt mindset and self gloating BS.
You people are like nappies, always need to be disposed for being full of it.

that's why you are elite member...whatever you say is truth rest is false...i have just my middle finger for elite member like you...

 

[ebony&ivory]

With Modi in charge, shupa powa LCA will be the first six generation fighter in the world!

 

[hunter_hunted]

Its time to kick some butts of people who are involved in this project. With all the money and access to foreign tech stil tejas is on ground .....

 

[sathya]

With Modi in charge, shupa powa LCA will be the first six generation fighter in the world!

Atleast a joke like this is good to laugh...

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

You repair one fault, then other start creating issue, but when you fix this fault, then you find problem in other part.. i think there is something wrong in airframe !
Start it again from scratch

 

[SQ8]

There is no competition. The competition is in your head.

That's rich coming from a Pakistani.

Not in my head. Im not the one joining up an Indian defence forum.. you are here on a Pakistani one trying to defend yourself from the supposed people you look down upon...whose opinion matters so that all of you need to join in droves and (thank you) push the revenues of the site up and keep it running.

 

[doppelganger]

whose opinion matters so that all of you need to join in droves and (thank you) push the revenues of the site up and keep it running.

Don't mean to be rude but I don't think any of us join up here because your opinion matters. Well your's (as in Oscar's) and some others do, but not because you are Pakistani. Just because of what you write.

That said am happy its in a healthy commercial space. Another site I used to frequent has suddenly shut with an Account Suspended message. The internet like life is brutal. You need to continue to strive to be relevant.

 

[SQ8]

Then

Don't mean to be rude but I don't think any of us join up here because your opinion matters. Well your's (as in Oscar's) and some others do, but not because you are Pakistani. Just because of what you write.

That said am happy its in a healthy commercial space. Another site I used to frequent has suddenly shut with an Account Suspended message. The internet like life is brutal. You need to continue to strive to be relevant.

Why join up? After all, every action has motivation.
Im here because I know stuff and like to know stuff.
Other Pakistanis are here because its their country...
Now if Indians dont care about Pakistanis or their opinions, this site would not matter at all... but the proof is to the contrary.

 

[SQ8]

It's a good site. I don't look down upon Pakistan, but saying that Pakistan is India's competition is disingenuous. I am new to this website, but what I gather is from here is that Pakistan is in a state of paranoia. You have picked a fight that cannot be won. That's is an opinion which is subjective. Anyways, what do you think of MCIWS, is it any good?


There is an easy explanation, this site is fun, Indian forums are not.

I see no competition with India.. its 6 times the land mass and 10 times the population. Its illogical to compete.

 

[doppelganger]

Then

Why join up? After all, every action has motivation.
Im here because I know stuff and like to know stuff.
Other Pakistanis are here because its their country...
Now if Indians dont care about Pakistanis or their opinions, this site would not matter at all... but the proof is to the contrary.

I joined up because

1) First I thought it would be a good way to pick up Pakistani chicks

Then I got banned a lot and had to mend my ways

I also thought it would be a great idea to talk to Pakistani guys. Honestly initially was quite impressed that your lot wrote good English and stuff. There is so much the common folk here have misconceptions about.

But yeah I guess you are right. Your opinions do matter and are of interest. I guess what I meant was more that while its interesting to know what you think, its not really a prime mover in most of our lives.

 

[SQ8]

Then we agree. The MCIWS, is it any good?

What would that be again?

I joined up because

1) First I thought it would be a good way to pick up Pakistani chicks

Then I got banned a lot and had to mend my ways

I also thought it would be a great idea to talk to Pakistani guys. Honestly initially was quite impressed that your lot wrote good English and stuff. There is so much the common folk here have misconceptions about.

But yeah I guess you are right. Your opinions do matter and are of interest. I guess what I meant was more that while its interesting to know what you think, its not really a prime mover in most of our lives.

Those misconceptions are up to those that know better to clear it out. However, when a stubborn approach is taken by the common folk then those that know better will reply in the same or worse language. Anything else seems to have failed to work.

 

[ayesha.a]

You repair one fault, then other starts creating issue, but when you fix this fault, then you find problem in other part.. i think there is something wrong in airframe !
Start it again from scratch

"Something wrong in airframe" is too vague. No airframe is perfect, it's always a compromise between many parameters. There are quite a few shortcomings we could ascribe to Tejas' airframe - for one thing, it is too draggy, when compared to fighters of similar size. For example the Gripen, which is slightly bigger, and running on the same engine, has superior aerodynamic characteristics. One could say therefore, that the Gripen has a better airframe.

But then, sometimes shortcomings are intentional - the F-35's airframe has inferior aerodynamic performance (maneuverability, agility) compared to the F-16, but that is more than offset by the F-35's "very low observability". It was a trade-off between the two, and the designers consciously chose stealth as a more important factor.

Anyway, there would be "something wrong in the airframe", only if the aircraft cannot stay airborne. If the airframe is shaped like a pyramid, it is not going to be capable of flight, ever. But of all the designs that can actually fly, you can't say there is something wrong with the airframe, unless you mean either that it cannot fly, or that it does not meet a certain flight characteristic that the designers were asked to meet. If the Tejas' ITR or STR or AoA or max speed is below what is needed, and it is not due to lack of thrust (engine), then one could say that the airframe has to be redesigned. But as far as we know from public info, there is nothing wrong in the way Tejas flies, and the test pilots have gone on record stating that it is a delight to fly, like the Mirage-2000 (which was the inspiration for the design).

The delays in the program have nothing to do with airframe design issues. The fact is that airframe is only the first step, there is so much more to make the aircraft not just a flying machine, but a warfighting machine. That is where India had zero experience (only a handful of countries do), and Indian engineers are having to plod the slow, laborious path towards completion.

The airframe is more than good - in the sense that 1)it can fly, and 2) it can be flown better and easier than one of IAF's favorite aircrafts, the M2K. But a modern fighter jet is a very complex machine, it not only has to fly, but it has to hunt, it has to kill, it has to avoid being hunted, avoid being killed, it has to communicate, it has to search, it has to...

The delays are to be expected, when a bunch of people with zero experience and foreknowledge embark upon such a difficult venture. It was foolish to think that ADA/HAL could design and operationalize a 21rst century fighter in the same timeline that Europeans or Americans could.

 

[Shamain]

Tejas Flypast in Republic day Parade.

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Now thats what i call 'Teja's flypast'. Only teja's.

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Btw poor reporting, the headline was so loud abt the fault and all the article stated was an undercarriage that was down. What is it supposed to mean. Now that if similar scale journalism was done by india for pakistan thne same indians hopping up and down going defensive would have been celebrating.

Anyways back to point, it is poor reporting also cuz pretty sure there are ton more flaws with the jet that werent discussed in report.

 

[topgun047]

CBI should check Mr.Sujan Dutta's(the author) bank accounts and phone records and such.

We need to weed out such slimebags who will sell out our country for two pieces of silver.

 

[GURU DUTT]

CBI should check Mr.Sujan Dutta's(the author) bank accounts and phone records and such.

We need to weed out such slimebags who will sell out our country for two pieces of silver.

why do you think media is crying so loud about so called "terror" of NaMo for them

and its not CBI who does these jobs anymore