‘Major surprises’ expected in talks with militants, ISI

[nirreich]

Pakistan's losses are the result of supporting the US invasion and occupation of Afghanistan - the US invasion and occupation was the catalyst for many of these groups to take up arms against the Pakistani military and State that they saw as supporting an unjust war and occupation.

Yes, the Americans decided to get rid of the nest of hornets of radical Islamic terrorism which threatens international security and was responsible the butchering of many innocent lives, like in 9/11. Of course this murderers are going to fight back, but instead of helping them and sympathise with them Pakistan must had at last to eliminate them from its territory.

 

[Gautam]

3 January 2012, PTI
The Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan has
said it will continue carrying out suicide
attacks and targeting Pakistani
security forces despite joining other
militant groups in a pledge not to kill
innocent people or to resort to
kidnappings for ransom.
“Yes, we signed an accord with three
other major Taliban groups of Maulvi
Nazeer, Hafiz Gul Bahadur and an
Afghan Taliban faction to avoid killing
of innocent people and kidnapping for
ransom, but we did not agree with
them to stop suicide attacks and our
fight against Pakistani security forces,”
TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said.
The TTP led by Hakimullah Mehsud
had not announced any ceasefire and
had no plans to do so in the near
future, Ehsan told The News daily on
phone from an undisclosed location in
the tribal areas.
He warned that TTP fighters would
continue their operations in Pakistan.
The TTP will extend cooperation to the
five-member ‘Shura’ or council with
representatives from the groups of
Maulvi Nazeer and Hafiz Gul Bahadur
and the Haqqani network, he said.
The Shura was recently formed by
Taliban factions from North South
Waziristan, which signed an accord on
the directive of Mullah Muhammad
Omar, the supreme commander of the
Afghan Taliban.
The other groups have pledged not to
attack Pakistani security forces.
However, Ehsan argued that the joint
Shura had been formed only for
tackling two key issues - frequent
incidents of kidnapping for ransom and
killing of innocent people, especially
those picked up in the tribal areas and
executed on charges of spying for the
U.S..

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TTP says no relenting on attacks against Pakistani forces - The Hindu: Mobile Edition

 

[Gautam]

atleast they will spare the innocents.

 

[graphican]

TTP used to claim they attack Pakistani soldiers and citizen because Pakistanis are silently supporting war in Afghanistan. Now there is no support from Pakistan at all and that leaves no ground for them to attack anybody at all.

 

[lem34]

‘Major surprises’ expected in talks with militants, ISI tells senators
By Irfan Ghauri
Published: December 30, 2011


There was no discussion, however, on the Memogate affair, the participants claimed.
One participant from a military background said he was not only satisfied with the briefing, but also paid accolades to the ISI. “The ISI is the best spy agency in the world. It has been succeeding in its mission. Bashing of the ISI and the army by the people of Pakistan is unfortunate … they do not know the real functions of this agency,” he said.

Published in The Express Tribune, December 30th, 2011.

excellent summery of ISI performance by someone who should know

 

[salmakh84]

TTP used to claim they attack Pakistani soldiers and citizen because Pakistanis are silently supporting war in Afghanistan. Now there is no support from Pakistan at all and that leaves no ground for them to attack anybody at all.

so the NATO flights is no support at all? What about the on going negotiations with Americans?

 

[Safriz]

TTP used to claim they attack Pakistani soldiers and citizen because Pakistanis are silently supporting war in Afghanistan. Now there is no support from Pakistan at all and that leaves no ground for them to attack anybody at all.

Source "The Hindu" .. If they know where is TTP sitting because they got this "reliable" statement from the "Source" .. why not tel Pakistan the location and PA can get rid of them?
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The news should be read like this...
The Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (CIA) has said it will continue carrying out suicide attacks and targeting Pakistani security forces (Because PA refuses to fight US's dirty war) despite joining other militant groups in a pledge not to kill innocent people or to resort to kidnappings for ransom (So that USA can get sympathies from people of Pakistan against PA..double whammy that is). “Yes, we signed an accord with three
other major Taliban groups of Maulvi Nazeer (Just made up the name), Hafiz Gul Bahadur (Other wise called peter Griffin of Family guy)and an Afghan Taliban faction to avoid killing of innocent people and kidnapping for ransom (CIA has all the money they need), but we did not agree with them to stop suicide attacks and our fight against Pakistani security forces,(Although we failed to recruite any Jacket Zombie sice ISI started kicking out back side)”TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan (They could have made up a better name..such as Ehsan Khan Ehsan Jan) said.The TTP led by Hakimullah Mehsud had not announced any ceasefire and had no plans to do so in the near future, Ehsan told The News daily on phone from an undisclosed location (Some unknown office in CIA headQuarters) in the tribal areas (of USA). He warned that TTP fighters would continue their operations in Pakistan.(Such as planting toy bombs to kill children,things they have resorted to after not being able to carry out suicide attacks)
The TTP will extend cooperation to the five-member ‘Shura’ or council with representatives from the groups of Maulvi Nazeer and Hafiz Gul Bahadur (Otherwise called Bart Simpson) and the Haqqani network, he said.The Shura was recently formed (In the dark corners of some CIA apprentice who could only come up with this rediculous news report,nothing better)by Taliban factions from North South Waziristan, which signed an accord onthe directive of Mullah Muhammad Omar, the supreme commander of the Afghan Taliban.The other groups have pledged not toattack Pakistani security forces.However, Ehsan argued that the joint Shura had been formed only for tackling two key issues - frequent incidents of kidnapping for ransom and killing of innocent people, especially those picked up in the tribal areas and executed on charges of spying for the U.S..

 

[Rafi]

We are defeating them, the lack of attacks is not from not trying but the Security Forces are busting their ops before they can indulge in mass casualty attacks.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

TTP used to claim they attack Pakistani soldiers and citizen because Pakistanis are silently supporting war in Afghanistan. Now there is no support from Pakistan at all and that leaves no ground for them to attack anybody at all.

The Thing is buddy you Pakistanis eagerly want Taliban rule in Afghanistan calling their rule as just and equality and calling them Good Taliban. But when TTP want to do same in Pakistani you call them brutal, barbaric and Bad Taliban. You folks need to wipe them out because they are not going to any peace deal unless and until Afghanistan type Taliban regime is formed in Pakistan. In Pakistan you man still don't keep beard, your women go to school and don't wear Burqa and work among Men, you still have western Democracy and western Economic System, TV-Internet. Forget TTP making any deal with you.

 

[Rafi]

The Thing is buddy you Pakistanis eagerly want Taliban rule in Afghanistan calling their rule as just and equality and calling them Good Taliban. But when TTP want to do same in Pakistani you call them brutal, barbaric and Bad Taliban. You folks need to wipe them out because they are not going to any peace deal if Afghanistan type Taliban regime is formed in Pakistan. In Pakistan you man still don't keep beard, your women go to school and don't wear Burqa, you still have western Democracy and western Economic System, TV-Internet. Forget TTP making any deal with you.

The AT are Afghans, we Pakistanis are just waiting to see what happens, we want a friendly govt in Afghanistan.

 

[Imran Khan]

TTP used to claim they attack Pakistani soldiers and citizen because Pakistanis are silently supporting war in Afghanistan. Now there is no support from Pakistan at all and that leaves no ground for them to attack anybody at all.

and you believe it ? lolz even we will be in war with USA they will attack on us because of there masters are somewhere else paying them

 

[patna_ke_presley]

The AT are Afghans, we Pakistanis are just waiting to see what happens, we want a friendly govt in Afghanistan.

If you have extremist in your neighborhood, you can't protect your home from that.

I was watching a Program on Pakistan channel, a Pakistani politician was saying , " madrasa say hamarey bachchay mar rahey hain, koy batayeh kahi ricky margaya ho kahi richard margaya ho, kahi prakash, dilip, ram, margaya ho. koy bataye bhi hamarey bachcey mar rahey hain."

 

[Imran Khan]

If you have extremist in your neighborhood, you can't protect your home from that.

I was watching a Program on Pakistan channel, a Pakistani politician was saying , " madrasa say hamarey bachchay mar rahey hain, koy batayeh kahi ricky margaya ho kahi richard margaya ho, kahi prakash, dilip, ram, margaya ho. koy bataye bhi hamarey bachcey mar rahey hain."

its true but if you think you can wipe out or change this mentality at one day you are wrong now a days too much care abut these madrasas and situation is changing with time if you remember in 2007 2008 and 2009

 

[53fd]

I'm rather be on the offensive against them than 'negotiate' with them, they will keep feeling the full force of the Pakistan Armed Forces like they already are, unless they voluntarily surrender their arms & refuse to act against the state.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

I'm rather be on the offensive against them than 'negotiate' with them, they will keep feeling the full force of the Pakistan Armed Forces like they already are, unless they voluntarily surrender their arms & refuse to act against the state.

You need to wipe them out because their main goal is to take back your country back into past.