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Yes its worth every penny for us to have an aircraft carrier.

Wasnt you who have commented Turkey should also have one??

What makes you think India cant afford that and this.

Indian Navy is big enough for it security concerns.

No not that but.. I don't think India has a big navy just to put 20ships there...

Yes I want to have AC too in turkish navy.
But turkey does have bigger navy then Indian navy.
Also it's raising with their navy major modernizations...
I mean it's a big risk to put a big numbers of ships in 1 formation if you ask me.
 
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Hm...
Is that aircraft carrieer REALLY that worth?
Also India cannot just put 20navy ships to surround their Ac.
They can't afford that.
They don't have that big navy..

In 2012 we are inducting 10 ships.

1 aircraft carrier
3 corvettes
3 frigates (Krivak 4 class)
1 tanker
1 destroyer
1. nuclear submarine

and before 2012 we are inducting 3 frigates and a nuclear submarine this year. so in these 3 years we are inducting 5 ships. so by 2012 we have around 15 ships ready.

These are the active ships in the indian navy. Include INS Jalshwa too

http://indiannavy.nic.in/ships.htm
 
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Oh so yourgoing to put all those new ships to the carrier...
I mean its a good toy.
But once lost.. money is gone..
And putting many ships in formations..
seems not really smart.
I rather put some 6 ships which are very advanced..
 
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Oh so yourgoing to put all those new ships to the carrier...
I mean its a good toy.
But once lost.. money is gone..

If every navy starts thinking your way, they would never have any Ac at all thinking once lost ,money is gone...

And putting many ships in formations..
seems not really smart.
I rather put some 6 ships which are very advanced..

IN is will soon have some most advanced ships in its arsenal...infact some are already ready..anf many of them near completion..so its not just the Ac carier...
 
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Oh so yourgoing to put all those new ships to the carrier...
I mean its a good toy.
But once lost.. money is gone..
And putting many ships in formations..
seems not really smart.
I rather put some 6 ships which are very advanced..

you dont get it right..we are a 155 ship navy with more than 70 combatants already. these are the new additions. ofcourse one CBG of ours is going to contain an AC, 2 destroyers, 3 Frigates, 1 nuclear submarine, 2 conventional submarine, 1 amphibious ship and 1 replenishment tanker. that is 11 ships all in total.
 
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No not that but.. I don't think India has a big navy just to put 20ships there...

Yes I want to have AC too in turkish navy.
But turkey does have bigger navy then Indian navy.
Also it's raising with their navy major modernizations...
I mean it's a big risk to put a big numbers of ships in 1 formation if you ask me.

Ships of the Indian Navy

Aircraft carrier (1 in service)
Submarines (16 in Service)
Destroyers (8 in service)
Frigates (10 in service)
Corvettes (24 in Service)
Amphibious Warfare Ships (20 in Service)
Patrol Ships (27 in Service)
Minesweepers (8 in Service)


Present Fleet (170 in Service)


Planned ships and submarines (Total ~80)


This may not be enough for you, but its more than enough for us.
 
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Oh so yourgoing to put all those new ships to the carrier...
I mean its a good toy.
But once lost.. money is gone..
And putting many ships in formations..
seems not really smart.
I rather put some 6 ships which are very advanced..

I think you dont know why a should a Navy should have an aircraft carrier. The time you understand that, you will be well informed about how important the AC is to navies.
 
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Ships of the Indian Navy

Aircraft carrier (1 in service)
Submarines (16 in Service)
Destroyers (8 in service)
Frigates (10 in service)
Corvettes (24 in Service)
Amphibious Warfare Ships (20 in Service)
Patrol Ships (27 in Service)
Minesweepers (8 in Service)


Present Fleet (170 in Service)


Planned ships and submarines (Total ~80)


This may not be enough for you, but its more than enough for us.

Look at the corvettes and subs and frigates..and destroyers..
If you put 2 or 3 of them then you have put 10% of your navy..
 
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Look at the corvettes and subs and frigates..and destroyers..
If you put 2 or 3 of them then you have put 10% of your navy..

yes looking at that. Thats what navies look like.:cheers:
 
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Look at the corvettes and subs and frigates..and destroyers..
If you put 2 or 3 of them then you have put 10% of your navy..

I am sure you are counting the in service vessels (170)...because if you were discussing the AC (future)carrier then you have to count the planned ships as well..that is 80...and I think you will then agree that we are procuring more than what we are putting to the Ac...

Planned ships and submarines (Total ~80)
 
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Turkey have 27 frigates.. Some of them are classed as destroyers and even warships by some countries.(including milgem)
then they have 20submarines.. type214TN included(Best non-nuclear sub in the world)
14corvettes(including milgem).

Amphibious Warfare Ships?? You mean landing craft? then turkey have way more then 20.
16 patrol ships..
25+ mine ships..
If you look Turkish navy have slightly bigger navy and most of them are very advanced and uses best technologies(as some of you may know).
and the inventory of 2020 will be much higher.
More then the projects that has been inducted in india.
 
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Look at the corvettes and subs and frigates..and destroyers..
If you put 2 or 3 of them then you have put 10% of your navy..

You use your navy as a show piece and to protect your coast. But we are aiming to be a blue water navy. We have everything in place. and we beat you by miles when it comes to tonnage. And you dont even have a destroyer in your navy. So dont compare the Turkish navy with the Indian navy.
 
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India has 42 principal surface combatants.

With many more being built and even more that are planned, (i.e confirmed to be built).

Turkey has 26.

The Turkish Navy has a lot of Patrol boats which the Indian Navy does not operate, the Indian Coast Guard is tasked with such responsibilities.
 
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You use your navy as a show piece and to protect your coast. But we are aiming to be a blue water navy. We have everything in place. and we beat you by miles when it comes to tonnage. And you dont even have a destroyer in your navy. So dont compare the Turkish navy with the Indian navy.

I dont care.. turkish navy estimates of 258,948(accourding to wikipedia which has not been updates for a couple years...)
I also dont care about blue water navy..
Turkish navy can operate everywhere on the oceans and seas.
And i tell you now.. those frigates ofturkey is even classed as destroyers..
also.. I tell you this too..
Having some numbers but no quality is not better then numbers plus quality.
 
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