Lt Gen (R) Nazir Ahmad appointed Chairman NAB

[Maula Jatt]

If the history of the area and the general composition of the people that now occupy it is to be subservient in all cases and prefer a feudalistic society

Bro when are you going to stop with these old 70s , 80s era stereotypes?

Punjabs feudalism ended by and large through population growth, small land holdings - there's books written on this phenomena Read em

Our chief Ministers are all coming from urban, buisness backgrounds for DECADES now- what feudal society?

You have been to Lahore, Sialkot, Gujrat, gujaranwala - they look like feudal societies to you? - Urban Punjab elects and selects government, especially the middle class, middle class of Punjab is huge amongst the largest by % in all of Pakistan and Pakistans middle class was historically very big compared to rest of South Asia

Are fuedal societies known for thier middle classes and are middle classes responsible for who gets into power or not- even the army is made up of middle class, or lower middle class folks who later become rich through corruption

Fuedals by and large are done and dusted politically, economically outside of SP

We can have some sorta clansih identities - but that's a phenomena across the region middle east or South Asia and by thier standards- it's still low

What fuedal society?

Subservient to our army who we loved so did most of Pakistan? Subservient to N-league or anyother party that we ourselves elected especially the middle classes?

Now we like PTI more and are protecting it 24/7, electing it in every elections by heavy majority- in jail bharo tahreek barely any involvement from KPK or Karachi but Punjab was leading it, Punjab's workers and politcal leaders faced the brunt of all government actions - but still blame us for everything?

What did Karachi do? Even One serious protest for city autonomy?, What did Sindh do? Did Balochistan killed off it's brutal sardars?- protest movement for free judiciary was from Punjab- that was brutal yet succeeded

May brutalities against PTI workers and leaders was all in Punjab--4000 people arrested in the middle of the night, from villages to cities, gas shells, torture every tactic used
yet the movement is stronger than ever before- it didn't damage the movement one bit, instead you saw a PTI victory in Punjab right after that paving way for a coalition government of PTI

 

[SQ8]

Bro when are you going to stop with these old 70s , 80s era stereotypes?

Punjabs feudalism ended by and large through population growth, small land holdings - there's books written on this phenomena Read em

Our chief Ministers are all coming from urban, buisness backgrounds for DECADES now- what feudal society?

You have been to Lahore, Sialkot, Gujrat, gujaranwala - they look like feudal societies to you? - Urban Punjab elects and selects government, especially the middle class, middle class of Punjab is huge amongst the largest by % in all of Pakistan and Pakistans middle class was historically very big compared to rest of South Asia

Are fuedal societies known for thier middle classes and are middle classes responsible for who gets into power or not- even the army is made up of middle class, or lower middle class folks who later become rich through corruption

Fuedals by and large are done and dusted politically, economically outside of SP

We can have some sorta clansih identities - but that's a phenomena across the region middle east or South Asia and by thier standards- it's still low

What fuedal society?

Subservient to our army who we loved so did most of Pakistan? Subservient to N-league or anyother party that we ourselves elected especially the middle classes?

Now we like PTI more and are protecting it 24/7, electing it in every elections by heavy majority- in jail bharo tahreek barely any involvement from KPK or Karachi but Punjab was leading it, Punjab's workers and politcal leaders faced the brunt of all government actions - but still blame us for everything?

What did Karachi do?, What did Sindh do? Did Balochistan killed off it's brutal sardars?

Where do the loyalties for those businessmen come from?

You literally called out Sindh and Balochistan for feudalism and then deny it? Is Pakistan all in Punjab or something? That area has been rolled over since Alexander - the entire culture is some form of loyalty to an upper caste or social strata-/ what 70s or 80s?
All the waderas or sardars dead or something -

Successful businessman or urban elite - that mentality never disappeared

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Army - Lead by General (Makes sense every country does this part)
ISI - Some Army Fella
NAB - Retired General
DHA - General
PIA - Ex Airforce Head not great business sense but Operational Sense
Fauji Foundation - Construction Project must be General involved in some capacity
Jail - General put in Jail for 3 days , happens , huge reaction from Pakistani People

Supreme Court - Alhamdulila Civilian Judge for now


Pretty much whole country is under marshal Law
Mager
"London main to kiya Meri to UAE main bhi nahi Property"

General ki Family all Settled in USA

 

[Super Falcon]

Ya retire Hoka Ghar kyon mahi jata

 

[HAIDER]

Ya retire Hoka Ghar kyon mahi jata

because we have " bloody incompetent civilians" ..... loll

 

[Maula Jatt]

Where do the loyalties for those businessmen come from?

Was Sharif or pervaiz elahi fuedals in any shape or form

Sharif were peasants of Kashmir while elahis family became buisnessmen after partition? Before that they were probably famers or just regular people from the city

Were the arain steel manufacturers of 60s 70s fuedals? - no even they were not fuedals

Again the stereotypes you have are not true dude

You literally called out Sindh and Balochistan for feudalism and then deny it?

Wdym? - I said the society is fuedal and people of those areas don't do anything about it- no one says anything
yet even the fuedal society trope is used mostly against us than
actual frickin fuedal society lol
what am I denying ?

Btw they're my Pakistani brothers I am not trying to demean em in any shape or form just pointing out what I found to be hypocritical

Karachi NEVER had a proper protest movement for city autonomy - not once, police beat em up here and there and they go hiding- yet no one talks about that, no one calls that subservient

That's despite all the bravado of we are educated, politically aware and this and that - yet even after all that NEVER ONCE had a proper protest movement for city based autonomy- what do you call that?

While Punjab had it in the 2000s return to democracy saw huge protest movements, protests for free judiciary, BB's death, Hazarawal had brutal protest movements when name changed to KPK- and hell currently it's still going strong for PTI after brutalities of March on Islamabad, May, 4000 politcal workers arrested in the middle of the night, tortured yet movement is stronger than ever before

And even after all that handed PTI a victory in elections - where they made a coalition government

Anyone else in whole of Pakistan showing up like that?

Is Pakistan all in Punjab or something?

No, far from it - and that's my whole point, get out of this mentality of blaming all our issues on someone else- externally it's American or youhadi internally atleast ethno nats blame all thier societal ills on one ethnicity

but ALL of Pakistan talks about Punjabis only as the root cause of all of their problems

You pretty much were doing the same- I could literally see it lol

That area has been rolled over since Alexander -

Biggest BS since the dawn of mankind - who were the Hindu shahis from Lahore to Kabul?, Who was the khokhar clan leader khizr Khan of sayyid dynasty who ruled Delhi to Sindh to Jammu?, Who was jasrant khokhar another ruler of Punjab and Jammu and western UP? Hell modern day example of our brothers from AJk fighting a war of liberation, liberating thier lands and joining Pakistan on their own

I can go and on with it but it looks stupid as it's clearly part of a campaign

Same as that was started by hindutavas Indians on social media of how no Punjabi Muslim general won a battle for 1000 years - when the Mughal army had shit load of punjabi generals, some were legendary and expanded the empires to all corners, Adina baig when he was with the Mughals himself defeated abdali forces many times forget the legendary punjabi generals of Mughal when he was just amongst the average one

I know Indians propoganda campaigns on the internet target us specifically but expected better from pakistanis to not fall into it

plains throughout the world have been a difficult place to be anywhere, that's true but with utmost respect you're relying on a tropes Sir

the entire culture is some form of loyalty to an upper caste or social strata-/

Upper caste? All politically dominant clans of Punjab are traditional agrarian clans not upper caste

2- tell me a country outside of communist countries or new world countries in the Americas where those who were historically upper class have no say in their countries

This is a phenomena world over - from a developed to developing countries

what 70s or 80s?
All the waderas or sardars dead or something -

No they're not dead but they're not as powerful as they were before - please check out Punjab MNA, mpa's after 2000s , especially from Central and northern Punjab
While sure fuedal lord's from historically big families are there but a significant percentage is not, they're from new urban classes, society is rapidly changing to keep up with these stereotypes - when I have time I am willing to go one by one on each MNA, mpa - you'd be surprised as I was when I looked it up

Successful businessman or urban elite - that mentality never disappeared

Dk what you are trying to say

 

[SoulSpokesman]

General Nazir Ahmed Butt. General NAB to head NAB. Seems all right, no? Why all the Kolaveri di?

Regards

 

[Maula Jatt]

abey, ja k so jaa

@waz @Jango @SQ8 wtf is wrong with this guy - go through his posting history he is doing the same repetitive shit everywhere- on every thread

2- disrespecting a Shaheed major raja Aziz bhatti

I am ignoring it - Please Take care of it or I'll talk sense into him in every thread he is posting this crap on
Although it'll degrade this forums quality

 

[-=virus=-]

@waz @Jango @SQ8 wtf is wrong with this guy - go through his posting history he is doing the same repetitive shit everywhere- on every thread

2- disrespecting a Shaheed major raja Aziz bhatti

I am ignoring it - Please Take care of it or I'll talk sense into him in every thread he is posting this crap in
Although it'll degrade this forums quality

wtf man, I'm just messing with you ekdum friendly scene...

why you so triggered ? : (

 

[PakFactor]

Pakistan is the land of milk and honey; you don't need qualifications for a job posting in a governmental institution.
Doing your five daily prayers on a rug and some food from the canteen is enough.

 

[imadul]

PTI should challenge this in the court as government cannot appoint a chairman NAB without the consultation of the opposition leader which happens to be Shah Mahmood Quershi and not that scum Raja Riaz.

I am sure it shall be challenged.
Whole bunch of lawyers on PTI side.
PTI won SC Bar, IH Bar, Punjab bar, Punjab HC bar, many city bars, it shall be challenged.

 

[imadul]

@waz @Jango @SQ8 wtf is wrong with this guy - go through his posting history he is doing the same repetitive shit everywhere- on every thread

2- disrespecting a Shaheed major raja Aziz bhatti

I am ignoring it - Please Take care of it or I'll talk sense into him in every thread he is posting this crap on
Although it'll degrade this forums quality

Typical dumb witted Indian who think he has suddenly become smart after modi massacred Muslims in Gujrat, after cow vigilantes lynching Muslims to death, killing Muslims of love jihad, they blood Thurst of Hindus has awakened.

 

[Laser]

koi gernail reh na jaay .

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Lagta hai is mulk me Foji Retired k ilawa baqi sb jahil rehtay hain.

 

[imadul]

@waz @Jango @SQ8 wtf is wrong with this guy - go through his posting history he is doing the same repetitive shit everywhere- on every thread

2- disrespecting a Shaheed major raja Aziz bhatti

I am ignoring it - Please Take care of it or I'll talk sense into him in every thread he is posting this crap on
Although it'll degrade this forums quality

Report him.
He is just trolling because he thinks he can do it.

 

[Clutch]

koi gernail reh na jaay .

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