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Lockheed Martin offers F-16 Block 70, for India, from India, exported to the world

Not this F16 again. Too many platforms, logistical nightmare and I'm pretty sure they would just transfer the assembly line but not the complete ToT. Any major deal with the US comes with too many strings attached and we've seen the case with Pakistan. IMHO the only possible fighter jet which India can consider buying from the US is the F35C carrier variant if they are willing to supply. I really don't know why many Indians in this forum support F-16 when they are very much aware of the fact how the US uses other countries for it's own interests and what if the terms and relations between India and US aren't so good, they would reject the supply of spares and since it would only be an assembly line, they would stop sending the entire components. It is utter foolishness to induct a US made aircraft in large numbers and as the mainstay of IAF.
 
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We dont need Rafale to replace Mig21...but surely F16 to replace Mig 21...

Not a chance. The Rafael deal has bee reduced to 36 only due to lack of finances and IAAF has been asked to consider LCA in big numbers for being economical.

Iaf is in no position to consider F16 as replacement for mig21. It will be a financial nightmare.
 
http://www.spsmai.com/news/?id=875&...70-for-India-from-India-exported-to-the-world

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In sync with Make in India, Lockheed Martin is all out to move the production facility of its F-16 next generation fighters to India. ‘We have had a round of discussions earlier this year with the U.S. government, the government of India and the Indian industry partners about this opportunity. At this stage Indian government has been supplied with all data to support an informed decision’ said Abhay Paranjape, National Executive, India of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics. He however mentioned, that shifting of the assembly line is conditional to some assured orders from the India.

Highlighting the partnership strengths, Randall L. Howard from the F-16 Business Development team at Lockheed Martin added, ‘we have an unmatched Industrial partnership experience and we have established the industrial capability in country after country’. Lockheed had delivered a total of 958 fighters from its partnerships with SABCA-Belgium, Fokker-Netherlands, TAI-Turkey and KAI-Korea apart from 3616 deliveries from its facility in Fort Worth, Texas.

‘In India, we are already making components for the worldwide fleet’, added Abhay. Lockheed Martin has partnered with Tata Advanced Systems Limited.

The C-130J airlifter sold internationally contains major aero structure assemblies manufactured in India and each S-92 medium-lift helicopter built by Sikorsky, a Lockheed Martin company, has a cabin manufactured in Hyderabad.

Describing the next gen fighter, Randall pointed on the advantages, ‘Block 70 is most advanced F-16 ever and it will be made in India with an Indian company, this next generation fighter is an evolution of the proven design of the mid-life update (MLU) and common configuration improvement programme (CCIP). The fighter is equipped with latest technology in avionics equipment, operational capabilities, joint helmet cueing systems II and has an unparalleled survivability with modern internal electronic warfare system along with certified advanced weapons onboard’.



Jayant Baranwal, Editor-in-Chief, SP Guide Publications spoke to Randall L. Howard and Abhay Paranjape of Lockheed Martin. Excerpts:


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Randall L Howard
F-16 Business Development, Lockheed Martin
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Abhay Paranjape
National Executive, India,
Lockheed Martin Aeronautics
Jayant Baranwal (Baranwal): Does F-16 Block 70 offer any kind of stealth element?

Randall L. Howard (Howard): True stealth in all aspects has to be designed within the aircraft, that’s not the kind of stuff that comes with any aircraft but for F-22 and F-35. Having said that, F-16 offers a lot of general stealth, as it is a small aircraft and it has a pretty small cross section. There is coding that can be placed on the aircraft. The fighter includes a new radar system, stealth detection capability and threat detection capability; it competes very well in its class being undetectable to the radar.

Baranwal: What exactly is the offer of Lockheed Martin, also in the context of Make in India?

Abhay Paranjape (Paranjape): We are not looking at just assembling India’s aircraft here. We are looking at establishing the complete manufacturing base and the ecosystem here in India. We are looking at transferring our entire production from our existing Fort Worth facility to India and also exporting them from here. So what that means also, is, we now have a vested interest in making sure that it succeeds. Lockheed Martin is going to be selling aircraft made here to the world and we will make sure that it succeeds.

Baranwal: Which particular programme of Indian Air Force you are aiming for with the F-16 block 70?

Paranjape: You are very well aware that the MMRCA programme was about 126 odd aircraft. The Rafale is going though in final stages right now and is apparently for much smaller number. The MMRCA proposal came out in 2007 and we are in 2016, so we definitely think there is significant number of aircraft that will be required going forward, how many, what type, what and when exactly, that is up to the Indian Air Force.

Baranwal: Can F-16 compliment the LCA induction?

Paranjape: The induction of an aircraft into the force is obviously the decision of India Air Force’. You saw the briefing from Howard, as far as the capability; you can look it up as far as LCA’s capabilities, the range and the type and compare that with F-16 and you can see.

Baranwal: What will be the turnaround time for the first delivery from the Indian facility post the decision? Can you give an exact timeline?

Howard: I think it is hard to give an exact timeline. The typical delivery period of F-16 is about 36 months range. The challenge we have is to train the workforce and put in place all the facility. We have given a notional time-line to the government on the production. To be very specific in the public forum is very hard, because there are lot of variables and dependencies. But I can say that we have done these many-many times and we have a proven track record of having it done successfully.

Baranwal: As per recent reports, we believe that you are expecting a potential business worth $15 billion in India?

Howard: According to us this is a very conservative figure. We believe if the things fall in place then the potential of business is way too bigger than $15billion.
first of all there is not much export market left for f-16 as most air forces are going for EFTs and F-35s
so the only benefit they will have is to completely neutralize PAF
as f-16 is the tier they have
nevertheless if u get ToT as the article says it is worth considering
this might be LMs last export order for F-16
apart from PAF
they are hungry for this bird all the time
 
I saw a ad of LM on facebook saying F16v block 70 made in India for India.. lol.. try hards.. !!!
 
It's a scam, LM is trying to scam India. Air forces around the world are getting rid of their F-16s, and the ones that are buying them, they're buying second hand, because they're cheaper than brand new. The only market that India would have is spare parts, and they won't make money on that, to cover the cost of this deal.

But by all means, buy the damn thing, give Pakistan a reason to get rid of its fleet of F-16s.
 
first of all there is not much export market left for f-16 as most air forces are going for EFTs and F-35s
so the only benefit they will have is to completely neutralize PAF
as f-16 is the tier they have
nevertheless if u get ToT as the article says it is worth considering
this might be LMs last export order for F-16
apart from PAF
they are hungry for this bird all the time

There won't be any orders other than Indian Order of 200.
 
its been a year that i am hearing this news, why is indian news always a news


It's not been a year, more like a couple of months. This is new, outside of the MMRCA. It's an interesting development, honestly.

This deal doesnt just come with the bird, but a new aerospace power house within the private sector.
 
The deal is very appealing, it will create jobs, cost of F-16s will come down, India will earn (depending a lot on efficiency of manufacturing) by selling fully manufactured and spare parts all depending on contracts earned. But will India be able to manufacture them at will or even export independently? Also the sleath question was brushed away sneakily.
 
Not a chance. The Rafael deal has bee reduced to 36 only due to lack of finances and IAAF has been asked to consider LCA in big numbers for being economical.

Iaf is in no position to consider F16 as replacement for mig21. It will be a financial nightmare.
It is not lack of finance but other issues....FYI India will be spending $150B only on modernization so money is not the issue

Ummm like @Irfan Baloch said above, what wud Tejas replace then???
Both F16 and Tejas will replace Mig21
 
because India cant afford f-35 ..
but u r economic supa powa
apart from sarcasm
Inida can afford F-35 it is not much expensive then Rafael
its all matter of availability
perhaps US dont want to sell it because u have ur own FGFA and AMCA and might use their tech or give access to Ruskies developing PAKFA
 
It is not lack of finance but other issues....FYI India will be spending $150B only on modernization so money is not the issue
Go and check the statements of your defence minister in parliament. He acknowledged that raffle can not be purchased in big number due to financial issues and coat over run.
 

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