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Reveal your true intentions of posting this 'i went there,30 years ago and this is what i saw,so you just have to believe me' garbage boy? :D

If a secular has disappointment over islamization of pak army then its our win.
Though i want pak army to be more islamized but still its satisfactory...
 
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Because we have not enforced islam on ourselves in all aspects of our lives.

Taliban are doing it in a good manner why are you stopping them?

Your problem seems to be to judge people by virtue of their religious beliefs. You like people similar to zia who had this charade going about implementation of Islam.

Alcohol is bad, but not the retard who blows himself and calls it Jihad. Brilliant.
 
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Sir my point being, that committing sins is between you and your creator. How does that affect other people around me if i drink? But if i can't provide the justice to the weak, food and shelter to the poor, what is the point of all those prayers and rozas?

This mentality is what has gotten our country so screwed up. In the west, alcohol flows freely, but justice is served. One cannot hurt anyone and get away with it. In Pakistan if you have a beard you are considered a saint. No wonder the mullahs are out to take over Pakistan and take it back to the 7th century.

charsi kadi na marsi
 
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Taliban are doing it in a good manner why are you stopping them?

Your problem seems to be to judge people by virtue of their religious beliefs. You like people similar to zia who had this charade going about implementation of Islam.

Alcohol is bad, but not the retard who blows himself and calls it Jihad. Brilliant.

Well suicide is haram in islam, so is blasting innocent unarmed people. If they do it then they are not doing jihad.
And islam is not name of zia or taliban, educate yourself.
 
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Well suicide is haram in islam, so is blasting innocent unarmed people. If they do it then they are not doing jihad.
And islam is not name of zia or taliban, educate yourself.

Oh I know Islam very well. And I also know how Jihadis were manufactured and sold to the people of Pakistan. Islam in Pakistan is what Zia introduced.

People only see symbolism in Islam and this what Pakistan's Islam is is just symbolism.
 
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Oh I know Islam very well. And I also know how Jihadis were manufactured and sold to the people of Pakistan. Islam in Pakistan is what Zia introduced.

People only see symbolism in Islam and this what Pakistan's Islam is is just symbolism.

Its simple. Follow Quran and hadith.....islam is what hazrat mohammad p.b.u.h preached 1400 years ago, zia waghaira ko beech may lanay ki kya zarorat he?
 
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Well suicide is haram in islam, so is blasting innocent unarmed people. If they do it then they are not doing jihad.
And islam is not name of zia or taliban, educate yourself.

You know how Islamic Pak Fauj is.

Your own relatives are in Pak fauj.


We Pakistanis learn benefit from modernization, but retain our culture, unlike the Turks.
 
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Its simple. Follow Quran and hadith.....islam is what hazrat mohammad p.b.u.h preached 1400 years ago, zia waghaira ko beech may lanay ki kya zarorat he?

I mean no disrespect to Islam, but let me give you an example of how you are not getting the point.

In orthodox Islam, hands should be chopped off for stealing. Since you are commenting on this forum by using a Pirated ( stolen) operating system. Your hands should be chopped off.

Should that be done?

Religion should be a private matter unless someone harms public interests.

The desire to implement Islam in its purest form would lead to problems because no one is pious enough to determine who is right.

Peace.
 
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I mean no disrespect to Islam, but let me give you an example of how you are not getting the point.

In orthodox Islam, hands should be chopped off for stealing. Since you are commenting on this forum by using a Pirated ( stolen) operating system. Your hands should be chopped off.

Should that be done?

Religion should be a private matter unless someone harms public interests.

The desire to implement Islam in its purest form would lead to problems because no one is pious enough to determine who is right.

Peace.

Under-educated, please tell me where hands must be chopped off, for theft.
 
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I mean no disrespect to Islam, but let me give you an example of how you are not getting the point.

In orthodox Islam, hands should be chopped off for stealing. Since you are commenting on this forum by using a Pirated ( stolen) operating system. Your hands should be chopped off.

Should that be done?

Religion should be a private matter unless someone harms public interests.

The desire to implement Islam in its purest form would lead to problems because no one is pious enough to determine who is right.

Peace.

Chopping hand is in the case when sharia is enforced and country is welfare state......

Westerns think islam is name of just chopping hands or stoning....but it provides guidelines on your 24 hour life...on every aspect of your life...mukamal zabta e hayat hey.
 
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Chopping hand is in the case when sharia is enforced and country is welfare state......

Westerns think islam is name of chopping hands or stoning....but it provides guidelines on your 24 hour life...on every aspect of your life...mukamal zabta e hayat hey.

But isn't Sharia what Islam proposes. Please do not pick and choose. Chopping hands is part of it.

You asked Pakistanis to follow the purest of Islam. And Sharia is what it is. Sharia has many interpretations and Taliban one is also a strong one.

Take guidance from Malaysia.
 
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But isn't Sharia what Islam proposes. Please do not pick and chose. Chopping hands is part of it.

You asked Pakistanis to follow the purest of Islam. And Sharia is what it is. Sharia has many interpretations and Taliban one is also a strong one.

Take guidance from Malaysia.

Are you a muslim? Because it seems i am talking with a non-muslim...
 
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Are you a muslim? Because it seems i am talking with a non-muslim...

What the hell are you talking about?

I feel I am talking with a new convert who has no idea what Islam is.
 
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