Libya: A Year After Uprising Against Moammar Gadhafi, Power Held By Hundred

[pakje]

it will take 5-10 years to stabilize back to gadafi levels.
Was it worth it? I'd say no

 

[Amolthebest]

Pakistanis are not ready to give even a year to new Syrian Government to prove themselves but they written off Democracy even one consistent term.Irony.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Militias are killing each other.

 

[SamantK]

This is what happens when you alow western powers to play tricks. Poor Gaddafi, gave up nuclear weapons on US insistence and still died at their hands.. Wtf is UN doing now? Voting to bomb was taken but voting to restore a democracy... No?

 

[longbrained]

So this is the EU style democracy brought by bombs. We had already seen the US style in Iraq:

 

[SamantK]

So this is the EU style democracy brought by bombs. We had already seen the US style in Iraq:

Lol.... These are super funny!

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Yes to bad Muammar never finished his nuclear program, Kim jong Il finished his and died with full honors gaddafi did not and died in a hole like a rat after he embraced the west.

There are Gaddafi loyalists still around currently jailed and suppressed did you not hear of his followers taking over a town ? or trying to blow up the power grid ? The green revolution will always continue. Benghazi is the heart of terrorism in north africa, Benghazi needs to be razed.

 

[longbrained]

Lessons for Iranian leaders in their upcoming negotiations with west:


Qaddafi who traded off his nukes with lifting of sanctions:

And compare with it with the funeral of Kim Jong Il of North Korea who chose to be under sanctions and still have the nuclear weapons at his disposal:

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Gaddafi died in a hole like a rat after he embraced the west his final words were ''spare my sons do whatever you want to me''
Kim Jong il finished his and died with full honors, Gaddafi Son is going to get hanged by the Libyans.

 

[longbrained]

Gaddafi died in a hole like a rat after he embraced the west his final words were ''spare my sons do whatever you want to me''
Kim Jong il finished his and died with full honors, Gaddafi Son is going to get hanged by the Libyans.

If only he knew this was coming, he would have gone like crazy after air defense systems, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and nuclear weapons in addition to a first class intelligence agency to counter any terrorist movement. The people of Libya would also have been better off than they are now with more pride and security. They already had a good life too: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/136873-libya-qaddafi-facts-cant-denied.html

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Look Gaddafi Son embracing the west enjoying his western hookers.

Now look at him now

Saif al-Islam Could be Executed Following Libyan Trial - International Business Times

 

[longbrained]

This is what happens when you kiss up to west and do not have nuclear weapons.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Libyan Militias Accused of Targeting African Migrants

A human rights group says armed militias in Libya are fueling instability and committing rights abuses with impunity. Amnesty International says the militias are targeting suspected supporters of former leader Moammar Gadhafi, as well as African migrants and refugees.

Donatella Rovera, Amnesty’s senior crisis response advisor, spent several months in Libya looking into alleged abuses by militias.
One has to do with detention, unlawful detention. Basically people are being seized and detained by militias, who have neither the authority to do so and they’re keeping people in places which are also not authorized as detention centers. The pattern is they keep people for a few days, torture them and then hand them over to kind of more recognized, more semi-official detention centers,” she said.

Amnesty reported that detainees said they had been “suspended in contorted positions; beaten for hours with whips, cables, plastic hoses, metal chains and bars and wooden sticks.” Some said they had also received electric shocks.

The other area of concern, she said, is the “hunting down and taking revenge” on people or communities that militias suspected of supporting Gadhafi.

“They take them out of their homes. Burn down their houses,” she said.

Sub-Saharans

During the fighting to topple Gadhafi last year, sub-Saharan African migrants and refugees became targets of stigma, discrimination and violence. Many accused them of being mercenaries fighting on behalf of the former Libyan leader.

“At the beginning of the crisis, there was the vastly exaggerated propaganda for which the highest level of the National Transitional Council should take some responsibility because they largely contributed to that unfounded propaganda,” she said.

Reports circulated of tens of thousands of sub-Saharan mercenaries.

“Today we know that that was not the case. There might have been some for sure, but we’re talking very small numbers. That irresponsible propaganda had the direct consequences of having African migrants being hunted down and killed and hanged off bridges and public buildings by the then rebels,” she said.

Rovera said that “problem has subsided” because the International Organization for Migration spent much of last year evacuating sub-Saharans out of Libya. But she says now there’s a new problem.

“People come through Libya on their way, hopefully, to Europe. And they get stuck in Libya. At the moment, their cases are being dealt with in a fairly arbitrary fashion. Most of them are there illegally, unauthorized, and nothing much happens. Others get detained and they, too, get tortured,” said Rovera.

Reported torture deaths

“We’ve had more than reports. We investigated about 12 cases and I know that there are more, but that’s the cases we’ve looked into since September. What is of great concern is that not even in cases like that have the authorities initiated any investigation. I’m not aware of a single case where the authorities have investigated. It’s this kind of impunity that makes militias feel that they are above the law because indeed they are at the moment. And that encourages further abuses,” she said.

Rovera said Amnesty has frequently made its concerns known to Libyan authorities.

“Every time they say that they will investigate. What is then lacking is the investigations themselves. You know, the promises have been there. The fulfillment of those promises is for now no.’ she said.

However, the Amnesty adviser said it’s fair to say the current authorities are facing many challenges. “It’s not easy to take the guns off the streets and we understand that. The militias are becoming more entrenched in their above the law attitude. The verdict is that unless action is going to be taken, these kinds of abuses are not going to stop magically by themselves.”

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Lessons for Iranian leaders in their upcoming negotiations with west:


Qaddafi who traded off his nukes with lifting of sanctions:

And compare with it with the funeral of Kim Jong Il of North Korea who chose to be under sanctions and still have the nuclear weapons at his disposal:

Gaddafi did not get to build a stronger military.

 

[VelocuR]

Libyan deserved it after they betrayed Pakistan's nuclear cooperation and black markets. Bastard Gaddafi and threatened to use Euro currency on oil/gold !

I must say again, Libyan deserved this!

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Libyan deserved it after they betrayed Pakistan's nuclear cooperation and black markets. Bastard Gaddafi and threatened to use Euro currency on oil/gold !

I must say again, Libyan deserved this!

Pakistan-North Korea friendship anyone ?