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Learn from China: Malaysian ex-PM tells India

I've been to India before.

You're a country of many languages, many castes but one race. You're all Indian race.

Malaysia is a country of many languages, religion and races.

But perhaps you're right. It's a very different scenario. Especially the population and size of the country aspect. After all, you would know better about your country than I would.

And yes, we do have tribals in Sarawak, they're kind of a tourist attraction these days :lol:

i doubt that. India is a nation of many races and ethnic groups.

World Population: RACIAL GROUPS OF INDIA

South Asian ethnic groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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i think u don't know abt voting process in india. no one can know who has voted for whom. many ppl do take money from both sides but in the end it is their choice because they know no one will get to know for whom they have voted.

That's the problem, any sort of bribery is unacceptable in the democratic process no matter who they vote for. What it shows is that the general consensus for bribery is acceptable in that society. If the masses are doing it can they expect differently from their leaders?
 
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I have been to India a couple of times including a backpacking trip to South and North India.

I know how "diverse" your country is. Personally, I don't find the people as diverse as being said here.

India is a uniquely beautiful place though, I'll not deny that.

i would suggest u to visit Ladakh, kashmir, himachal, north east india, tribal areas in central india, remote islands of andaman & nicobar islands & siddi community in Gujarat. ur perception will change for sure.
 
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The notion that retail FDI will affect small shop keepers is far fetched. Only 4% of Indian retail is organized, rest 96% is still ruled by small kirana shops. And more over these Giant retailers like Walmart & Tesco are coming to prime locations in metros only, where small shop keepers dont exist anyway

Yes, a lot of naysayers existed in 1991 too. Even a couple of movies were based on this theme, like that 97 movie "Gupt". Its just fear of competition. Its not like Walmart is going to be set up in villages and towns.
 
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That's the problem, any sort of bribery is unacceptable in the democratic process no matter who they vote for. What it shows is that the general consensus for bribery is acceptable in that society. If the masses are doing it can they expect differently from their leaders?

i agree that bribery is unacceptable but it do not affect the democratic process of electing leaders, other than that it is not as massive as u are saying. most ppl have only heard abt these things but never encountered anything.
 
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i agree that bribery is unacceptable but it do not affect the democratic process of electing leaders, other than that it is not as massive as u are saying. most ppl have only heard abt these things but never encountered anything.

The idea that bribery doesn't affect the democratic process is a problem itself. A democratic government is a reflection of it's people, you get what you give.
 
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Ridiculous logic.

Malaysia is a multi-racial society with quite a number of minority Chinese and Indians. We are more diversed than India.

Everyone will have their rights in a centralized government if they consider themselves Malaysian first, above anything else.

You are very lucky if your assessment is correct with malaysian context......But unfortunately....indian politicians are not so smart to cultivate the same in indian peoples mind...they will always cultivate about your religion/caste/minority 1st ...that is why India is still lagging behind China is various aspect of development...
 
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China became a central state in 300 BC. india became a central state in the 1950's. Shining india is 2250 years behind China. They'll never catch up to us.
 
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China became a central state in 300 BC. india became a central state in the 1950's. Shining india is 2250 years behind China. They'll never catch up to us.


serioulsy dude ? What is your mental age ?? 4 ?
 
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New Delhi: Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohammad said that India needed a much stronger Central Government and less powerful federal structure to make rapid economic progress.

"India would be like China if it was little less democratic," Mahatir said

in New Delhi on Friday at the Hindustan Times Leadership Summit while speaking on the topic Challenges of Change in the 21st Century.

Claiming that Singapore has done tremendously well in the economic sphere because of limited democracy, Mahatir said that sometimes democracy can paralyse Parliament.

"We can't force countries to accept democracy even if it's the best form of governance," he said.

His comments on democracy hindering India's economic growth comes during a period of stalemate in Parliament over the Central Government's decision to allow foreign direct investment in multi-brand retail.

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sorry,no thanks for your advice!
 
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China became a central state in 300 BC. india became a central state in the 1950's. Shining india is 2250 years behind China. They'll never catch up to us.

the aim is not to match china, Indians want to be strong enough to deny china an opportunity to bully us. And pulling our people out of poverty gives us enough money to do just that.
 
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Learn from China: Malaysian ex-PM tells India

Updated Dec 02, 2011 at 01:36pm IST

It is true and i completely agree with him we in India need to learn a lot from China. :china: Respect them for what they are and how they work. Just amazing.
 
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Found a longer version of the article:

India could be China if it was less democratic: Mahathir

Former Malaysian Prime Minister, Tun Dr. Mahathir bin Mohamad, who was the keynote speaker at HT Leadership Summit 2011 on Friday, said India could be China in terms of development if it was “less democratic”. Mohamad, who transformed Malaysia from being a small rubber exporter to one of Asia’s “tiger economies”, said India needed a much stronger central government and a powerful federal structure, but less powerful provincial governments to be able to make rapid economic progress.

The comments cut at the core of India’s current logjam and resistance to allow foreign direct investment in multi-brand retailing.

“Democracy does not always ensure stability and prosperity. He said that though democracy is the best form of government, it is not the easiest because people do not understand the limitations of democracy,” Mohamad.

Mohamad, who towered over his country’s politics for over two decades, is remembered for his colourful personality, frequent barbs at the West, and the authoritarian manner in which he implemented his pro-market reforms that saw Malaysia’s rise as an economic power.

“It is important for the world to understand the limitations of democracy,” he said. “Too much democracy, without understanding the responsibilities, can obstruct decision-making,” he said, later during an exclusive multimedia interview for hindustantimes.com.

A keen observer of Asian politics, Mohamad cited the example of Singapore, which had done very well economically because of limited democracy.

“Sometimes democracy can paralyse decision-making,” he said to a round of applause since it resonated with the audience, especially in view of the current deadlock in Parliament over allowing FDI in multi-brand retail.

Asked if he had any suggestion to make to the Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh, Mahathir said he ought firmly sell his policies he believed in.

India could be China if it was less democratic: Mahathir - Hindustan Times
 
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our people chose democracy, and we're plenty satisfied with it (working to improve it too). thanks for the advice though.
 
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