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LCA Mk.2 Operational Clearance Not Before 2022 !!

I really don't know what Cobham is doing here, we had other options.

its not encouraging to hear that even after 3 delays we r not looking for alternative solutions,,,but thn again I believe delay is more thn just for the quartz cone n probe.

If you have gone for probe and drouge then you are stuck. Simple
 
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but bro still it has taken 20 yrs after funds started flowing, any how private sector opening to defense is the solution and way forward now

The project for design and development of Light combat Aircraft (LCA), Tejas Mk-II was sanctioned in November 2009 at a cost of Rs.2431.55 Crore with Probable Date of Completion (PDC) of December 2018. However, because of delay in finalisation of Engine Contract, the project could start only in December 2013. As a result, maiden flight of first Prototype and Operational Clearance are likely to be completed by December 2019 and December 2022, respectively. There after induction.

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Tejas Mk-II project started in December 2013 and the first prototype and operational clearance likely to be completed by December 2019.

20 years from where ? o_O
 
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its not encouraging to hear that even after 3 delays we r not looking for alternative solutions,,,but thn again I believe delay is more thn just for the quartz cone n probe.


That's the only thing that need to be check out from the list for FOC. Everything is done, BVR trials is/will be going on.

but bro still it has taken 20 yrs after funds started flowing, any how private sector opening to defense is the solution and way forward now

That's not bad at all. Compare it to other aerospace industry's programs.
 
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Technologies, systems engineering and experience gained during development of LCA Tejas Mk-II would benefit the development of Fifth Generation Aircraft indigenously.
 
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Dude, how is a failure tell me, Its delayed ya Damn Delayed... Why the mk2 is taking time is because IAF is not some poor unprofessional Force, they want their fighter to be in certain level. Tejas mk1 except the radar is itself once of the best in its class in south Asia, and the radar problem will be taken care with new AESA ones. But still why IAF don't want them ??? Becasue it doesn't meet their Specification and almost all of them will be met in MK2 but for DRDO standards it'll take time.

If your so professional air force keep changing requirements then in future this design will be obsolete as 5th Gen will be common thing when LCA will be ready so late around 2035 (if IAF keep delaying it).
 
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For GOD sake please accept your failure, end this project and move on. South Korean Light fighter can be good alternate.
lol the F-16 which rejected by. F-16 after it get failed in Trails is the main plane for PAF ..... so now you can judge the level of planes required.

If your so professional air force keep changing requirements then in future this design will be obsolete as 5th Gen will be common thing when LCA will be ready so late around 2035 (if IAF keep delaying it).
well environment is changing and Tejas will evolve , Right now in the learning curve , after that any changes will be implement faster rate , once all things are In place.
 
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Would u like me to show u how much pakistani contribution has gone into it??
Being a senior member,at least research it and then tell me why are u so happy??

We have yet to reach the foc for mk1 but is there any comparison between lca and jf-17 as far as domestic contribution from india and pakistan goes??

It takes courage to admit the truth and u guys don't have it.
Actually it takes courage and self esteem to appreciate an accomplishment of another.. and Indians like you have zilch..

At the end of the day, the Tejas is a prime example of a FUBAR development project. Like a Mango that was left too long on the tree and frantic attempts are being made to try and somehow use genetic methods to fix it.

It was a fine design, a fine idea.. but like it or not.. the Indian R&D mentality along with the IAF's own mistrust of local products(not unfounded) have left the project going in circles.

Any further posts with the .. pardon my french.. Chu*** idea on the JF-17s origins without knowledge will lead to that member being restricted to stupid and funny for the next two months before they learn intellectual honestly.
 
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Actually it takes courage and self esteem to appreciate an accomplishment of another.. and Indians like you have zilch..

At the end of the day, the Tejas is a prime example of a FUBAR development project. Like a Mango that was left too long on the tree and frantic attempts are being made to try and somehow use genetic methods to fix it.

It was a fine design, a fine idea.. but like it or not.. the Indian R&D mentality along with the IAF's own mistrust of local products(not unfounded) have left the project going in circles.

Any further posts with the .. pardon my french.. Chu*** idea on the JF-17s origins without knowledge will lead to that member being restricted to stupid and funny for the next two months before they learn intellectual honestly.
yep very true , especially when Indian developing the 5th Gen plane along with Russia in JV , same as line of PAK JV.

It was very first attempt to design and develop planes. faced lot of problem and technologies develop for the Tejas can be used in other planes in future.

like On board Oxygen Generators , which is developed for Tejas and now can be used in all other planes. While if you see JFT do not have OBS and haven't able to develop.

Radar , India developing its own AESA radar, again For Tejas which help in other planes. Once the technology mature , the future platform will be develop easily.

like one chopper developed , it followed by easy development of LCH and single engine chopper. the same will be done in planes also.

As far as IAF concerned , they do not take plane other then full battle ready. If you seen the contest , they rejected the F-16 due to failed in many parameter, especially in Cold trials. Which is the work house of PAF but do not find fit in IAF quality parameters.
 
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It may be the best of the best for the rest of times, but the question is, does it work?

Radar of Mk1 is Elta 2032 Multi-mode Radar Better than Any Other PAF Currently operates

and where is MK1?


Who Care What you Believe.I Understand that PAF With Its Low End Budget Couldn't Afford High-End Fighter with Western Avionics They Bound to Settled For 2nd best Like Always


if you din't Notice its LCA MK2 not Mk1
 
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yep very true , especially when Indian developing the 5th Gen plane along with Russia in JV , same as line of PAK JV.

It was very first attempt to design and develop planes. faced lot of problem and technologies develop for the Tejas can be used in other planes in future.

like On board Oxygen Generators , which is developed for Tejas and now can be used in all other planes. While if you see JFT do not have OBS and haven't able to develop.

Radar , India developing its own AESA radar, again For Tejas which help in other planes. Once the technology mature , the future platform will be develop easily.

like one chopper developed , it followed by easy development of LCH and single engine chopper. the same will be done in planes also.

As far as IAF concerned , they do not take plane other then full battle ready. If you seen the contest , they rejected the F-16 due to failed in many parameter, especially in Cold trials. Which is the work house of PAF but do not find fit in IAF quality parameters.

Considering the latest was that the IAF was not satisfied with the level of development of PAK-FA... sure

Please see news on JF OBGOS development before commenting again.

As far the as IAF is concerned, they conducted a workhorse known as the MKI whose screens shut off mid flight and its ejection system keeps having faults.. so your statement just means as much as Malaika sherawat claiming she is a virgin.
 
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Dude, Your JF is flying becasue its developed by China not Pakistan, What you should do is start a project and build a fighter from Scratch then you've to make such a statement and compare it to ours
as if LCA is as 'indigenous' as Indian claimed``French airframe design, russian weapon, Italian, Israeli and American's avionics, radar, FBW system and engine````nothing is Indian origin (maybe the paints) ```` its a compete joke project
 
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Age can not with her said Shakespeare.....
So in all essence Tejas should be designated....... Cleopatra.
Or perhaps it's the best stealth aircraft ever produced.... even after two decades it remains invisible.[/QUOTE]



:omghaha:
Almost fell of my chair, have to admit, this was probably your best joke :tup:.

BC.
 
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as if LCA is as 'indigenous' as Indian claimed``French airframe design, russian weapon, Italian, Israeli and American's avionics, radar, FBW system and engine````nothing is Indian origin (maybe the paints) ```` its a compete joke project
if it was french air frame design it would had not faced any aerodynamic problems, do u even have an AtoA missile of ur own???we have astra, if u dont have the best get the best, kaveri failed due to these foreign maal lovers and our 9-5 job scientists, air frame, design, half of the avionics, landing gear, fly by wire, paints (hmm that is surely indigenous).....u toh even have to import paint........pilot, flight controls and interface is indigenous, pluse doppler multimode radar is ours,on board oxygen generators is ours....,digital flight control computer is ours,HUD is developed by us ADE...and much more can u develop even an 150cc engine for a bike?????8-)
 
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Considering the latest was that the IAF was not satisfied with the level of development of PAK-FA... sure

Please see news on JF OBGOS development before commenting again.

As far the as IAF is concerned, they conducted a workhorse known as the MKI whose screens shut off mid flight and its ejection system keeps having faults.. so your statement just means as much as Malaika sherawat claiming she is a virgin.
that was already solve . S/w patch update , and those problem was on Russian origin Screen . Now Screes are Made in India with Indian technology.

Their is no news on OBGOS , as far as BK-II is concerned . Please show me link, would like to see.
 
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