Korean navy building a $6 billion dedicated Anti-China naval fleet by 2016

[haidian]

No, Korea would have two front line fleets. While the first fleet(of 12 ships) can be deployed anywhere on earth, the second fleet(10 ships) will operate exclusively in the Yellow/East China Sea. This is why the second fleet lacks the amphibious assault capability of the first one.

how come the N.Korean subs can that easily sink your ship and killed so many your sailors.

 

[kawaraj]

New naval fleet to defend Korean islets of Dokdo, Ieodo

This is weired rat thinking. Takeshima is part of Japan, if not the current US presence agaist China and Russia in the world, Korea may not exit, let along this island.

Pathetic chest thumping from a underdog small nation, they will go back to their tragic usual days soon as Uncle Sam retreat.

 

[haidian]

They will last 7 days according to the current war plan.

really,but according to Analysis from Time magazine,N.Korea can wipe the S.Korea off the face of the earth in one hour.

When North and South Korea trade artillery rounds, as they did this past Tuesday, killing four and injuring at least 16, some panicked hyperbole is understandable. First, there's the unfortunate geography—the opponents' capitals are just 120 miles apart, with Seoul within 35 miles of the border. The numbers only get worse, with estimates of as many as 13,000 artillery pieces positioned along that border, many of them within range and presumably aimed directly at Seoul, one of the world's most densely-populated cities. Factor in the rate of fire of all those suspected artillery batteries, and throw in the potential launch of hundreds of missiles, and it's easy to conclude that if North Korea is pushed hard enough, the result could be, as the New York Times put it yesterday, "the destruction of Seoul."

The more common term for the potential fate of the South Korean capital, casually dropped on recent radio and television news reports, as well as in two separate AOL news op-eds from earlier this year, is that it would be "flattened." Analysis from Time magazine in 2003 went so far as to gauge how long this would take: "Its conventional artillery capability would allow North Korea to flatten Seoul in the first half-hour of any confrontation."

North Korea Has 70,000 Cannons Targeted at Seoul
Nov 28, 2010 10:17 GMT; Last Modified: Nov 28, 2010 10:31 GMT

As the US South Korean naval exercise begins, North Korea deployed surface to surface missiles in the Yellow Sea, and also moved other missiles further south. The North Koreans have vowed that any trespassing of their borders, through land, air or sea, will meet a strong response.

And even without these latest movements, North Korea has a massive artillery array of 70,000 cannons pointed to Seoul – South Korea’s capital, which is very close to the border. A full utilization of this artillery could destroy Seoul withing hours.

MAP OF THE DAY: How North Korean Artillery Could Level Seoul In Two Hours
MAP OF THE DAY: How North Korean Artillery Could Level Seoul In Two Hours

 

[kawaraj]

Japan is offering to sell to and jointly develop new weapons with Korea today.

I loled. Japan will never "jointly develop" with a former colony inferior nation. Know what is PR if you talk about the recent policy shift in weapon export.

 

[Gold1010]

Peoples responses are jokes.

 

[haidian]

Well, PLA Navy can't pull off such an attack because Chinese subs are so noisy according to the US Navy.

oh,really?according to the US Navy?

Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

By MATTHEW HICKLEY - More by this author » Last updated at 00:13am on 10th November 2007


When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

Uninvited guest: A Chinese Song Class submarine, like the one that sufaced by the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.

The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.

And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.

It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.

Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".

The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.

Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.

Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.

He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.

"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."

In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time

 

[Determined Tiger]

Well, PLA Navy can't pull off such an attack because Chinese subs are so noisy according to the US Navy.

By your clownish childish logic, I could say:

If North Korea could sink your most modern war ships so easily, the PLAN could sink your whole puny nation deep into to the ocean not a too heavy job!!!

 

[oct605032048]

By your clownish childish logic, I could say:

If North Korea could sink your most modern war ships so easily, the PLAN could sink your whole puny nation deep into to the ocean not a too heavy job!!!

Touche !

 

[Adnan Faruqi]

congratulations to Korea.

 

[Star√ation]

I loled. Japan will never "jointly develop" with a former colony inferior nation. Know what is PR if you talk about the recent policy shift in weapon export.

Calling other nation inferior is mere disgusting and uneducated.
Where the heck do you come from? Are you supposed be be "superior"?

 

[haidian]

he is from Pakistan,China's best friend.we will help each other to take care of India,and we will help N.Korea to take care of S.Korea and we can take care of Vietnam by ourselves,Vietnam is the weakest country among all China's neighbors.

 

[SinoChallenger]

how come the N.Korean subs can that easily sink your ship and killed so many your sailors.

Deep down South Koreans are scared of North Korea but they brag about how brave and powerful they are! Two mega-fleets for South Korea. Soon it will rival British and American.

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New naval fleet to defend Korean islets of Dokdo, Ieodo

This is weired rat thinking. Takeshima is part of Japan, if not the current US presence agaist China and Russia in the world, Korea may not exit, let along this island.

Pathetic chest thumping from a underdog small nation, they will go back to their tragic usual days soon as Uncle Sam retreat.

The South Koreans want to take Takeshima too? Watch Japan punish them like what happend to their grandparents / great-grandparents.

 

[kevinx]

Before 2015(or even later, as the handover of command has been delayed for several times), the ROK/U.S. Combined Forces Command (CFC) is the warfighting headquarters in ROK. The CFC is commanded by a four-star U.S. general, with a four-star ROK Army general as deputy commander.

In that case, it is an immediate war with the United States if attack ROK. Hence, it really doesn't matter how many fleets ROK dedicated to combat with China, or whether those ships are all Sejong the Great aegis or small fishing boats. Chinese are not that silly to challenge US naval supremacy on West Pacific in foreseeable future. It is highly unlikely any high sea conflict will involve both countries in near future.

Except naval battle, there is no real threat posed by ROK to China, as long as DPRK still exists. As a matter of fact, China and ROK are NOT neighboring countries whatsoever. Before "deter", terrify us, make sure that DPRK doesn't offence again, we have no idea what younger Kim think, we really don't.

 

[kevinx]

ROK's only and greatest weapon is US-Korea Alliance.
It is more than enough to protect ROK.
Without US protection/DPRK involved(presumably, I know it is quite unrealistical), ROK can't even stand a round of SRBM attack. Trust me, though SM-3 and Aegis is good, thoese systems stand no chance in front of thousands of SRBMs(moreover, without US involved, where do you get data?)
ROK is NOT an independent country by some means. It just become more entertaining to see more and more Koreans brags everywhere to show off new toys in ROK armed force, oh sorry, the ROK augmentation for combined ROK/US forces.

 

[gambit]

ROK's only and greatest weapon is US-Korea Alliance.
It is more than enough to protect ROK.
Without US protection/DPRK involved(presumably, I know it is quite unrealistical), ROK can't even stand a round of SRBM attack. Trust me, though SM-3 and Aegis is good, thoese systems stand no chance in front of thousands of SRBMs(moreover, without US involved, where do you get data?)
ROK is NOT an independent country by some means. It just become more entertaining to see more and more Koreans brags everywhere to show off new toys in ROK armed force, oh sorry, the ROK augmentation for combined ROK/US forces.

Why should we? What military experience do YOU have to give you the gall to say that phrase?