King Abdullah shows solidarity with Pak over Siachin tragedy

[Serpentine]

So wat do you think? Iranian agencies aren't involved in killings in Pakistan, You know wat just avoid that time when we lose our patient. We don't want to hurt our pro-irani Pakistani brothers thats why we don't partcipate in any debate of Arab vs Iran. but their are lot more facts are hidden here.

What facts?I respect the Pakistani members too.
But a lot of Iranian soldiers also have been killed by armed group coming from Pakistani territory.Yeah it's true,we all have something to say.
Just don't continue this argument,i don't want this topic to be closed.

 

[Desert Fox]

Iranian soldiers killing Pakistani innocents?Am i missing something here?Please don't flame the debate.Just talk about topic.
I have many things in my mind too,but i won't tell it for the sake of topic and forum.

I don't want to derail the thread but there were cases where Iranian border guards opened fire on Pakistanis and killed them, which i believe was a wrong thing to do and instead they should have apprehended them rather than kill them.

But considering the fact that the area where this incident took place is plagued by drug smugglers, human traffickers, weapons smugglers, and armed militants (BLA and Jundullah) not to mention the stress on the border guards, it is really hard to determine whether or not if someone is a innocent civilian or a armed militant (not justifying the killings!).

The only solution to prevent such incidents from taking place in the future is to increase security on both sides of the border and increase cooperation between the border security personnel of both countries.

 

[Edevelop]

As a Pakistani born in Saudi Arabia, most of my heart still goes towards Iran.

 

[Desert Fox]

The point everyone is skirting around is very simple. This Arab could not even deliver a message of condolence for our martyrs. His mind was on making a point which in any event is a lie that some Pakistani's celebrate the death of Saudi Muslims. I can but only come to the conclusion that this Arab is intellectually challenged.

Come on bro, we shouldn't get personal, i think we've all had enough of this nonsensical bickering between each other, and besides i've already gotten a few warnings from the Mods.

 

[Serpentine]

I don't want to derail the thread but there were cases where Iranian border guards opened fire on Pakistanis and killed them, which i believe was a wrong thing to do and instead they should have apprehended them rather than kill them.

But considering the fact that the area where this incident took place is plagued by drug smugglers, human traffickers, weapons smugglers, and armed militants (BLA and Jundullah) not to mention the stress on the border guards, it is really hard to determine whether or not if someone is a innocent civilian or a armed militant.

The only solution to prevent such incidents from taking place in the future is to increase security on both sides of the border and increase cooperation between the border security personnel of both countries.

I didn't know about the incident,while i send my condolences to the ones who have been killed,we can't completely blame Iranian soldiers for it.You know better than me that how many times Jundallah terrorists have crossed the border and killed many Iranian border guards and soldiers,just in one incident,they beheaded 19 soldiers.

 

[ZABASHO]

I dont want to derail the thread, and sorry if I mistakenly do so, but when has ever KSA "actually" stood by and supported Pakistan in any major development/incident?

 

[Desert Fox]

As a Pakistani born in Saudi Arabia, my heart still goes towards Iran.

Lets not turn this thread int a Iran vs Arab mudslinging contest.

In respect to our soldiers who lost their lives at Siachen while guarding the frontiers of our nation, we should at least show gratitude to King Abdullah and the Saudi nation for expressing their condolences over our tragic loss.

I dont want to derail the thread, and sorry if I mistakenly do so, but when has ever KSA "actually" stood by and supported Pakistan in any major development/incident?

They have actually, during the floods and the earthquake, we should at least be grateful to them for the times they have assisted us when we needed them most. However, i do want an end to the "charity" given to the madrassahs which churn out terrorists (brainwashed innocent little kids). Of course, this in no way indicates that i'm blaming all Saudis for funding terrorists, however there is money being channeled from the Gulf countries and into the madrassahs which i think is a matter our government should take up with the governments of the Gulf countries.

 

[Icarus]

I'm sorry if you think that way Mosa. I can't see why people have to choose sides between Iran and Saudia Arabia as if they were neighbourhood cricket teams. I wish for brotherly relations with both countries!

 

[Desert Fox]

I didn't know about the incident,while i send my condolences to the ones who have been killed,we can't completely blame Iranian soldiers for it.You know better than me that how many times Jundallah terrorists have crossed the border and killed many Iranian border guards and soldiers,just in one incident,they beheaded 19 soldiers.

I agree, which is why i stated in my previous post: "But considering the fact that the area where this incident took place is plagued by drug smugglers, human traffickers, weapons smugglers, and armed militants (BLA and Jundullah) not to mention the stress on the border guards, it is really hard to determine whether or not if someone is a innocent civilian or a armed militant."

the only solution IMO is to increase security check posts and monitor the border closely, not to mention we must increase the cooperation between the security personnel of both countries.

 

[Arabian Legend]

I dont want to derail the thread, and sorry if I mistakenly do so, but when has ever KSA "actually" stood by and supported Pakistan in any major development/incident?

its because your ignorance you have no idea about ksa- pakistan relationship. so please don't drill this thread as indian always do.

 

[Edevelop]

Lets not turn this thread int a Iran vs Arab mudslinging contest.

In respect to our soldiers who lost their lives at Siachen while guarding the frontiers of our nation, we should at least show gratitude to King Abdullah and the Saudi nation for expressing their condolences over our tragic loss.

There is one thing i'm concerned about. Why don't Saudis express condolences when dozen Pak army soldeirs die almost every other day in their war on terror?

It was a coincidence to see one of the members of royal family in Pakistan. Have they had phone called us from their country?

This is from the article:

Prince Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz expressed his concerns on behalf of the King, the government and people of Saudi Arabia on the tragedy in Siachen and offered all-out help to the Pakistani brothers in such difficult times.

 

[Patriot]

-------------nevermind-------------

 

[Desert Fox]

your support for Pakistanis is visible..... using the 4 letter racial slur to address them!

anyways, my question in genuine curiosity was addressed to my Pakistani brethren, seeing you are not one of them, so keep off the personal attacks for now.

Since when did we become your "brethren", seriously who are you kidding?

You indians are really good at playing this game.

Right now we are your "brethren" but on another thread you will be bashing us.

 

[ZABASHO]

Since when did we become your "brethren", seriously who are you kidding?

You indians are really good at playing this game.

Right now we are your "brethren" but on another thread you will be bashing us.

show me one of mine where such is the case..... (posts on politicians or terrorists excluding)

 

[Desert Fox]

not to undermine their contributions in assisting Pakistan, but so did India, India assisted Pakistan in those times too....... y special mention always finds its way for KSA in Pakistan, while India goes down in the blame game etc...

anyways just a thought, no reply needed, I think its going off topic.

If indeed india did help us during our tragic and difficult times then i'm thankful to the indian government and its people and i hope that Pakistanis can return the favor when the time arises.