King Abdullah II of Jordan arrives in Islamabad

[SQ8]

He is Sufiyani, Not Seyyed.

He’s Not even a muslim. he has british mother.

What does having a British mother have to do with Muslim?
By your logic all Muslims converts are not muslim?

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

I give great credit to Gen Zia Ul Haq to have the vision to see what the palestinians fidayeen were going to do to Jordan---for many a years terrorists organizations kept quiet.

It is just like what Afghan refugees in pakistan have been doing in pakistan---drugs---guns---terror---homicides---.

But then he lost that foresight---when the afghan refugees came into pakistan---he should have kept them in the camps rather than giving them free reigns to the country---.

So---Zia was smart at that time---he crushed the head of the snake.

The chaos that we see in world now---it is the creation of the STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICANS---.

They are absolutely DUMB WARRIORS when it comes to fighting terrorists organizations---they are so stupid---they have absolutely no concept of what needs to be done---even though they have been at it for the last 17 years now---.

The americans fight the terrs like if they are fighting against a regular army---. The americans have no planing---no understanding of the battle---no concept of warfare even after all these years---I mean to say---their stupidity is beyond any comprehension---.

This can happen when you have ar-se kissing media and Generals who have media campaign teams on their staff to make them look good---there is very little chance of learning---.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Funny how Pakistan Army also adopted large parts of American COIN strategy and achieved a lot of success.

Hi,

I give great credit to Gen Zia Ul Haq to have the vision to see what the palestinians fidayeen were going to do to Jordan---for many a years terrorists organizations kept quiet.

It is just like what Afghan refugees in pakistan have been doing in pakistan---drugs---guns---terror---homicides---.

But then he lost that foresight---when the afghan refugees came into pakistan---he should have kept them in the camps rather than giving them free reigns to the country---.

So---Zia was smart at that time---he crushed the head of the snake.

The chaos that we see in world now---it is the creation of the STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICANS---.

They are absolutely DUMB WARRIORS when it comes to fighting terrorists organizations---they are so stupid---they have absolutely no concept of what needs to be done---even though they have been at it for the last 17 years now---.

The americans fight the terrs like if they are fighting against a regular army---. The americans have no planing---no understanding of the battle---no concept of warfare even after all these years---I mean to say---their stupidity is beyond any comprehension---.

This can happen when you have ar-se kissing media and Generals who have media campaign teams on their staff to make them look good---there is very little chance of learning---.

 

[Enigma_]

So what happened? Any deals or did he just come to eat a free meal?

 

[MastanKhan]

Funny how Pakistan Army also adopted large parts of American COIN strategy and achieved a lot of success.

Hi,

Look at the losses we have suffered---if we had killed the majrity of them on the slopes of tora Bora or Killed Bin laden and his troops in AFG before the americans struck---we would not have had this problem.

Why we have more success now---because it is on our own land---. If such a thing was happening on mainland usa---you would see a different u s military in action.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Yup, in Afghanistan Americans and NATO generally kept up their luxurious mindset and didn't want to risk too much men and treasure so as a result their gains were/are also very very limited.

Hi,

Look at the losses we have suffered---if we had killed the majrity of them on the slopes of tora Bora or Killed Bin laden and his troops in AFG before the americans struck---we would not have had this problem.

Why we have more success now---because it is on our own land---. If such a thing was happening on mainland usa---you would see a different u s military in action.

 

[Zhukov]

I am more happy to see Sir Mamnuun Hussain again after so long, then Dwarf King Abdullah II, in this thread.
Last time President saab was in news he bashed his own beloved PM afterwhich Downfall of NS started. Lets see what happens after this appearence

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

He should have gone straight to Zia's grave and pay tribute for his services to Jordan and his father.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

Zia did all this to get noticed by the Freemasons. He was appreciated by the Israeli Generals and was about to face a Court Martial in Pakistan but was saved by Lt Gen Gul Hassan. Or you can say the Masonic Generals in GHQ since Lodge wasn't banned till yet. He was plotted to become COAS since Masonic Generals lobbied for Zia towards Bhutto, calling him a religious man who had no interest in Politics. Bhutto banned the lodge and was brought to his fate by Zia the Religious mason.

Do read Unlikely Beginnings by Maj Gen Mitha and Bhutto ke Akhri 323 Din by Col Rafiuddin. Nusrat Bhutto met Zia and begged him to spare Bhutto but Zia replied, "I can do anything but can't leave Bhutto alive". He was totally ordered by the Masters to execute at all cost.

Everyone read this and STFU . Regardless you like Zia or not dont use his wrongly extrapolated services in Jordan to malign the nation.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/print/253919-zia-and-the-palestinians

President Zia’s air crash, like other political deaths in Pakistan, still remains a mystery. His personality and policies evoke extreme comments and emotions, based on a thicket of fact and fiction. One such subject is Zia’s alleged role in the killing of Palestinian in September 1970 in Jordan (“Black September”). There have been fanciful scenarios. The facts are as follows, based on my personal observations and involvement, because I held the charge of the mission in the ambassador’s absence.

Following the June 1967 military debacle, the Arabs requested Pakistan for military training. Pakistan sent training contingents to Syria, Jordan and Iraq. The mission in Jordon consisted of some 20 senior officers drawn from the three services. The team was led by Maj Gen Nawazish Ali, assisted by Brig Ziaul Haq (Armoured Corps), Brig Iftikhar Rana (Artillery), and Col Yaseen Malik (Infantry). The air force was led by Commodore Anwar Shameem, who later became chief of the PAF.

The team’s mandate was limited to training the formations of the Jordanian Defence Forces and had no combat role. In June 1970, an antiaircraft regiment arrived in Amman at the request of King Hussein for the protection of Jordan’s air space against violations by Israeli and Syrian planes, but it had no combat role or capacity.

The presence of the Pakistan training mission against this backdrop soon pulled it into the vortex of Arab intrigues and conspiracies. Its presence was magnified and exaggerated by vested groups. Our ambassador in Delhi had cautioned us against the surreptitious induction of Indian army officers belonging to RAW in PLO and PFLP ranks. Their assignment was to sow doubts and misgivings regarding Pakistan among Palestinians.

It was Sept 2 when I received a call from Brig Zia, informing me that the king had asked him to take over the command of the 3rd Armoured Division stationed in Irbid, a town close to the Syrian border. Syria had moved with an armoured brigade into Jordan. Maj Gen Qasim Motta, the Jordanian commander, had deserted and Zia was asked to take over.

Since the ambassador and Gen Nawazish were both out of Jordan, I was chargé d’affaires, and Zia the senior-most army officer. Zia told the king that he would need political clearance from the embassy before he responded to the request. I told Zia that the contingent’s mandate was not to fight, and hence I would need permission from Islamabad.

Telephone connections were dead. There were no cipher links either. The only communication link was telex based on Morse code. After a few hours’ effort, I established contact with Foreign Secretary Sultan Mohammad Khan, who declined to give any instructions and advised me to contact the military brass. Finally, I reached Mr Ghiasuddin, then Secretary General, Defence.

To my utter horror, without a moment’s hesitance, Ghias gave me the green signal. When I tried to explain the implications, I was cut short with a brief remark: “We had Istikhara, Hashmite Kingdom’s star is ascendant [sic]. Go ahead. Follow king’s commands [sic].” That the foreign and defence policy of Pakistan was formulated not on a dispassionate analysis of the situation but on the dubious religious invocation still amazes me.

Brig Zia accordingly took over the command in Irbid, but before any major military operation could be taken the Syrians, under intense pressure from the US and Israel, withdrew. This was the sum total of Pakistan’s involvement or Zia’s role in the alleged massacre of the Palestinians.

It is generally believed that Zia had been instrumental in the killing of thousands of Palestinians and that Arafat had vowed never to trust Pakistan or forgive Zia. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Arafat visited Pakistan three times during Zia’s regime and met him at summits of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference and the Non-aligned Movement. During my assignment in Cairo as Pakistan’s ambassador (1997-1999), I had quite a few occasions to meet Arafat during Arab League meetings and found no bitterness in him about Zia’s alleged role as “Butcher of Palestinians.”

The writer is a former ambassador. Email: [email protected]

 

[Path-Finder]

Thank God you have no say in GHQ!!!!!
@Path-Finder

I see Hazrat has a new bhukhar for Jordan after SCAR one has finished. Well dont blame him Jordan has some incredibly beautiful gyals

 

[My-Analogous]

Zia did all this to get noticed by the Freemasons. He was appreciated by the Israeli Generals and was about to face a Court Martial in Pakistan but was saved by Lt Gen Gul Hassan. Or you can say the Masonic Generals in GHQ since Lodge wasn't banned till yet. He was plotted to become COAS since Masonic Generals lobbied for Zia towards Bhutto, calling him a religious man who had no interest in Politics. Bhutto banned the lodge and was brought to his fate by Zia the Religious mason.

Do read Unlikely Beginnings by Maj Gen Mitha and Bhutto ke Akhri 323 Din by Col Rafiuddin. Nusrat Bhutto met Zia and begged him to spare Bhutto but Zia replied, "I can do anything but can't leave Bhutto alive". He was totally ordered by the Masters to execute at all cost.

Sorry to say but this was not the case and your claim is no where near to the truth

 

[The Deterrent]

Still, Jordan is a fairly progressive country and the people are much nicer to us than any other Arab country.
And they do go out of their way to help us when they can.

I absolutely second that.

 

[django]

I see Hazrat has a new bhukhar for Jordan after SCAR one has finished. Well dont blame him Jordan has some incredibly beautiful gyals

I think the good Hazrat has pretty much given up on SCAR, his new infatuation seems to be force projection in mid east lol.Kudos bro

 

[Solomon2]

I am 100% convinced he is acting as a messenger between Israeli and Pakistani establishment at the moment.

I doubt it; both parties have more reliable intermediaries. Why, in D.C. the two embassies are only sixty feet apart!

On the other hand, the King may be explaining to Pakistan his strategy of fomenting antisemitism while simultaneously cooperating with Israel to enhance the security of his kingdom. He will probably try to encourage Pakistan to support his approach. I don't advise Pakistan to do so because without open and friendly relations withe the Jewish State I don't see that Pakistanis have any chance to successfully address the distortions hostility to Israel has caused to their mentality and society over the past 70+ years.

 

[Arabi]

He was interested in JF-17 with some other leaders during the Thunder of North Maneuver

 

[ziaulislam]

The Hashemite is here

Welcome Sayyidi al Hashmi



King Abdullah II is a direct descendant of the sixth-century prophet Muhammad, the Hashemites have only been monarchs of Jordan since 1946.

ye apka udhaar wapis hua

Who also murdered the turks in the holy grounds of mecca