King Abdullah II of Jordan arrives in Islamabad

[SQ8]

There is no doubt that Jordan is a puppet state of the west.

Anyone who is brought to hold power there indefinitely without the will of the people has backers. Jordan isn’t just one case of it but there are many.
Infact very few leaders in the middle east are sitting on their chair of their own accord.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Only more innovation and bida'a in Islam to needlessly make Iblis happy.

and you get any Success ? I only meet Shia's who are Syed's here in Pakistan so this King Abdullah family is Shia ?

Sir, Lineage or no Lineage .. is this something to brag about ? or feel proud of ? am i not related to Prophet Muhammad Pbuh as he and i have same Great x 100000000 grand father aka Adam A.S ? i don't understand what is this Fuss about been Syed , Siddiqui or whatever ..

 

[SQ8]

and you get any Success ? I only meet Shia's who are Syed's here in Pakistan so this King Abdullah family is Shia ?

Sir, Lineage or no Lineage .. is this something to brag about ? or feel proud of ? am i not related to Prophet Muhammad Pbuh as he and i have same Great x 100000000 grand father aka Adam A.S ? i don't understand what is this Fuss about been Syed , Siddiqui or whatever ..

I meant to say NEVER.

Point in this thread is, that King Abdullah bring Hashemite or Syed has NOTHING to do with his choices in his life or his rule.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Anyone who is brought to hold power there indefinitely without the will of the people has backers. Jordan isn’t just one case of it but there are many.
Infact very few leaders in the middle east are sitting on their chair of their own accord.

Agreed with you. But I do believe Saudi Arabia has an independent foreign policy.

Unlike Jordan which is a slave of the west.

 

[SQ8]

Only more innovation and bida'a in Islam to needlessly make Iblis happy.

Islam itself was innovative(adaptive) in the sense that it accomodated to Arab Tribal culture. Unfortunately the way Islam is recorded and taught leaves a very narrow idea of the religion and actually creates greater space for additions rather than blocking off any interpretation and interference of cultural sensibilities or imposing of personal opinions.

Agreed with you. But I do believe Saudi Arabia has an independent foreign policy.

Unlike Jordan which is a slave of the west.

Really?
Is that why they seem to echo everything the United States says and give very muted responses to generally all issues that do not effect their and US interests in general?
The Imam of Mecca was reciting the Kalima of Trump.. a man who hates Muslims and immigrants in general.
Lets not kid ourselves, the feifdoms of the middle east are indebted to the western establishment per se and require their blessings on many foriegn policy moves.

That is not to say that there isnt some independence in thought process but by far and large its a game of give and take.

 

[django]

Good in fact Great. Pakistan really needs to increase corporation with Jordan and in fact I say establish a small Military Base their with around 10000 soldiers deployed their. Also in field of education and industry corporation needs to be increased not to forget tourism.

Thank God you have no say in GHQ!!!!!
@Path-Finder

 

[BHarwana]

lol

 

[MultaniGuy]

Islam itself was innovative(adaptive) in the sense that it accomodated to Arab Tribal culture. Unfortunately the way Islam is recorded and taught leaves a very narrow idea of the religion and actually creates greater space for additions rather than blocking off any interpretation and interference of cultural sensibilities or imposing of personal opinions.


Really?
Is that why they seem to echo everything the United States says and give very muted responses to generally all issues that do not effect their and US interests in general?
The Imam of Mecca was reciting the Kalima of Trump.. a man who hates Muslims and immigrants in general.
Lets not kid ourselves, the feifdoms of the middle east are indebted to the western establishment per se and require their blessings on many foriegn policy moves.

That is not to say that there isnt some independence in thought process but by far and large its a game of give and take.

Yes but whatever Saudi Arabia is doing is what is in its national interests.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Why are so called "Syeds" only a localized Pakistani or maybe at most an Indian phenomenon then???

Islam itself was innovative(adaptive) in the sense that it accomodated to Arab Tribal culture. Unfortunately the way Islam is recorded and taught leaves a very narrow idea of the religion and actually creates greater space for additions rather than blocking off any interpretation and interference of cultural sensibilities or imposing of personal opinions.


Really?
Is that why they seem to echo everything the United States says and give very muted responses to generally all issues that do not effect their and US interests in general?
The Imam of Mecca was reciting the Kalima of Trump.. a man who hates Muslims and immigrants in general.
Lets not kid ourselves, the feifdoms of the middle east are indebted to the western establishment per se and require their blessings on many foriegn policy moves.

That is not to say that there isnt some independence in thought process but by far and large its a game of give and take.

Our ancestors became muslim but their minds were stuck in hinduism. Claiming to be Syed is just like claiming to be a Brahmin. Arabs or rather Hashemites will most likely be able to tell you their whole line of lineage through ilm ul rijaal. But can the Indo-Pakistani "Syeds" explain their whole lineage with accuracy?? I highly doubt that.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I meant to say NEVER.

Point in this thread is, that King Abdullah bring Hashemite or Syed has NOTHING to do with his choices in his life or his rule.

Agreed , but even if he is King , this guy is powerless ..

 

[SQ8]

Why are so called "Syeds" only a localized Pakistani or maybe at most an Indian phenomenon then???


Our ancestors became muslim but their minds were stuck in hinduism. Claiming to be Syed is just like claiming to be a Brahmin. Arabs or rather Hashemites will most likely be able to tell you their whole line of lineage through ilm ul rijaal. But can the Indo-Pakistani "Syeds" explain their whole lineage with accuracy?? I highly doubt that.

Very few have recorded family trees.. some are suspect. I suspect when many of these have DNA traces done they wont have too much Arab influence in them.

Agreed , but even if he is King , this guy is powerless ..

I would not say powerless, as I mentioned before: this is a dance of give and take. Various circles in a Complex Venn diagram where they can act with either complete impunity or can face severe consequences.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I would not say powerless, as I mentioned before: this is a dance of give and take. Various circles in a Complex Venn diagram where they can act with either complete impunity or can face severe consequences.

keyword ..

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Atleast you are accepting it. Other Pakistani bigots just become stubborn on their stance.

Very few have recorded family trees.. some are suspect. I suspect when many of these have DNA traces done they wont have too much Arab influence in them.


I would not say powerless, as I mentioned before: this is a dance of give and take. Various circles in a Complex Venn diagram where they can act with either complete impunity or can face severe consequences.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Is he husband of princess Farah of Pakistan.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

There is no doubt that Jordan is a puppet state of the west.

The ultimate objective/plan is to dot the entire ME with plethora of puppet city states, as if the current ones aren't puppet enough, constantly in fight with one another.....