Killing India’s hidden ‘Cold Start’ strategy

[mikkix]

Hum to nahi shuru karenge, aur na hi apni aabroo jaane denge.
Hum bhi rahenge aur hamaara Hindustan bhi rahega.

hindustan to kal bhi tha or kal bhi rahe ga per usme koi hindustani ya pakistani nahi rahe ga.

 

[sensenreason]

hindustan to kal bhi tha or kal bhi rahe ga per usme koi hindustani ya pakistani nahi rahe ga.

Ye sab goron ki chaal hai bhai saab. Hamare leaders agar ya mamala suljha lein to better rahega. Agar Bharat and Pakistan ek doosre se nahin ladegein toh na ameriki na chini ke paas koi moka hoga interfere karne ka.Problem hain hum sab ye samaj teh hain lekin ek doosre ko naa pasand karte hain.

 

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

The Cold Start strategy and Sunderji Doctrine are History. India tried them in 2002 and failed miserably. The Pakistani peace time locations are too close to the border hence in 2002 when India tested Cold Start it was the Pakistanis who were able to deploy first. The Indian went to their parliment to get approval for building new peace time locations nearer to the border but the plan was shot down. It was only then that the Army Chief gave his famous statement about India primarily being defensive.

The main difference between India and Pakistan is that in Pakistan the government listens to the armed forces and in India the armed forces listen to the government

sorry u r wrong cold start strategy was formulated after lessons of 2002. cold start did not exist in 2002.

 

[nescafe]

here is a good one, and from the think tank of general jahangir karamt

http://www.spearheadresearch.org/pages/documents/Too_Cold_to_Start.pdf

 

[Bang Galore]

here is a good one, and from the think tank of general jahangir karamt

http://www.spearheadresearch.org/pages/documents/Too_Cold_to_Start.pdf

Thanks for the link. Interesting read.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Here is Brasstacks take on Cold Start.
Cold Start | Welcome to BrassTacks

 

[Super Falcon]

welll Pakistan is not Iraq nor Afghainstan

 

[Storm Force]

Super Falcon

Before Iraqi military was decimated by NATO including 6 carrier battle groups

The iraqi military where rated the strongest in mid east and about twice the size in nos of tanks artlillary & combat planes to Pakistani current military fire power.

Iraq was a formidable military power BUT they tangled with the greatest Allied War machine in the world ie NATO.

You are correct indo pak is a far closer match up

 

[BATMAN]

Yeah, Iraq was formidable with Russian migs.

Only formidable Iraqi i know was Salahdin, who defeated many times bigger NATO with his improvisations and military experience.

 

[Storm Force]

The Last Paragraph says it all.

general jahangir karamt whom i assume is a Pakistani Think Tank or General suggests that over the next 10 years India will be in a position to intiate Cold Start successfully.

That is india end game.

If you look at all 3 services and the estimated $100 billion procuremernt plan you can see what shape and size the indians are taking

Most of the necessary equipment is on order or signed for already. But it will take UNTIL 2020 to acquire and deploy in cold start doctrine

C17 globemasters x 10
C130J transports x 16
Apache/longbow helos x 22
Indian indengiuos LAC helio x 60
Dhruv x 300
Mi17 ASSULT helos x 80 more
T90 tanks x 1600
Arjun tanks x 400
Smerch MBRL X 72
Pinka MBRL X 180
1000 bew mobile artllary order yet to be made
2 Airc raft carriers (one indengious) by 2015
Arihant nuke sub x 4 (1st in sea trials)
7 new kolkata class destroyers by 2016 1 nearing sea trials
16 talwar class/krivak class frigates by 2015 6 deplyed already
6 scorpene subs by 2014
Israel UACV
Phalcon awacs x 3 arrived 3 more ordered

*** Now i know Pakistan will respond but they will spend a fraction of $100 billion over the same period >>>

2020 cold start NOT 2011

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The Last Paragraph says it all.

general jahangir karamt whom i assume is a Pakistani Think Tank or General suggests that over the next 10 years India will be in a position to intiate Cold Start successfully.

That is india end game.

If you look at all 3 services and the estimated $100 billion procuremernt plan you can see what shape and size the indians are taking

Most of the necessary equipment is on order or signed for alread. But it will take UNTIL 2020 to acquire and deploy in cold start doctrine

C17 globemasters x 10
C130J transports x 16
Apache/longbow helos x 22
Indian indengiuos LAC helio x 60
Dhruv x 300
Mi17 ASSULT helos x 80 more
T90 tanks x 1600
Arjun tanks x 400
Smerch MBRL X 72
Pinka MBRL X 180
1000 bew mobile artllary order yet to be made
2 Airc raft carriers (one indengious) by 2015
Arihant nuke sub x 4 (1st in sea trials)
7 new kolkata class destroyers by 2016 1 nearing sea trials
16 talwar class/krivak class frigates by 2015 6 deplyed already
6 scorpene subs by 2014
Israel UACV
Phalcon awacs x 3 arrived 3 more ordered

*** Now i know Pakistan will respond but they will spend a fraction of $100 billion over the same period >>>

2020 cold start NOT 2011

India is spending money to replace half of its obsolete weapons.... understand?

Also the quote figures are garbage and fake list of maYBE kinda stuff.

 

[Storm Force]

Theres nothing fake in fact i have missed out loads like

126 mmrca

40 tejas mk1 100 mk2

Akash Sam systems

Barak Sam systems from israel

The indian military build up is MASSIVE by even global standards

YouTube - Exclusive: C-17 Globemaster for India?

Theat y tube is just one example

 

[Storm Force]

Recent excecises brazen chariots

Smerch BMRL su30mki attack helos

Indian Army & IAF showcase might in wargames - Desi Video Network

 

[ares]

Yeah, Iraq was formidable with Russian migs.

Only formidable Iraqi i know was Salahdin, who defeated many times bigger NATO with his improvisations and military experience.

This quote deserves to be framed and posted on wall of fame here!!!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If you look at all 3 services and the estimated $100 billion procuremernt plan you can see what shape and size the indians are taking

Exagerated............. ur replacing half ur obsolete equipment.

C130J transports x 16
Apache/longbow helos x 22
Arjun tanks x 400
Smerch MBRL X 72
Pinka MBRL X 180
1000 bew mobile artllary order yet to be made
Arihant nuke sub x 4 (1st in sea trials)
16 talwar class/krivak class frigates by 2015 6 deplyed already
Israel UACV

Wats this? sources