Khobragade to USA: You have lost a good friend. In return, you got a maid and drunken driver

[Hermione]

If she had her passport confiscated and she could convince a judge she worked crazy hours every day she could win the slavery argument.

But if the consulate and her husband were smart she should have cleared all this up in small claims ( read the 90% negotiated before trial statistic above) before it escalated to a felony slavery or visa charge.

This how it would have gone in small claims court
Maid: I was promised $4500 month
Judge: hmm seems a little high for 8 hours a day for a maid
Maid: Well I worked 16 hour days
Judge: a little excessive but maybe possible for a live in maid
Consulate: She agreed to $3/hr
Judge: Well that's too low
Judge: My judgement is : Calculate minimum wage * hours worked * days worked - amount paid already by the consulate.
Maid: but but she took my passport away
Judge: whatever...bring in the next case
Consulate: But that's not fair
Judge: Clear the court please and bring in the next case

Yeah right, always plead guilty. The only way to save @ZZ in USA is plead guilty. Truth does not matter.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

Yeah right, always plead guilty. The only way to save @ZZ in USA is plead guilty. Truth does not matter.

Unless you are an Indian diplomat

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Yeah right, always plead guilty. The only way to save @ZZ in USA is plead guilty. Truth does not matter.

You don't plead guilt in small claims court. It's basically an arbitration.
If you don't want to go through that then you risk a court case. Then depending upon what people dig up (like a visa problem) you end up putting yourself at risk of something bigger.

 

[Hermione]

You don't plead guilt in small claims court. It's basically an arbitration.
If you don't want to go through that then you risk a court case. Then depending upon what people dig up (like a visa problem) you end up putting yourself at risk of something bigger.

Looks like this arbitration is how USA got 2.4 million prisoners. Cant imagine what bigger risk there could be? Would all of those guys have been sent to the firing squad if their cases had gone to court?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Looks like this arbitration is how USA got 2.4 million prisoners. Cant imagine what bigger risk there could be? Would all of those guys have been sent to the firing squad if their cases had gone to court?

They risked longer sentences. If you get caught with a stolen car you'd plead guilty immediately if you knew with some checking they might find you own a property that has 10 more stolen cars on it.

 

[Hermione]

They risked longer sentences. If you get caught with a stolen car you'd plead guilty immediately if you knew with some checking they might find you own a property that has 10 more stoles cars on it.

Unless all of those prisoners are hardened criminals, I don't really see how a plea bargain works in their favor here. They risk their reputation, getting raped in prison, lose their right to vote, forget getting jobs in any reputable firms. This whole thing looks like a sick joke.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Unless all of those prisoners are hardened criminals, I don't really see how a plea bargain works in their favor here. They risk their reputation, getting raped in prison, lose their right to vote, forget getting jobs in any reputable firms. This whole thing looks like a sick joke.

Well which is better plead guilty to a lesser charge and get 6 months in jail or risk a trial and end up getting 10 years.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

Unless all of those prisoners are hardened criminals, I don't really see how a plea bargain works in their favor here. They risk their reputation, getting raped in prison, lose their right to vote, forget getting jobs in any reputable firms. This whole thing looks like a sick joke.

That is what happens when 1% of the population own 40% of the nations wealth......and the bottom 80% owns 7% of the wealth. The Jails get filled up pretty fast.

 

[Hermione]

Well which is better plead guilty to a lesser charge and get 6 months in jail or risk a trial and end up getting 10 years.

If as you say they are all at risk of 10 years or more in prison time should their case go to court, then that raises another question, what is this so called humane, human rights conscious, first world society doing that so many of its citizens are such hardcore criminals?

 

[Manvantaratruti]

If as you say they are all at risk of 10 years or more in prison time should their case go to court, then that raises another question, what is this so called humane, human rights conscious, first world society doing that so many of its citizens are such hardcore criminals?

Did you know that 10% of ALL US citizens are either in Jail or have been to Jail ?

How is that for a nation that 'respects' the law ?

 

[airpower183]

Did you know that 10% of ALL US citizens are either in Jail or have been to Jail ?

How is that for a nation that 'respects' the law ?

That is proof the rule of law is maintained. The respect for law is among the judicial process, and courts and governing institutions. The rule of law exists when somebody breaks the law, you put them in jail regardless of who they are.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

That is proof the rule of law is maintained. The respect for law is among the judicial process, and courts and governing institutions. The rule of law exists when somebody breaks the law, you put them in jail regardless of who they are.

LOL. It is the proof that it is a police state.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

If as you say they are all at risk of 10 years or more in prison time should their case go to court, then that raises another question, what is this so called humane, human rights conscious, first world society doing that so many of its citizens are such hardcore criminals?

That was just an example. You'd really have to do something serious (or more likely a being deemed a "habitual offender") to get long jail time.

If you go to trial before a judge/jury and the evidence is shown that you are obviously guilty he is more likely to hit you with the MAX sentence than if you plead guilty you more likely would get the MIN. If you are a habitual offender you may just choose the trial because you don't have much to lose because if you plead guilty the judge may give you much higher than the MIN but not the MAX.

 

[Hermione]

Did you know that 10% of ALL US citizens are either in Jail or have been to Jail ?

How is that for a nation that 'respects' the law ?

Yeah, it is unbelievable that 6.5 million Americans have been disenfranchised and deprived of their citizen rights because of convictions. Here is the making of a slave society once again. No rights. No representation.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Did you know that 10% of ALL US citizens are either in Jail or have been to Jail ?

How is that for a nation that 'respects' the law ?

I have no idea if the number is 10% or less or more. Can you at least post a link to the number it just looks like you are pulling it out of thin air.