Kerala School Drops Vande Mataram from I-Day Programme as Radical Group Objects

[trident2010]

can anyone post , Vaanday matram , and its translation ?
@nair @Ravi Nair @he-man

Its a long song but in schools we only sing 2-3 paragaphs and its as follows:

Mother, I salute thee!
Rich with thy hurrying streams,
bright with orchard gleams,
Cool with thy winds of delight,
Dark fields waving Mother of might,
Mother free.

Glory of moonlight dreams,
Over thy branches and lordly streams,
Clad in thy blossoming trees,
Mother, giver of ease
Laughing low and sweet!
Mother I kiss thy feet,
Speaker sweet and low!
Mother, to thee I salute.

Who hath said thou art weak in thy lands
When the swords flash out in seventy million hands
And seventy million voices roar
Thy dreadful name from shore to shore?
With many strengths who art mighty and stored,
To thee I call Mother and Lord!
Though who savest, arise and save!
To her I cry who ever her foeman drove
Back from plain and Sea
And shook herself free.

Thou art wisdom, thou art law,
Thou art heart, our soul, our breath
Though art love divine, the awe
In our hearts that conquers death.
Thine the strength that nerves the arm,
Thine the beauty, thine the charm.
Every image made divine
In our temples is but thine.

Mother sweet, I salute thee,
Mother great and free!

 

[Echo_419]

The problem is not with the educated class (who know wt these idiots are up to),but with the illetrate people out there ,they can easily be brainwashed.especially 'muslims'....and its not only limited to kerala,i hv seen it happen ina megacity like New Delhi as well,where youhave these mullas reach muslim students and sort of force'em to pray five times a day,saying that if they dont then they are commiting a crime(intial stages of brainwashing) ,they would sit wid them in their rooms for like an hour or half spilling their Bullshits,most of my sane muslim friends tried to avoid them but most of'em would listen to them like ppl listening to ''nirmal baba''

These Mullahs need to be tackled fast,they are even brain washing the normal folks.I am counting on the NSA since he knows the threats we face by Islamist & Iungis

 

[nair]

This is just ongoing witch hunt against Muslims in India under the premiership of democratically elected Hindu Extremist Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Do you know where is "Kerala" and have any clue what influence Mr. Modi has in Kerala?????? When you dono anything about the subject, the best option is to keep quiet.....

 

[Nova2]

The case is under process, That was for that chopping of hand incident..... You ban them there will be a new organisation in a different name.....

SDPI is not very influential , even in Muslim majority belts, Last election in Malappuram constituency they got around 2000 votes, where in Indian union muslim league won by a margin of 2 laks....

It is better to sentence the head of the party using the NIA charsheet rather than putting a ban on the party......but sounds like progress is too slow.

Influential or not they have managed blackmail a school,its dissapointing
It angers me to see, media not saying a thing about it.

These Mullahs need to be tackled fast,they are even brain washing the normal folks.I am counting on the NSA since he knows the threats we face by Islamist & Iungis

It was dissapointing for me to see a delhilite ,living in the capital since birth change his mind ,after those mullaha classes,he did change a li'll if not completely, i felt like it was so easy to make these guys change their minds and wondered if they ever use their own brain.
I guess introduction of civil code and monitering of what's thought in madrassas would be few steps that would bring some improvement.

 

[Viny]

These bafoons should be kicked out of the country.
Why there are bringing religion into school. If they are insecure about religious freedom, then they should go madarsas.
School is not a place to teach kids religious differences. Let them grow with communal harmony and respect it each other without thinking of religion and origin.

Hand how does a welcome gesture like Namaste makes a religious issue, when they can say Hi, Hello.
Tommorow calling a hindu name like Ram, Krishna etc will be an issue for those bafoons.

Schools should not give an ear or eye to them. If required proper legal action should be taken against them.
Issues like this will give rise to Right wings as then they would start realizing that they need to push there agenda to keep themselves safe against muslim extremist.

Nation comes over religion, so whats the harm in singing national song?

 

[Spring Onion]

They will try to create this barrier, just to keep them relevant...But in the society there are sane people and number of them are more....

sane people? what sane people nair?

Why Hindu radicals wants to force Muslim students to sing Hindu religious belief in form of vande mataram?

now donttell me its not because we had been discussions for ages on this and you Indians failed to prove besides India had been seeing ruckus over this even before partition so its not a new issue.

The fact is Hindu radicals are not ready to drop it and want Muslims to chant it

 

[nair]

sane people? what sane people nair?

Why Hindu radicals wants to force Muslim students to sing Hindu religious belief in form of vande mataram?

now donttell me its not because we had been discussions for ages on this and you Indians failed to prove besides India had been seeing ruckus over this even before partition so its not a new issue.

The fact is Hindu radicals are not ready to drop it and want Muslims to chant it

You have no idea what you are taking..... Hindu Radicals?????? Yes DYFI, AIYF are the most Hindu radicals i have ever seen and that is the people who were protesting against it.....

 

[Spring Onion]

You have no idea what you are taking..... Hindu Radicals?????? Yes DYFI, AIYF are the most Hindu radicals i have ever seen and that is the people who were protesting against it.....

Yes all those who are imposing a religious thing in schools on non-Hindus are radicals to begin.

Whoever is protesting this case should be kept aside and the main bone of contention that is vande mataram be abolished from singing in schools.

 

[nair]

It is better to sentence the head of the party using the NIA charsheet rather than putting a ban on the party......but sounds like progress is too slow.

Influential or not they have managed blackmail a school,its dissapointing
It angers me to see, media not saying a thing about it.

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Taking steps against the leader wont be a nice idea, and that will give fuel to these radicals, and might create a communal issue..... But there are other ways to deal with it

Yes all those who are imposing a religious thing in schools on non-Hindus are radicals to begin.

Whoever is protesting this case should be kept aside and the main bone of contention that is vande mataram be abolished from singing in schools.

No body is forced to do that.... If some one is not interested or feel offended they can stop themselves from singing it.... Whats the big deal???

 

[Spring Onion]

Its a long song but in schools we only sing 2-3 paragaphs and its as follows:

Mother, I salute thee!
Rich with thy hurrying streams,
bright with orchard gleams,
Cool with thy winds of delight,
Dark fields waving Mother of might,
Mother free.

Glory of moonlight dreams,
Over thy branches and lordly streams,
Clad in thy blossoming trees,
Mother, giver of ease
Laughing low and sweet!
Mother I kiss thy feet,
Speaker sweet and low!
Mother, to thee I salute.

Who hath said thou art weak in thy lands
When the swords flash out in seventy million hands
And seventy million voices roar
Thy dreadful name from shore to shore?
With many strengths who art mighty and stored,
To thee I call Mother and Lord!
Though who savest, arise and save!
To her I cry who ever her foeman drove
Back from plain and Sea
And shook herself free.

Thou art wisdom, thou art law,
Thou art heart, our soul, our breath
Though art love divine, the awe
In our hearts that conquers death.
Thine the strength that nerves the arm,
Thine the beauty, thine the charm.
Every image made divine
In our temples is but thine.

Mother sweet, I salute thee,
Mother great and free!

For Muslims its not a lord.

You guys translated bowing as salute which is not at all.

 

[Zoro]

This is only the beginning very soon Kerala is gonna become major terrorist producing center in India. Come on my brother Mallu's wake up people who follow peace loving religion should not be trusted and make sure when these yahoos go to gulf they don't bring Jihadi mindset back to God's own country.

 

[Spring Onion]

No body is forced to do that.... If some one is not interested or feel offended they can stop themselves from singing it.... Whats the big deal???

why radical Hindus want to include this in schools? why not just National anthem to which there is no oppossion from Indian Muslims?

Its Hindu religious song and has no place in schools.

 

[Indrani]

yes,All Malayalam news medias seems to ignoring these social issues.. may be fearing backlash..but its not good for long run....

Hahahaha. Progressive Kerala. All it does is cover up its muck and you think it is God's Own Country.

 

[abjktu]

Kuch pata nahi hota toh nahi bola karo



This wahabi threat needs to be taken seriously,Just hope that the new NSA is not underestimating this threat & is taking all the necessary steps to ensure that it is taken care of

yeah,they need to be put in place..
but the mainstream parties of Kerala(both ruling and opposing) are not taking it seriously yet...fearing backlash and also their vast political/economical influence...

 

[nair]

why radical Hindus want to include this in schools? why not just National anthem to which there is no oppossion from Indian Muslims?

Its Hindu religious song and has no place in schools.

You are naming radical Hindu's just because they want to sing " Vandematharam" ?????? You know what???? this institution is owned by a muslims, and most of the education institutions run In Kerala are run by either a muslim based or a christian based....

But you are missing a point here, No one is forcing anyone to sing.... and no one can force one, not to sing too......

In simple words....... I respect your view, you respect mine.....

Note : Check few threads based on Kerala, you will know how radicals Hindu's are in Kerala.