Kayanis gamble: Pakistan pulls back troops from Indian border

[Rocky25]

I hope this is not true. One cannot trust the bharatis. This nonsense about bharat not striking first defies all reality. They were not too far away from making 'surgical strikes' not too long ago. We need the current the number of troops we have at least.

Why should we start a war and destroy our economy and go into deep hole and eat up nukes. Any war with Pakistan WILL be initiated by Pakistan, That is a solid fact. And we call ourselves as Indians not Bharathi's.

 

[Rafi]

Like Siachin, Kargil resulted in Pakistan taking strategic peaks from india, which are still in Pakistani hands.

 

[DarK-LorD]

I hope this is not true. One cannot trust the bharatis. This nonsense about bharat not striking first defies all reality. They were not too far away from making 'surgical strikes' not too long ago. We need the current the number of troops we have at least.

The option of Surgical war was considered by India as terrorists based in Pakistan were killing innocent civilians.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

I hope this is not true. One cannot trust the bharatis. This nonsense about bharat not striking first defies all reality. They were not too far away from making 'surgical strikes' not too long ago. We need the current the number of troops we have at least.

We dont want to do a surgical strike and Unite the Taliban and Pak military do we? No not at all. We like this situation better, thats a shame.

 

[DarK-LorD]

450,000 is a massive number.That's nearly 80% of the Army.

 

[Rafi]

We dont want to do a surgical strike and Unite the Taliban and Pak military do we? No not at all. We like this situation better, thats a shame.

That is the truth, india is the eternal enemy.

 

[Rafi]

450,000 is a massive number.That's nearly 80% of the Army.

140,000 are deployed in Counter Insurgency Operations.

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Pakistan can be trusted ?..LOL

To us, india cannot be trusted.

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bharatis cannot be trusted as they talk peace.

bhartis only talk peace, but their aim is to hurt our nation.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

That is the truth, india is the eternal enemy.

Like wise my friend, Like wise...

 

[Icarus]

Force strength is being maintained at the Eastern Border. This news is false. Troops and units are shuffled routinely from the Eastern to Western border and regularly to cities but that does not mean that they are being pulled back. It just means that they are being replaced.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Thread Cleaned up.

Stick to the topic please. There are plenty of threads on the Indo-Pak wars and who started what. It does not have to be introduced into every single thread.

The Indians need to realize, as Rafi pointed out, that each side views the other as the aggressor. Arguing that point on every single thread here will make no difference, and will be considered trolling and thread hijacking. Whether Indians agree or not, the fact is that Pakistan views India as the aggressor in various conflicts, and believes India will do so again, and therefore considers it a threat.

That Pakistani view is simply not going to change without substantive changes in the bilateral relationship and disputes between the two countries - period.

A simple, 'I disagree with that position of Pakistan' will suffice, and then continue talking on topic please.

 

[Pride]

If the news is true then I liked his gamble because of the following reasons..
1) There can be more troup deployed to fight against homegrown as well as outside terrorists.
2) This will be a sort of cross check of India's "No first use" policy. Any misadventure by India in current scenario will change Anti Pak sentiments of the world about Pak.
3) This move will strengthen Pak's stand for War on Terror and less obsession towards India (Which is referred by US multiple times)

 

[Pride]

Thread Cleaned up.

Stick to the topic please. There are plenty of threads on the Indo-Pak wars and who started what. It does not have to be introduced into every single thread.

The Indians need to realize, as Rafi pointed out, that each side views the other as the aggressor. Arguing that point on every single thread here will make no difference, and will be considered trolling and thread hijacking. Whether Indians agree or not, the fact is that Pakistan views India as the aggressor in various conflicts, and believes India will do so again, and therefore considers it a threat.

That Pakistani view is simply not going to change without substantive changes in the bilateral relationship and disputes between the two countries - period.

A simple, 'I disagree with that position of Pakistan' will suffice, and then continue talking on topic please.

AM, I dont want to start one more off topic post by replying you but the only thing is expected a sane description and on topic discussion rather than commenting you on Pak's POV so strongly that it looks like a biased mod on this hot discussion. Only a line would suffice for cleaning up rather than strongly supporting a Troller's perspective.

 

[MrIndianSikh]

even if Kayani moves troops to the east in emergency the troops could be shuffled to the west in a matter of days both army's practice rapid deployment exercises thats the point of having strike corps nonetheless good choice by Kayani to move troops to the east it will help combat the militancy there

 

[Rocky25]

I sincerely don't understand what India is going to get by attacking Pakistan at least at this point of time when the GDP is progressing at rapid pace. If Pakistan sends terrorist into India as per her economy, Let India send terrorists/support terrorists(All Indirectly) in the scale of her economy. If one bombs goes off in one civilian place in India or a one group of non-state Pakistanis enters India. Let India make sure 10 bombs goes off in Pakistani military establishment(Civilians not to be disturbed in any case) and destroy Pakistani Tanks and F16's(We should befriend Taliban for that, They had proved their mettle in that and are true heros!) and train & send 100 groups into attacking all military centers.

Let us give the enemy the taste of his own medicine. So Taliban is the key here... Motivate them to take over Pakistani nukes, then US will take care of the rest.... So never gamble, Never move the soldiers from the east border. We are threat no. 1.

 

[Tshering22]

Interesting article. But by the actions Kayani is taking, we have already achieved our objective. The objective is to keep Pakistan busy in its own troubles and that we've been able to attain without even having to do anything. The article makes General Vijay Kumar Singh and (shockingly) MMS sound as if they are General Moshe Dayan and PM Golda Meir (A very very wrong comparison if at all this was the intention ).

It is not easy to combat insurgencies and terrorism as we have learnt from experience. For a country that has trained itself for more than 50 years to fight in the Thar and plains of Punjab, combating insurgency in an inhospitable Afghan mountain range is very difficult. That too at a time when economy is under strain and there are pressing concerns for social breakdown due to internal problems. Instead of working on a comprehensive platform that allows Pakistan to rebuild once again from scratch and plug the loopholes of the past, the Army seems to be going in opposite direction. Making more nukes, missile-rattling, getting China to actually come into a territory that has no business needed from them and on top of it, doing nothing to clear the air with us.

At this time when trade between our countries can bring some economic relief, things are turning for the worse for Pakistan simply because of Pakistani Army's false ego. Zardari might be thousand times corrupt and the most hated political entity in Pakistan; But he took a strong initiative to actually begin the gradual changing of Pakistani mindset through opening up channels for peace that the Army found a threat to their political dominance and unseated him.

What can I say; Kayani and brigade are needlessly going in the opposite direction that will only in the end harm them by their own actions.