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Throughout 60 years of Indian occupation of Kashmir the Kashmiri people have resisted the Indian rule. Violent groups have emerged in Kashmir valley near the late 80s to the early 21st century to fight the Indian troops [nearly 700,000 have been stationed in Indian Held Kashmir [IHK]]. The radical ways of these groups have lost influence over the last few years and the Kashmiri population is now holding peaceful protests throughout the region to end Indian suppression of the Kashmiri people and to kick India out of the region with more than hundreds of thousands of people showing up to support the rallies and chanting anti-India slogans while waiving Paksitani flags. According to the U.N resolutions India has to give the Kashmiri people a choice to weather join India or Pakistan or remain independent but India has yet to fulfill its promise and give the Kashmiri people their right to choose. India has recently held elections in the disputed region with a 65% turnout even after the boycotting of the election by several Kashmiri separatist groups. India states that as a success but several Kashmiris voters has been quoted saying that "that does not effect the fact that we want to be free from Indian rule."
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Indian Army and Police Tied to Kashmir Killings
SRINAGAR, Kashmir, Feb. 3 — Amid a grove of poplar trees in a village just north of here, a grave was unearthed Thursday afternoon. Out came the body of a man, shot dead nearly two months ago, whom the Indian police described at the time as an anti-Indian militant from Pakistan.
The New York Times
The police are examining five bodies buried near Sumbal.
An elderly man, who had been searching for his missing son for nearly two months, was summoned for the exhumation. He stared at the horror dug out of the ground and told the police what he had refused to believe all this time. “He is my son,” he said. Then he sat on the bare ground and shook.
As it turned out, the dead man, Abdul Rehman Paddar, was not a Pakistani at all, nor a militant. He was a Kashmiri carpenter from a village south of here. The Indian police are now investigating whether he was killed by some of their own men, for motives that could range from personal revenge to greed. A suspected militant’s body, after all, comes with a handsome cash reward. By Saturday, four police officers were under arrest in connection with Mr. Paddar’s killing.
S. M. Sahai, the chief of police for Kashmir, said his investigators were looking into whether at least two other bodies were part of the same ring; setups like the killing of Mr. Paddar are known here as “encounter killings.” Each of the victims had been killed in operations conducted jointly by the police and either an Indian Army unit or a paramilitary force that operates under army command, he said.
By the end of the day on Saturday, as the investigation snowballed, a total of five bodies had been exhumed, all in the area surrounding Sumbal, and their identities were being checked.
The exhumations have not only unearthed a deep well of resentment among the people of Indian-administered Kashmir, but have also forced the Indian government to face anew long-simmering charges of abuse by Indian soldiers and the police.
Kashmiris have long accused the Indian authorities of disappearances and extrajudicial killings; one local human rights group estimates that 10,000 people have disappeared since the anti-Indian insurgency began here in 1989. Nor have civilians been immune to the savagery of militants; beheadings are among their favored tactics.
India blames its rival and neighbor, Pakistan, for aiding and arming the insurgents. Pakistan denies the charge, and does not recognize India’s claim to Kashmir. Claimed by both countries, Kashmir has been a center of strife for nearly 60 years.
While the violence has calmed considerably since a 2004 peace deal between India and Pakistan, it has hardly ended the bloodshed or diminished the presence of Indian troops here. India says troop reduction can begin only when the militants lay down their weapons.
Those troops have been blamed repeatedly for human rights abuses here, most recently by a 156-page report released last October by Human Rights Watch, which detailed dozens of cases in which, it said, the state had failed to hold its security forces accountable for suspected abductions, killings and detentions.
Among the most infamous of those cases were the March 2000 killings in the southern village of Pathirabal of five men, whom the army identified as foreign terrorists responsible for a massacre of Sikh civilians. The men, whose bodies had been burned and badly mutilated, turned out to be civilians abducted by the army, according to relatives and a subsequent federal investigation.
In a rare instance of prosecution, five Indian soldiers were charged with the killings, but the case remains stuck in the courts nearly seven years later, and the accused remain on the job. The army insists that they be tried by an internal court martial, and not a civilian court.
Human Rights Watch blamed the Indian government for what it called its “lack of commitment” to accountability and a series of Indian laws that shield soldiers in conflict zones like Kashmir. “This has led to a serious climate of impunity,” the report concluded.
Indian officials have explicitly sought to use the latest cases of encounter killings to rebut accusations of impunity, pointing out that they have taken the lead in investigating army and police officials linked to what they call isolated abuses of power.
“This is an aberration,” Mr. Sahai, the police chief, said in an interview in his office here in the summer capital of Indian-run Kashmir. “This is not the rule. We have not tried to suppress anything. Whatever are the facts of the case have come out in the open. If we are trying to set our house in order, that should increase public confidence.”
(Page 2 of 2)
Mr. Sahai said the police were also investigating whether members of the Indian Army were complicit in Mr. Paddar’s killing. [Indian newspapers reported Monday that the army said it would conduct an internal investigation into whether its soldiers were involved.]
The Kashmir state chief minister, Ghulam Nabi Azad, has likewise called for a judicial inquiry into the killings, promising a transparent investigation. Whether it will expand to include other suspected encounter killings remains a mystery; if it does expand, it could prove to be a public relations headache for New Delhi.
Last year, the prime minister promised zero tolerance of abuse by Indian forces in Kashmir, a pledge clearly intended to win the hearts-and-minds battle there.
The carpenter, Mr. Paddar, seems to have unwittingly instigated a test of that promise. According to interviews with the police as well as the man’s friends and relatives, Mr. Paddar appears to have been well acquainted with at least one of the policeman charged with his murder, Farooq Ahmad Paddar, a native of the same village.
In fact, the carpenter had given the policeman roughly $1,650 in exchange for a promised government job, and for months, according to one of his relatives, the carpenter had pursued the policeman to keep his promise. The job never materialized.
One Friday last December, the policeman summoned the carpenter to a neighborhood of Srinagar, where the carpenter lived, said a co-worker who accompanied him part of the way. That’s when Mr. Paddar disappeared.
The carpenter’s family filed a missing person report, which would have gone nowhere, like hundreds of other missing person reports in Kashmir, were it not for a police investigator who found Mr. Paddar’s cellphone in the hands of a man several miles north of here last week.
According to investigators, the policeman gave away the carpenter’s cellphone, but only after, it seems, he and an unknown number of his colleagues shot him and gave his body to some villagers in Sumbal, a hamlet about an hour’s drive from Srinagar. They buried him.
The police, in a joint operation with a paramilitary unit called the Central Reserve Police Force, meanwhile, issued a statement claiming responsibility for having killed a militant of Pakistani origin.
The discovery of the cellphone led police investigators to Mr. Paddar, the police officer, and three of his colleagues. Eventually, it also led investigators to other graves suspected of being linked to the same murder ring.
According to the police, one victim was a perfume seller, who was picked up last February by the local police, the Central Reserve Police and an army unit known as the Rashtriya Rifles. Another was a local Islamic cleric, who was picked up from his home in October 2005 by the police and the Rashtriya Rifles.
On Thursday afternoon, as teams of police and forensic investigators dug for Mr. Paddar’s remains, hundreds of angry villagers, kept away by a ring of concertina wire, shouted familiar slogans. “Azadi,” or freedom, went one chant. “Hang him,” they also yelled, referring to the killer.
In the angry tussle, bricks were thrown at the police. Tear gas was fired back. Mr. Paddar’s body, pocked with four bullets, including one that tore apart his face, was plucked out of the ground, shrouded in a white cloth, and put inside a simple wooden coffin, all before his grieving father. From the village women came songs of mourning, a familiar chorus in Kashmir
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/06/world/asia/06kashmir.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2
SRINAGAR, Kashmir, Feb. 3 — Amid a grove of poplar trees in a village just north of here, a grave was unearthed Thursday afternoon. Out came the body of a man, shot dead nearly two months ago, whom the Indian police described at the time as an anti-Indian militant from Pakistan.
The New York Times
The police are examining five bodies buried near Sumbal.
An elderly man, who had been searching for his missing son for nearly two months, was summoned for the exhumation. He stared at the horror dug out of the ground and told the police what he had refused to believe all this time. “He is my son,” he said. Then he sat on the bare ground and shook.
As it turned out, the dead man, Abdul Rehman Paddar, was not a Pakistani at all, nor a militant. He was a Kashmiri carpenter from a village south of here. The Indian police are now investigating whether he was killed by some of their own men, for motives that could range from personal revenge to greed. A suspected militant’s body, after all, comes with a handsome cash reward. By Saturday, four police officers were under arrest in connection with Mr. Paddar’s killing.
S. M. Sahai, the chief of police for Kashmir, said his investigators were looking into whether at least two other bodies were part of the same ring; setups like the killing of Mr. Paddar are known here as “encounter killings.” Each of the victims had been killed in operations conducted jointly by the police and either an Indian Army unit or a paramilitary force that operates under army command, he said.
By the end of the day on Saturday, as the investigation snowballed, a total of five bodies had been exhumed, all in the area surrounding Sumbal, and their identities were being checked.
The exhumations have not only unearthed a deep well of resentment among the people of Indian-administered Kashmir, but have also forced the Indian government to face anew long-simmering charges of abuse by Indian soldiers and the police.
Kashmiris have long accused the Indian authorities of disappearances and extrajudicial killings; one local human rights group estimates that 10,000 people have disappeared since the anti-Indian insurgency began here in 1989. Nor have civilians been immune to the savagery of militants; beheadings are among their favored tactics.
India blames its rival and neighbor, Pakistan, for aiding and arming the insurgents. Pakistan denies the charge, and does not recognize India’s claim to Kashmir. Claimed by both countries, Kashmir has been a center of strife for nearly 60 years.
While the violence has calmed considerably since a 2004 peace deal between India and Pakistan, it has hardly ended the bloodshed or diminished the presence of Indian troops here. India says troop reduction can begin only when the militants lay down their weapons.
Those troops have been blamed repeatedly for human rights abuses here, most recently by a 156-page report released last October by Human Rights Watch, which detailed dozens of cases in which, it said, the state had failed to hold its security forces accountable for suspected abductions, killings and detentions.
Among the most infamous of those cases were the March 2000 killings in the southern village of Pathirabal of five men, whom the army identified as foreign terrorists responsible for a massacre of Sikh civilians. The men, whose bodies had been burned and badly mutilated, turned out to be civilians abducted by the army, according to relatives and a subsequent federal investigation.
In a rare instance of prosecution, five Indian soldiers were charged with the killings, but the case remains stuck in the courts nearly seven years later, and the accused remain on the job. The army insists that they be tried by an internal court martial, and not a civilian court.
Human Rights Watch blamed the Indian government for what it called its “lack of commitment” to accountability and a series of Indian laws that shield soldiers in conflict zones like Kashmir. “This has led to a serious climate of impunity,” the report concluded.
Indian officials have explicitly sought to use the latest cases of encounter killings to rebut accusations of impunity, pointing out that they have taken the lead in investigating army and police officials linked to what they call isolated abuses of power.
“This is an aberration,” Mr. Sahai, the police chief, said in an interview in his office here in the summer capital of Indian-run Kashmir. “This is not the rule. We have not tried to suppress anything. Whatever are the facts of the case have come out in the open. If we are trying to set our house in order, that should increase public confidence.”
(Page 2 of 2)
Mr. Sahai said the police were also investigating whether members of the Indian Army were complicit in Mr. Paddar’s killing. [Indian newspapers reported Monday that the army said it would conduct an internal investigation into whether its soldiers were involved.]
The Kashmir state chief minister, Ghulam Nabi Azad, has likewise called for a judicial inquiry into the killings, promising a transparent investigation. Whether it will expand to include other suspected encounter killings remains a mystery; if it does expand, it could prove to be a public relations headache for New Delhi.
Last year, the prime minister promised zero tolerance of abuse by Indian forces in Kashmir, a pledge clearly intended to win the hearts-and-minds battle there.
The carpenter, Mr. Paddar, seems to have unwittingly instigated a test of that promise. According to interviews with the police as well as the man’s friends and relatives, Mr. Paddar appears to have been well acquainted with at least one of the policeman charged with his murder, Farooq Ahmad Paddar, a native of the same village.
In fact, the carpenter had given the policeman roughly $1,650 in exchange for a promised government job, and for months, according to one of his relatives, the carpenter had pursued the policeman to keep his promise. The job never materialized.
One Friday last December, the policeman summoned the carpenter to a neighborhood of Srinagar, where the carpenter lived, said a co-worker who accompanied him part of the way. That’s when Mr. Paddar disappeared.
The carpenter’s family filed a missing person report, which would have gone nowhere, like hundreds of other missing person reports in Kashmir, were it not for a police investigator who found Mr. Paddar’s cellphone in the hands of a man several miles north of here last week.
According to investigators, the policeman gave away the carpenter’s cellphone, but only after, it seems, he and an unknown number of his colleagues shot him and gave his body to some villagers in Sumbal, a hamlet about an hour’s drive from Srinagar. They buried him.
The police, in a joint operation with a paramilitary unit called the Central Reserve Police Force, meanwhile, issued a statement claiming responsibility for having killed a militant of Pakistani origin.
The discovery of the cellphone led police investigators to Mr. Paddar, the police officer, and three of his colleagues. Eventually, it also led investigators to other graves suspected of being linked to the same murder ring.
According to the police, one victim was a perfume seller, who was picked up last February by the local police, the Central Reserve Police and an army unit known as the Rashtriya Rifles. Another was a local Islamic cleric, who was picked up from his home in October 2005 by the police and the Rashtriya Rifles.
On Thursday afternoon, as teams of police and forensic investigators dug for Mr. Paddar’s remains, hundreds of angry villagers, kept away by a ring of concertina wire, shouted familiar slogans. “Azadi,” or freedom, went one chant. “Hang him,” they also yelled, referring to the killer.
In the angry tussle, bricks were thrown at the police. Tear gas was fired back. Mr. Paddar’s body, pocked with four bullets, including one that tore apart his face, was plucked out of the ground, shrouded in a white cloth, and put inside a simple wooden coffin, all before his grieving father. From the village women came songs of mourning, a familiar chorus in Kashmir
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/06/world/asia/06kashmir.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2
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I think this thread is about Kashmir. I'm showing the other part of this story "Burning Haven". I didn't put anything else, only Kashmiri, THE BURNING HEAVEN.
And my views are pro India that is the only difference
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India: Hold Abusers in Kashmir Accountable
State Government Should Repeal Immunity Laws for Soldiers
February 9, 2009
(New York) - The newly elected Jammu and Kashmir government should hold security forces to account for human rights violations as an important confidence-building measure to promote lasting peace, Human Rights Watch said today in a letter to Chief Minister Omar Abdullah.
Human Rights Watch called for an independent, transparent, and time-bound commission to investigate allegations of enforced disappearances. The commission should be empowered to summon members of the security forces to testify and to order forensic investigations to establish the identities of those buried in unmarked graves as unidentified foreign militants.
"The new government should break with past practices and ensure that those who commit abuses are investigated and appropriately prosecuted for their crimes," said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch. "There can be no lasting political settlement in Kashmir unless human rights abuses that have fueled the insurgency are addressed."
Human Rights Watch called for the repeal of laws such as the Jammu and Kashmir Disturbed Areas Act, the Armed Forces (Jammu and Kashmir) Special Powers Act, and the Public Safety Act. These laws provide the armed forces with extraordinary powers to search, detain, and use lethal force, leading to numerous human rights violations. They also provide immunity for security forces. Prosecutions of security force personnel, even where the facts are well established, are rare.
Human Rights Watch has, over the two decades of violence in Jammu and Kashmir, documented numerous failures to ensure protection of human rights. A September 2006 report, "‘Everyone Lives in Fear': Patterns of Impunity in Jammu and Kashmir," found that the Indian army and paramilitaries, as well as the militants, many backed by Pakistan, were responsible for human rights abuses and that the political and legal systems in India and Pakistan had failed to end abuses or punish the perpetrators.
"There has been a routine failure of justice in Jammu and Kashmir," Adams said. "Chief Minister Abdullah has a historic opportunity to show that his administration will be different."
State Government Should Repeal Immunity Laws for Soldiers
February 9, 2009
(New York) - The newly elected Jammu and Kashmir government should hold security forces to account for human rights violations as an important confidence-building measure to promote lasting peace, Human Rights Watch said today in a letter to Chief Minister Omar Abdullah.
Human Rights Watch called for an independent, transparent, and time-bound commission to investigate allegations of enforced disappearances. The commission should be empowered to summon members of the security forces to testify and to order forensic investigations to establish the identities of those buried in unmarked graves as unidentified foreign militants.
"The new government should break with past practices and ensure that those who commit abuses are investigated and appropriately prosecuted for their crimes," said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch. "There can be no lasting political settlement in Kashmir unless human rights abuses that have fueled the insurgency are addressed."
Human Rights Watch called for the repeal of laws such as the Jammu and Kashmir Disturbed Areas Act, the Armed Forces (Jammu and Kashmir) Special Powers Act, and the Public Safety Act. These laws provide the armed forces with extraordinary powers to search, detain, and use lethal force, leading to numerous human rights violations. They also provide immunity for security forces. Prosecutions of security force personnel, even where the facts are well established, are rare.
Human Rights Watch has, over the two decades of violence in Jammu and Kashmir, documented numerous failures to ensure protection of human rights. A September 2006 report, "‘Everyone Lives in Fear': Patterns of Impunity in Jammu and Kashmir," found that the Indian army and paramilitaries, as well as the militants, many backed by Pakistan, were responsible for human rights abuses and that the political and legal systems in India and Pakistan had failed to end abuses or punish the perpetrators.
"There has been a routine failure of justice in Jammu and Kashmir," Adams said. "Chief Minister Abdullah has a historic opportunity to show that his administration will be different."
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Starter Post #1: Dedicated Thread for Pictures and Multimedia , depicting Indian occupation of J&K.
Mods Please make it Sticky.
Everything else would be Considered a Troll.
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^^ This is what Kashmiris should do, go to school and get educated and support your family. Turn your face away from terrorism. See the gun, thatz for those who want to make trouble in Kashmir. And India will protect its citizens from Terrorism - AT ANY COST.period.
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