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Kashmir Issue : Our options & possible Course of Action

In India, the feeling is that you are just interested in the land and not the people. When Swaran Singh offered a significant part of the valley to Bhutto in 1963 or so - Bhutto should have accepted and we would not be in the perpetual state of enmity.
we ??????????? are indians drinking something wired ? in our part of kashmir there is any insurgency ? we are not land hungry indians . our kashmiris have still power they have prime minister presedent and gov body . can you say this in IOK ?
 
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Your giving the kashmiris what they want, they will never join Pakistan once they get IOK. Did you not see my post in "traitors in the midst"? Wake up and look what's around you. I'm not letting our sacrifices go to waste, this suggestion is ludacris
then its thier wish why should we cry for them ? its not free world sir ?
 
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In a couple more years when India water crisis becomes a reality, they will cut off the river
 
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Idea is there own country, there own army, and their own diplomacy, it's about making it stronger, so that they can challenge India in the case internationally as people of that land themselves.

Right now the outsiders view it as Pakistan vs India over land which belongs to neither of the two people.
 
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in latter stage you can but for now take your responsibility man . pakistan is with you always .

Make me the leader i'll do the rest. We are even now a practical small state free .. We just down have our own army.
 
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Idea is there own country, there own army, and their own diplomacy, it's about making it stronger, so that they can challenge India in the case internationally as people of that land themselves.

Right now the outsiders view it as Pakistan vs India over land which belongs to neither of the two people.
And you think India will sit there and watch? It will get invaded as soon as PA steps am inch back. Are you all insane?
 
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Who's crying?

If we had any doubt about their allegiance, we wouldn't be allowing guns to be used and bought without licenses at moment.

But if this is to happen, then it must be such that Pakistan can grant it full protection with same soldiers, intelligence, and also provide it a Nuclear Umbrella.

And you think India will sit there and watch? It will get invaded as soon as PA steps am inch back. Are you all insane?

No, we are not saying that Pakistan Army should step back an inch. You missed the main point completely.
 
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Make me the leader i'll do the rest. We are even now a practical small state free .. We just down have our own army.
I'm sorry to say but I'm questioning kashmiris loyalty, because after a few years and talking to a bunch of people. I have come to the conclusion that they are not Pakistanis, they will betray Pakistan if they got the slightest chance. Like the Bengalis.
 
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I don't think both the countries have what it takes to go for a total war. it is not a secret that pakistan has been supporting militancy in kashmir and things have gone so far that kashmir people are not in favour of pakistan either. The instrument of accession doesn't not give the kashmir any option to become independent.

Lots of stuff here I don't agree with. But this would be a very tactical and good suggestion that Imran Khan sir has suggested.

I'm sorry to say but I'm questioning kashmiris loyalty, because after a few years and talking to a bunch of people. I have come to the conclusion that they are not Pakistanis, they will betray Pakistan if they got the slightest chance. Like the Bengalis.

Stop talking to strangers on internet : )

If there was any doubt of loyalty, we wouldn't give them their own administration, effective government, or allow licensed and unlicensed guns.

We all recall videos during February conflict, people of Azad Kashmir were cheering on the Army as more troops passed through for deployment. Same people gave abhi nandan a thrashing.
Same people distributed beverages for Army passing through.

Same people today protested India's move and rallied in support of Kashmir.

Don't ever doubt them. We don't. The army doesn't. The people don't. The government doesn't. Neither should you!
 
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And you think India will sit there and watch? It will get invaded as soon as PA steps am inch back. Are you all insane?
pakistan army helped many countries we will stay there we even helped gulf countries sir . but now its time we should give flag of diplomacy on international level to kashmiris .
 
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I'm sorry to say but I'm questioning kashmiris loyalty, because after a few years and talking to a bunch of people. I have come to the conclusion that they are not Pakistanis, they will betray Pakistan if they got the slightest chance. Like the Bengalis.

You do realize you are suggesting that i am betraying pakistan somehow.. Do you realize what you are writing right now?

pakistan army helped many countries we will stay there we even helped gulf countries sir . but now its time we should give flag of diplomacy on international level to kashmiris .
That is a valid option. I think even indian kashmiriz would love this option. You should push this idea in higher ups.
 
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