Kashmir is not an internal issue of India: UN Delegate

[Joe Shearer]

some of your friends here have indeed told me that.

but when has radical progressive change ever been "practical"??

what is right must be done.



how is geelani remotely equatable to shehla and umar??

and i am sure that during the emergency even sangh-sympathizing student leaders had their files opened in the home ministry.

They did.

There has been an RSS section in the IB since 1952.

So Mr dumbass it's Pakistan's economy too that absorb more than 70billion$ loss since 2003.

Nor does india have any significant advantage over Pakistan. Why do you think india never dared attacking Pakistan even after so much chest thumping? In 2008 it even had US and international support.

Muslim from much smaller states defeated indian states that were comparatively bigger. Entire middle east population is little more than 25% population of india, note that middle east is west Asia plus north africa. Pakistan has thrashed your so called powerful army in 48, 65 and 99. 71 was victory that was won by mutkia terrorists for india.

But unfortunately for you, you have failed big time. Situation is pretty calm as compared to 2009 in Pakistan.



You mean those 2 dead on the road , indian occupier terrorists are playing their national sports there? Wtf is this sport?

But what else can be expected where children are been killed in order to please "kali mata", or women are married to donkeys, dogs, snakes and what not.



Day dreaming has no tax. You may proceed.

Not even official historians of the Pakistan Army display as much self-delusion as you do. Day dreaming has no tax. You may proceed.

You seem to know nothing about 48, and are probably dependent on the legends of the horsemen who arrived to defend Lahore, about 65. We shall draw a gentle veil over 71, and refer you to Strobe Talbott to set you right about 99. Actually, MNS might be an even more authentic witness.

 

[ito]

The title is wrong it is Kashmir is not an internal issue of India: Pakistan's UN Delegate

You seem to be very knowledgeable. Could you post some details on

How many Kashmiri Pandits have been killed?

How Islamic terrorists have indulged in Hindu ethinic cleansing in Kashmir?

There is absolutely no use talking to him. In every Kashmir thread he posts the some old photos and same old rants.

By the way who wants enemies if you have such people in the enemy who are hell bent on taking their country to stone ages.

 

[MilSpec]

Don't we have the same species here on PDF,spouting the same nonsense.

I don't think so, Very rarely do i see Indian members go against the India's stated position on the state of Jammu and Kashmir. Individuals who defend the right of people to criticize India's Position may not necessarily subscribe to idea of criticizing India's stated position, there is a difference and in the heat of the JNU discussion it took a while for me to understand that too.

I am sincerely hoping that your statement is not a veiled jibe at @Joe Shearer sir, because you might not come across a more vehement supporter of India's stated position Kashmir in your life. If your reference was to gaddafi plan, I have no comments, it's way beyond my league to comprehend or comment on that.

regards.

 

[American Pakistani]

You seem to be very knowledgeable. Could you post some details on

How many Kashmiri Pandits have been killed?

How Islamic terrorists have indulged in Hindu ethinic cleansing in Kashmir?

Unfortunately poor Kashmiri pandits had to pay the price of angry Kashmiri mobs due to indian occupier terrorism against innocent civilians.

Of course it's unacceptable but this is what happens.

 

[Abingdonboy]

A "clickbait" title or what- conveniently ommiting the fact that this "UN delegate" was from Pakistan.

Unfortunately poor Kashmiri pandits had to pay the price of angry Kashmiri mobs due to indian occupier terrorism against innocent civilians.

Of course it's unacceptable but this is what happens.

Yes, it's all India's fault, how could there be any other explanation? It's not as if the orginal "occupiers" are in fact the Lakshers that the Pakistani states sent into Kashmir, is it? It's not as if the Indian state was invited into the state by legal document of accession by the ruler of the time, is it?

In that light, who are the real occupiers? Who has systematically backed terrorists who have targeted innocent civlians in India?

The world knows the answers, I don't expect you to concede the reality.

 

[American Pakistani]

Not even official historians of the Pakistan Army display as much self-delusion as you do. Day dreaming has no tax. You may proceed.

You seem to know nothing about 48, and are probably dependent on the legends of the horsemen who arrived to defend Lahore, about 65. We shall draw a gentle veil over 71, and refer you to Strobe Talbott to set you right about 99. Actually, MNS might be an even more authentic witness.

I believe it is you who need to brush up your history.

Indian occupiers were trying to occupy liberated parts of Kashmir but were slapped by Pakistani military and gilgit scout units. India then knock the door of UN, aft er liking it's wounds.

In 65, indians were dreaming to capture Lahore but were miserably failed and instead lost scores of invaders, air and land equipments, chwinda has been converted into indian tank graveyard.

In 99 Pakistan liberated parts of IOK. It only failed diplomatically, still it control many areas.

A "clickbait" title or what- conveniently ommiting the fact that this "UN delegate" was from Pakistan.


Yes, it's all India's fault, how could there be any other explanation? It's not as if the orginal "occupiers" are in fact the Lakshers that the Pakistani states sent into Kashmir, is it? It's not as if the Indian state was invited into the state by legal document of accession by the ruler of the time, is it?

In that light, who are the real occupiers? Who has systematically backed terrorists who have targeted innocent civlians in India?

The world knows the answers, I don't expect you to concede the reality.

Your 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists are real terrorists terrorizing Kashmiri population.

 

[dadeechi]

Unfortunately poor Kashmiri pandits had to pay the price of angry Kashmiri mobs due to indian occupier terrorism against innocent civilians.

Of course it's unacceptable but this is what happens.

Let's play the sequence of events in chronological order

1) Rise of Islamic terrorism supported by elements in Pakistan indulging in genocide and ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Kashmir

2) Indian military moved into Kashmir to restore order and peace

3) Pakistan screaming suppression of Islamic voice in Kashmir.

So let's tell the full story not just what suits Pakistan.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Your 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists are real terrorists terrorizing Kashmiri population.

I haven't got time to argue with those who quote that 700,000 figure so blindly without understanding how absurd the assertion is.

You keep buying such propoganda, it makes no difference to me, the world and truth isn't on your side.

I believe it is you who need to brush up your history.

Indian occupiers were trying to occupy liberated parts of Kashmir but were slapped by Pakistani military and gilgit scout units. India then knock the door of UN, aft er liking it's wounds.

In 65, indians were dreaming to capture Lahore but were miserably failed and instead lost scores of invaders, air and land equipments, chwinda has been converted into indian tank graveyard.

In 99 Pakistan liberated parts of IOK. It only failed diplomatically, still it control many areas.

The "India has started all wars, Pakistan has won them" gem.

 

[American Pakistani]

Let's play the sequence of events in chronological order

1) Rise of Islamic terrorism supported by elements in Pakistan indulging in genocide and ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Kashmir

2) Indian military moved into Kashmir to restore order and peace

3) Pakistan screaming suppression of Islamic voice in Kashmir.

So let's tell the full story not just what suits Pakistan.

Wrong. Incorrect and pathological lies taught to you by your media and army.

1) dog ra killing and murdering innocent kashmiris.

2) kashmiris revolt, entire Gilgit baltistan forces turned against dogra and thrashed it.

3) kashmiris too start fighting and call trials for help.

4) dogra call india for help but India force him to sign annexation documents, which he did.

5) indian occupier terrorists enters kashmir and start fighting the liberation forces. They start occupying the liberated parts.

6) pakistani forces entered and stop the terrorizing indian forces to move into liberated parts.

7) indians screaming foul and ran to UN.

I haven't got time to argue with those who quote that 700,000 figure so blindly without understanding how absurd the assertion is.

You keep buying such propoganda, it makes no difference to me, the world and truth isn't on your side.

You haven't got time but you quoted me like an m? Were you not that gem crying that he was British only, when mods corrected your flags? You tried to fool people hiding behind British flags for 1 year before I reported your false identity. So stfu with pointing nonsensical fingers and terming the truth as propaganda. 7 lakh occupier terrorist figure is real and correct.

The "India has started all wars, Pakistan has won them" gem.

India has started all the wars. Pakistan won all except 71.

 

[Abingdonboy]

You haven't got time but you quoted me like an m? Were you not that gem crying that he was British only, when mods corrected your flags? .

Well I was born, educated and raised in the UK and am currently living here so your assertion that I'm not British is more from your desire for it to be true than any logical stand point.

As for the rest of your nonsense filled post:

 

[Theskald]

sheesh what click bait. you call this news?you do realize that last time the U.N. wanted Pakistan out of Pakistani occupied Kashmir first .the U.N. will never in a million years side with Pakistan who literally have no legal claim to Kashmir .

the only thing U.N wants is a independent Kashmir , consisting in all 3 countries , China ,India and Pakistan.

 

[Alpha Fighter]

Wrong. Incorrect and pathological lies taught to you by your media and army.

1) dog ra killing and murdering innocent kashmiris.

2) kashmiris revolt, entire Gilgit baltistan forces turned against dogra and thrashed it.

3) kashmiris too start fighting and call trials for help.

4) dogra call india for help but India force him to sign annexation documents, which he did.

5) indian occupier terrorists enters kashmir and start fighting the liberation forces. They start occupying the liberated parts.

6) pakistani forces entered and stop the terrorizing indian forces to move into liberated parts.

7) indians screaming foul and ran to UN.

yes, just like you enter into Kargil in plain clothes are civilians are not PA ? Not Kashmiri PA army along with GB forces attack Kashmir.

B) when you PA + GB force reach 5 KM from Kashmir , Indian Forces airdropped in Kashmir.

C) after your reach 5 KM , how see how many KM the LOC is from Kashmir. Rest is history of your bravery.

Locations speaks for itself.

You haven't got time but you quoted me like an m? Were you not that gem crying that he was British only, when mods corrected your flags? You tried to fool people hiding behind British flags for 1 year before I reported your false identity. So stfu with pointing nonsensical fingers and terming the truth as propaganda. 7 lakh occupier terrorist figure is real and correct.

India has started all the wars. Pakistan won all except 71.

In kargil you also WON. I believe you still in Tiger peaks. lol

Man you made my Day ........for uneducated people like you, I will post on video later. you must see that.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I believe it is you who need to brush up your history.

Indian occupiers were trying to occupy liberated parts of Kashmir but were slapped by Pakistani military and gilgit scout units. India then knock the door of UN, aft er liking it's wounds.

You believe wrong, largely because you have no idea about the dates. Look them up, and then return to the discussion. The Pakistan military was not involved until a late stage, the Gilgit Scouts were involved at a very early stage. The Indian Army relieved the siege of Leh, recaptured Kargil, recaptured Rajouri (which was treated even more barbarically than Baramula), recaptured Poonch and only then went to the UN. I don't know who was licking what.

In 65, indians were dreaming to capture Lahore but were miserably failed and instead lost scores of invaders, air and land equipments, chwinda has been converted into indian tank graveyard.

In 99 Pakistan liberated parts of IOK. It only failed diplomatically, still it control many areas.

The dreams were dreamt by idiots who said in staff meetings that one of theirs was equal to ten of the enemy's, and fanciful things like that; who sent in 22 commando teams and lost 21 of them; who then opened hostilities on the Jammu frontier and were caught completely unprepared, with their senior echelons on leave, when the counter-attack was launched; who lost most of their inventory of Patton tanks in one fell battle; the list could go on, but to hyper-patriots who couldn't be bothered with the facts, it is of no use.

As for liberating parts of Indian administered Kashmir, your body count tells the tale; your cringing inability to acknowledge your war dead puts the seal on it; it is difficult to see what was diplomatic about a hurried withdrawal harried every step of the way by interdicting fire. Even your gallantry awards were given out on Indian recommendations.

Your 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists are real terrorists terrorizing Kashmiri population.

Of course. You should be the best judges of state terrorism. You have far more practice in that. Next to you, we are amateurs.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Akhir kab tak india apni fauj ki kali kartutain chupai gi... yeah bhiyanak chehra duniya ko daikhna hi paray ga.
oopppsss they were not expecting Kashmir again in UN from Pakistan. expect the unexpected.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Let's play the sequence of events in chronological order

1) Rise of Islamic terrorism supported by elements in Pakistan indulging in genocide and ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Kashmir

2) Indian military moved into Kashmir to restore order and peace

3) Pakistan screaming suppression of Islamic voice in Kashmir.

So let's tell the full story not just what suits Pakistan.

And that's not the full story. Ask this expert to explain the role of Major Brown. And the decorations he got. And from whom.

I haven't got time to argue with those who quote that 700,000 figure so blindly without understanding how absurd the assertion is.

You keep buying such propoganda, it makes no difference to me, the world and truth isn't on your side.


The "India has started all wars, Pakistan has won them" gem.

Do you think it deserves an Oscar?