Kashmir A Nuclear Flash Point

[Neutron]

I think all things on Kashmir have been debated to death on this forum.

Anyway, all 500 odd princely states have signed the instrument of accession to either dominion: India or Pakistan. The king of Kashmir accessed Kashmir to India, hence legally India has a strong position to argue. India argues that there was never any plebiscite in any of the 500 odd princely states, so why should Kashmir be different. Pakistan argues that as the majority of population of Kashmir is Muslim, hence Kashmir should have been the part of Pakistan. India counter argues that as India is secular country so it doesn't recognize states accession based on religion.

As on creation of Pakistan, there is a portion of population of India that is yet to accept the formation of Pakistan, anyway that is for another thread.

Stay on the topic. If you want to debate about legal and logical aspects of the kashmir freedom movement you are free to create any other thread.
Kashmir a Nuclear Flash point is the topic of the article

 

[ito]

Stay on the topic. If you want to debate about legal and logical aspects of the kashmir freedom movement you are free to create any other thread.
Kashmir a Nuclear Flash point is the topic of the article

India thinks Kashmir is not a nuclear flash point nor is it a dispute between India and Pakistan.

 

[Neutron]

All logic and legality fails when you claim Jammu and Kashmir only for its demography.
Legally Kashmir belongs to India as per the Instrument of Accession willingly signed by Raja Hari Singh.
Had Pakistan held its nerve and behaved itself without sending in its soldiers Kashmir would have been with Pakistan now.
Always Pakistan was the aggressor without minimum staple patience.

Off topic

 

[VCheng]

You can Read again important Part of the article

I have read it. What is the point that you wish to make with that portion?

 

[Neutron]

I have read it. What is the point that you wish to make with that portion?

Possibility of nuclear conflict between Pakistan and india.

 

[VCheng]

Possibility of nuclear conflict between Pakistan and india.

The whole world already knows that. What do you want to add to the widely accepted possibility? Asking for third party mediation will not work simply on this premise of geopolitical blackmail.

 

[Neutron]

The whole world already knows that. What do you want to add to the widely accepted possibility? Asking for third party mediation will not work simply on this premise of geopolitical blackmail.

It is not a geo political blackmail.
Wait and watch kashmir freedom fighters. Reaction of bleeding india and option of conventional war , can result into nuclear conflict without intervention of international community. Third party meditation is the only solution to resolve this nuclear issue.

 

[VCheng]

It is not a geo political blackmail.
Wait and watch kashmir freedom fighters. Reaction of bleeding india and option of conventional war , can result into nuclear conflict without intervention of international community. Third party meditation is the only solution to resolve this nuclear issue.

As I said, the situation as it already has existed for decades, is, by itself, not sufficient to force third party mediation. So what's new?

 

[Politico]

only 200 000 pakistani soldiers can free kashmir from hindus and make kashmir be part of pakistan. y pakistan waits when we have strong army and planes ???

 

[me_itsme]

As a matter of fact Pakistan is fighting war against terrorism.
Internal disaster means internal disaster.
You cannot oppress people of kashmir anymore. They want freedom.

They are free to leave. Kashmir stays with us.

 

[Neutron]

As I said, the situation as it already has existed for decades, is, by itself, not sufficient to force third party mediation. So what's new?

Well, I am hopeful.

 

[VCheng]

Well, I am hopeful.

Hope is good. But international geopolitics often needs more than just hope to make things happen.

 

[dray]

Kashmir a Nuclear Flash point

You have repeated this term about a thousand times already in the last four pages, as if this ends all arguments. Now note down the two points and come back with a better article.

First, We have certain documents and agreements in place, starting from the accession papers of Kashmir duly signed by the Maharaja Hari Singh; legally making Kashmir a part of India, to the Simla Agreement, that prohibits any third party involvement in this matter without OUR CONSENT, and we don't see the need for any third party involvement, EVER.

Second, India has a "No First Use" policy in place, there cannot be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan unless Pakistan decides to use nuclear weapons against India first. So, if Pakistan is seriously concerned about a nuclear war, then the ONLY THING they need to do is to abstain from using a nuclear weapon against India, the ball is in Pakistan's court.

As it is clear that there cannot be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan unless Pakistan starts it, this "Kashmir a Nuclear Flash point" rhetoric is being seen by us Indians as a threat by Pakistan, not a concern. However, Pakistan should realize that it is in no position to issue such threat to its much bigger and stronger neighbor, hence, it should act responsibly and constructively to resolve all pending issues with India bilaterally. A good point of start would be "State Sponsored Terrorism".

Thank you.

 

[k_arura]

Read again

There is a danger of a nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan but the resolution of the nuclear issue lies in the resolution of the Kashmir issue, I think Kashmir is the flash point. Its vulnerability and a threat for the whole humanity has been acknowledged by many leaders of the world, especially US President Bill Clinton, who named Kashmir as a nuclear flash point between two nuclear powers.Source: Kashmir A Nuclear Flash Point

Thats what Pak would like the whole world to think and scare them into intervening. Wishful thinking.

 

[Neutron]

You have repeated this term about a thousand times already in the last four pages, as if this ends all arguments. Now note down the two points and come back with a better article.

First, We have certain documents and agreements in place, starting from the accession papers of Kashmir duly signed by the Maharaja Hari Singh; legally making Kashmir a part of India, to the Simla Agreement, that prohibits any third party involvement in this matter without OUR CONSENT, and we don't see the need for any third party involvement, EVER.

Second, India has a "No First Use" policy in place, there cannot be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan unless Pakistan decides to use nuclear weapons against India first. So, if Pakistan is seriously concerned about a nuclear war, then the ONLY THING they need to do is to abstain from using a nuclear weapon against India, the ball is in Pakistan's court.

As it is clear that there cannot be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan unless Pakistan starts it, this "Kashmir a Nuclear Flash point" rhetoric is being seen by us Indians as a threat by Pakistan, not a concern. However, Pakistan should realize that it is in no position to issue such threat to its much bigger and stronger neighbor, hence, it should act responsibly and constructively to resolve all pending issues with India bilaterally. A good point of start would be "State Sponsored Terrorism".

Thank you.

Accession papers are not acceptable
Simla agreement, a failure of peace process


Your cold start doctrine is a threat to Pakistan

we do have first use policy. Take it as a concern or threat up to you. Greater the conventional threat, greater will be the Nuclear deterrence.