Karzai urges Taliban to fight Pakistan

[RazorMC]

Regarding bold part, yes...rubbish for sane pakistans..for those pakistanis who know what the outcome would of such a state would be. And a dream for those pakistans who feel afghanistan is a client state of pakistan and feel their j!had! pets aka strategic depth could be used against India.

Most Pakistanis remember what happened last time the US withdrew too quickly. Let's see how the US handles the mess we had to endure last time.

 

[Mav3rick]

This dog will be put down soon enough!!

 

[Umair Nawaz]

The Headmaster of Kabul regime

 

[pakdefender]

basically what Karzai has implicitly accepted here is that the ANA is not up to the mark when it comes to the defence of afghanistan

So he is apealing to those who are currently fighting the american occupation of afghanistan to fight Pakistan instead and let him ( an american implanted president ) and his accomplaces who directed american B-52 strikes against the Taliban off the hook for a) failing to defend Afghanistan and b) for colaborating with the americans for overthowing the Taliban regime in Afghanistan

 

[muse]

Thanks to Karzai, more Pakistanis are realizing that all that Pak-Afghan bhai-bhai thing never worked. The only language they understand is bullets and shells.

Really? How would they know? When has the so called Pakistan army ever been able to deliver a message of bullets and shells?

I understand the thinking you are expressing, unfortunately for Pakistan, our messenger, the so called Pakistan army, is not really up to the job, and really if one is truthful, through out the history of Pakistan, the so called army of Pakistan has only delivered Pakistan from the fire to the frying pan

 

[pakdefender]

Really? How would they know? When has the so called Pakistan army ever been able to deliver a message of bullets and shells?

I understand the thinking you are expressing, unfortunately for Pakistan, our messenger, the so called Pakistan army, is not really up to the job, and really if one is truthful, through out the history of Pakistan, the so called army of Pakistan has only delivered Pakistan from the fire to the frying pan

the army is doing its job just fine
seven days before elections , with a interim government in place , if the army were to escalate operations on any front then there will be howling and crying that this was done to delay the elections

We need to get through the elections , have an elected government in place and then formulate how we'll respond to shenanigans of US-backed Karzai government

 

[muse]

the army is doing its job just fine
seven days before elections , with a interim government in place , if the army were to escalate operations on any front then there will be howling and crying that this was done to delay the elections

We need to get through the elections , have an elected government in place and then formulate how we'll respond to shenanigans of US-backed Karzai government

So elections are taking place in Taliban controlled areas?? This is certainly news and evidence of the great job the arm is doing.

Please don't respond with knee jerk reactions -- think things thru -- criticism is a compliment, understand?

 

[RazorMC]

Really? How would they know? When has the so called Pakistan army ever been able to deliver a message of bullets and shells?

I understand the thinking you are expressing, unfortunately for Pakistan, our messenger, the so called Pakistan army, is not really up to the job, and really if one is truthful, through out the history of Pakistan, the so called army of Pakistan has only delivered Pakistan from the fire to the frying pan

Any normal-headed Pakistan can gather Afghan dislike for Pakistan right from the first interaction with them. I've personally met with dozens who look at Pakistan with contempt despite having families in Pakistan living on charity.

Second, the PA is currently limited by its resolve to see this whole thing through to the end. Atm, lobbing shells into Afghanistan is a welcoming mat for every Afghan to go around the world shouting profanities at us. Our failure lies in building a solid case for our actions and this is where the FM stumbles.

I see your last line holding true for PA's political ambitions, not so much for military action itself.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Afghanistan and Pakistan. India and China. Hope that South Asia doesn't escalate into a volley of war

 

[r3alist]

What motivates the afghan mindset?
An afghan will say that it is because of pak support for the taliban which fuelled the hate, yet this simple argument can be dismantled by asking why ONLY Pakistan? Why not Saudi or America? After all Pakistan was only the final link of the chain.
So the lack of proportion and perspective leaves you with the conclusion that the is another motivation...... And when you dig a bit deeper all the grievances of the durrand line and historical injustice come out.......THEREFORE this Pakistan using the taliban noise is only the most contemporary slander the afghans delight themselves in.... THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MOTIVATED BY OTHER ISSUES.

one thing the Pakistan side can help with is getting their recent history right...... Do not let Saudi and us escape responsibility for taliban, remind the afghan how he neglects this ... And remind the afghan how absurd their Pakistan bashing is when the Americans have killed and humiliated so much of their own people... How do they still have the motivation to be angry with Pakistan, what warped logic do they abide by?

Remind them of all of this.

 

[muse]

What motivates the afghan mindset?
An afghan will say that it is because of pak support for the taliban which fuelled the hate, yet this simple argument can be dismantled by asking why ONLY Pakistan? Why not Saudi or America? After all Pakistan was only the final link of the chain.
So the lack of proportion and perspective leaves you with the conclusion that the is another motivation...... And when you dig a bit deeper all the grievances of the durrand line and historical injustice come out.......THEREFORE this Pakistan using the taliban noise is only the most contemporary slander the afghans delight themselves in.... THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MOTIVATED BY OTHER ISSUES.

one thing the Pakistan side can help with is getting their recent history right...... Do not let Saudi and us escape responsibility for taliban..... And remind the afghan H Joe absurd their Pakistan bashing is when the Americans have killed and humiliated so much of their own people... How do they still have the motivation to be angry with Pakistan, what warped logic do they abide by?

Because Pakistan are open to being beaten up -- that's the point we have been making about the so called Pakistan army not understanding that it's continued tolerance for high casualties both of civilian and uniformed personnel, allows our adversaries to conclude these people are not just easy to bend over, they like it -- We have suggested that the so called Pakistan army's officer corp is a honor less officer corp and this is reflected in their tolerance for accepting high casualties while being unable to inflict the same on the adversaries of Pakistan

 

[Cyberian]

Karzai must have a death wish. I don't think he knows what's he's saying anymore. I think the toll of 12 years war is getting to him. Maybe it's for him to step down. America ain't going to fund his security all the time you know.

Whatever happened to that Soviet backing for Afghan Government once they left Afghanistan... ?

Hamid Karzai post 2014

 

[IceCold]

Karzai has literally lost it and its high time Pakistan should discuss with the US about this man's mental health and capability to run Afghanistan. His constant bickering and venom against Pakistan is getting worse by the day and more alarming is the fact that there is no response from our side.

 

[r3alist]

Any normal-headed Pakistan can gather Afghan dislike for Pakistan right from the first interaction with them. I've personally met with dozens who look at Pakistan with contempt despite having families in Pakistan living on charity.

Second, the PA is currently limited by its resolve to see this whole thing through to the end. Atm, lobbing shells into Afghanistan is a welcoming mat for every Afghan to go around the world shouting profanities at us. Our failure lies in building a solid case fory our actions and this is where the FM stumbles.

I see your last line holding true for PA's political ambitions, not so much for military action itself.

You second para is a very important point and links to my above post..... The afghan is seeking to build a case against Pakistan, emphasis on seeking to build...... They don't have much to point to..... So overt action by the PA will backfire, the western media will pay attention to pak attacks against afghans, but not vice versa.

It seems to me that the afghans are being encouraged to pick a punga with Pakistan.

 

[Haseebullah]

This should be a lesson to the Duffer officer corps of the so called Pakistan army -- Had they delivered punishment, had they ensured that the Afghan can respect and fear the response of the Pakistani nation, these kinds of things would not be happening - some of our knee jerk specialists, the cheer leaders of Dufferism, point with pride that the army that runs away to fight another day, inflicted one, count, yes, one casualty, (while suffering two) -- net result, safe behind the Americans Mr. Karzai calls for attacks on Pakistan, while the army that runs away to fight another day, uses the very same American trainers. What's wrong with this picture?

After reading alot of your posts i can confidently say that you are not TT material.
You over simplify stuff.