Karakorum - 8 (K-8) | Jet Trainer Aircraft.

[airomerix]

If it is close combat, what is the AAM for ?
Hunting helicopters in bulk ?

Anyway, K8 will need larger wings, and a more powerful engine to be of any use.

Cheers.

Yes it is for hunting heli's, UAVs.

 

[khanasifm]

PAF K-8P equipped head seeking AAM and 27mm canon underneath.

K-8s are tasked to be used in a variety of missions in combat such as close air support, enemy helicopter hunting, convoy escort, etc.

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23 mm gun pack Chinese version of perhaps gsh-23

 

[Scorpiooo]

Can be see permanent sqr of k8 Covented to light groud support role for PA and PAF in future ?

 

[airomerix]

 

[mingle]

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K8

 

[khanasifm]

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Old k8 cockpit from 80s newer ~2000 time k8p had hud and different proper Hdd all 1fcu has that standarD and older k8 part of rebuild / overhaul after completion of 2000 hours are getting it As well perhaps all fleet may be at same std By now

Old k8 cockpit newer k8p had hud and different proper Hdd all 1fcu has that standar and older k8 part of rebuild / overhaul after completion of 2000 hours are getting it to perhaps all fleet may be at same std

older k8 Chinese

https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2015/11/page/5/


Newer cockpit

 

[HAIDER]

If a dual mode Seeker can be equipped to the Turkish WVR missile, then only a few missiles would need to be carried, and each missile would have a much higher probably of hitting the target. It would free up space for other munitions, so that the Hukus or K-8 can carry more fuel and loiter longer, or carry more munitions and each platform would be even more lethal to the enemy.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa)
Bilal Khan (Quwa), What do you think of the Hurkus idea? (starting from post 828)
Why the Indians wont have as large a IR signature as the Saudi F-15s or Tornados, extensive training with the Qatari Apache AH-64E will allow the PAF to know how to handle that platform, and from what range and what system.

Btw: use of WVR missiles like a SAM has good returns: The Yemenis are using R-27s against the Saudi F-15s and Tornados, even downing a Tornado recently.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...h-r-27-air-to-air-missile-modified-into-a-sam

https://warisboring.com/the-houthis-do-it-yourself-air-defenses-3/

Here is a Saudi Apache (Saudis don't operate cobras if I'm not mistaken) shot down with presumably the same IR guided WVR Missile used as a SAM

Russian R27 in action, shotdown F15
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...h-r-27-air-to-air-missile-modified-into-a-sam
Yemani were trained by Russians and they have deep knowledge of using those weapons. They are not even sparing Chinese latest drones. Blue Arrow-7 air-to-surface anti-tank missiles seem to be visible

 

[airomerix]

RAF detachment at No.1 FCU 'Rahbars', PAF base Mianwali

 

[GriffinsRule]

RAF detachment at No.1 FCU 'Rahbars', PAF base Mianwali

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Red Arrows team or IPs?

 

[denel]

Yes it is for hunting heli's, UAVs.

not true.... there is a lot it can do. This is in same class as our Impala. Impalas took the brunt of the fight in Angola - they were flying at 10m in most cases; it had to be beefed up with ECM/EW to counter the russian equipment. At peak over 220+ were in front operation.

 

[airomerix]

Red Arrows team or IPs?

IP's

not true.... there is a lot it can do. This is in same class as our Impala. Impalas took the brunt of the fight in Angola - they were flying at 10m in most cases; it had to be beefed up with ECM/EW to counter the russian equipment. At peak over 220+ were in front operation.

Not true? Alot it can do?

Can you please be a little specific? What other purpose do AAMs serve on a K-8?

 

[denel]

IP's



Not true? Alot it can do?

Can you please be a little specific? What other purpose do AAMs serve on a K-8?

Not for AAM - I was speaking about other roles for K-8; AAMs are in general a waste of time for this aircraft unless it is for last ditch effort against helo gunships but even that is debateable. However, in smaller airforces, AAM are needed as they take up the role of point defence where J-7 take up the higher notch e.g. Namibia as a casing point.

 

[Scorpiooo]

The National Air Force of Angola (FANA) has reportedly received an unknown number of Hongdu K-8 (Karakorum-8) trainer/light attack aircraft from China.

“The National Air Force of Angola (FANA) has now taken delivery of six Hongdu K-8W Karakorums. Another six are set to be delivered this year,.

The acquisition was revealed after a K-9 jet with Angolan markings was spotted in an image being shared in China’s Weibo in March 2019. The aircraft had a cover over its cockpit and the leading edge of its tail had been removed, indicating it was either still under construction or getting ready to be shipped, Strategic Intelligence wrote last year.

In the same month, Scramble Magazine reported that Angola ordered 4 K-8s under a $52 million deal with China’s AVIC firm, with an option to buy four more.

The K-8 has a top speed of 800kmph. It is powered by Ukrainian AI-25TLK turbofan or a Chinese WS-11 (an AI-25TLK clone) engines developing 1680kg of thrust. Some export models are said to be powered by TFE731-2A turbofan developing 1600kg of thrust.

Maximum takeoff weight of the jet is 4470 kg and maximum range 2200 km. Export versions of the K-8 features Martin Baker ejection seats, a glass cockpit with head up display, multi-function displays and ability to carry PL-5E/PL-7 air-to-air missiles and a 23 mm gun pod.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Looking at the National Air Force of Angola, they have a lot of Mig21/Mig23/Su22/Su25 all of which can be replaced with the JF17. The K8 maybe the first step in establishing a Chinese pipeline in their inventory and one which could lead to the JF17 for them.

 

[mingle]

Looking at the National Air Force of Angola, they have a lot of Mig21/Mig23/Su22/Su25 all of which can be replaced with the JF17. The K8 maybe the first step in establishing a Chinese pipeline in their inventory and one which could lead to the JF17 for them.

Angola is another strong candidate for LM blk 70 V standard