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Karachi to be shut down if nationality not granted to MQM Chief

nobody has magic wand to suddenly solve anything, things take time but it should have the resolve to solve the problems, but things will become not solved if we keep treating people like third class citizens, every pakistani has the right to be a pakistani, its his birth right, MQM did perform in the local government when mustafa kamal was incharge, while all other parties just watched faces and did nothing, so to discredit some party without testing its merits, isn't it a big mistake? sindh ka naara laga ker aap ne MQM ko bilkul side line ker dya, and then you expect MQM to perform? and if it hadn't join sindh govt, things would have got even worse because you are not with us, you are against us and you will be politically victimised, and then the repercussions of politically squeezing out city like karachi who is the economic engine of pakistan and expecting not any black lash on the pakistani economy?, why can't we not just follow of the philosophy of live and let live? issuing each other treason certificates, issuing fatwa about who is patriotic and who is anti state, calling each other kafirs will solve anything? why can't we all give us room to prove ourselves, altaf has been declared enemy of pakistan by the above friend whom i took a long time to convince, but when will pakistani nation understand the true ideology of pakistan, to live and let live and consider each other as equals, rather than considering each other as inferiors, or ourselves as the most patriotic person in the country alive?


We don't need MQM who kill journalists, innocents and destroys karachi
 
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You have finally showed your true colour.I always suspected you were holding on to something. Go on keep sulking.

I have never ''hidden'' my feelings. I am a hybrid. I have Punjabi, Kashmiri and Urdu Speaking background. I am not racist to any of the ethnic groups that make up the beautiful nation of Pakistan.

Wow, wow, wow... what that all has to do with the matter of giving Pakistan citizenship to Altaf Bhai...!! The current PM was once declared a traitor too...!! He was thrown behind bars with all the horrible consequences of blunders he committed during his previous tenure...!! Secondly, if you have so much concern about the private militia of Chaudhry Brethren...why your Altaf bhai never raised his voice against them ....hmm let me tell you why..because he and his party was hand to hand partners with Chaudhry Brethren during the Musharraf's era or even the Zardari's era..!! Personally, i am no body to declare Altaf bhai a traitor, but no body is an exemption here, even Nawaz Sharif, or the Chaudhry Brethren.. thousands of members with their own opinions...!! But don't try to convert this discussion into your typical narrow minded version of Punjab phobia...It's a matter of serious concern for the authorities to grant citizenship to foreign national...not to mention a foreigner like one of his own kind whom we call Altaf Bhai..!!

First of all i am not a member of any political party. I have never voted for any party in Pakistan simply because i was too young to vote in Pakistan and my community is denied to vote anyway.

This has nothing to do with Altaf Hussain. I am not even defending his crimes. Just scratch the surface and you will know exactly what i mean.
 
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I have never ''hidden'' my feelings. I am a hybrid. I have Punjabi, Kashmiri and Urdu Speaking background. I am not racist to any of the ethnic groups that make up the beautiful nation of Pakistan.



First of all i am not a member of any political party. I have never voted for any party in Pakistan simply because i was too young to vote in Pakistan and my community is denied to vote anyway.

This has nothing to do with Altaf Hussain. I am not even defending his crimes. Just scratch the surface and you will know exactly what i mean.
Every word you uttered tells and exposes your anti Punjabi phobia.Typical of people from across the border or Ganga Jumna brand of urdu wale mqm.Why do you hide behind the cloak of *my community is denied to vote*,which community is that?, a qadiani,sikh,hindu or a christian or what?.All of these communities have the rights and do vote and become members of parliament and the govt as well.You are either very young or do not know the history of Pakistan.Remember Muslims of Punjab said Lab-baik to the call of Allama Iqbal(ra) and followed the leadership of Jinnah(ra) to achieve this country,had muslims of Punjab said NO to Iqbql(ra) and Jinnah(ra),there would be no Pakistan today.Ruling class is responsible for whatever bad happened in the country not 90% of120 million impoverished Punjabi Muslims.BTW why did your parents not take you back to your Ganga-Jumna roots ?.
 
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I have never ''hidden'' my feelings. I am a hybrid. I have Punjabi, Kashmiri and Urdu Speaking background. I am not racist to any of the ethnic groups that make up the beautiful nation of Pakistan.



First of all i am not a member of any political party. I have never voted for any party in Pakistan simply because i was too young to vote in Pakistan and my community is denied to vote anyway.

This has nothing to do with Altaf Hussain. I am not even defending his crimes. Just scratch the surface and you will know exactly what i mean.
Don't lie my friend! Every one has right to cast vote.
 
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Every word you uttered tells and exposes your anti Punjabi phobia.Typical of people from across the border or Ganga Jumna brand of urdu wale mqm.Why do you hide behind the cloak of *my community is denied to vote*,which community is that?, a qadiani,sikh,hindu or a christian or what?.All of these communities have the rights and do vote and become members of parliament and the govt as well.You are either very young or do not know the history of Pakistan.Remember Muslims of Punjab said Lab-baik to the call of Allama Iqbal(ra) and followed the leadership of Jinnah(ra) to achieve this country,had muslims of Punjab said NO to Iqbql(ra) and Jinnah(ra),there would be no Pakistan today.Ruling class is responsible for whatever bad happened in the country not 90% of120 million impoverished Punjabi Muslims.BTW why did your parents not take you back to your Ganga-Jumna roots ?.

Here comes another one with no idea whats going on in Pakistan. No there is not a single Ahmadi in Parliament. As for me being racist to Punjabis that's impossible. I was saying the exact thing that it is the Establishment which happen to be mainly Punjabi dominated.

My claim still stands valid and no one has yet refuted it. Why are all the traitors of Pakistan Non-Punjabis?
 
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Here comes another one with no idea whats going on in Pakistan. No there is not a single Ahmadi in Parliament. As for me being racist to Punjabis that's impossible. I was saying the exact thing that it is the Establishment which happen to be mainly Punjabi dominated.

My claim still stands valid and no one has yet refuted it. Why are all the traitors of Pakistan Non-Punjabis?

hamid mir, mir shakil and asma jehangir are all punjabis.
 
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ince very careful of racial rants or rules exist to take care of them very nicely.
And you should also be extremely careful not to side with and incourage those who rant against Punjabis behind the cliché of establishment.Think in terms of good and bad.
 
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Here comes another one with no idea whats going on in Pakistan. No there is not a single Ahmadi in Parliament. As for me being racist to Punjabis that's impossible. I was saying the exact thing that it is the Establishment which happen to be mainly Punjabi dominated.

My claim still stands valid and no one has yet refuted it. Why are all the traitors of Pakistan Non-Punjabis?
COULD you refresh my memory Mr.know all,Which court declared which person a traitor ?Bhutto was hanged for murder of Raza Qasuri 's father.
 
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COULD you refresh my memory Mr.know all,Which court declared which person a traitor ?Bhutto was hanged for murder of Raza Qasuri 's father.

Why was Nawaz not hanged for Hakeem Saeed's murder? Or are you one of these retards that believe MQM had Hakeem Saeed killed?
 
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nobody has magic wand to suddenly solve anything, things take time but it should have the resolve to solve the problems, but things will become not solved if we keep treating people like third class citizens, every pakistani has the right to be a pakistani, its his birth right, MQM did perform in the local government when mustafa kamal was incharge, while all other parties just watched faces and did nothing, so to discredit some party without testing its merits, isn't it a big mistake? sindh ka naara laga ker aap ne MQM ko bilkul side line ker dya, and then you expect MQM to perform? and if it hadn't join sindh govt, things would have got even worse because you are not with us, you are against us and you will be politically victimised, and then the repercussions of politically squeezing out city like karachi who is the economic engine of pakistan and expecting not any black lash on the pakistani economy?, why can't we not just follow of the philosophy of live and let live? issuing each other treason certificates, issuing fatwa about who is patriotic and who is anti state, calling each other kafirs will solve anything? why can't we all give us room to prove ourselves, altaf has been declared enemy of pakistan by the above friend whom i took a long time to convince, but when will pakistani nation understand the true ideology of pakistan, to live and let live and consider each other as equals, rather than considering each other as inferiors, or ourselves as the most patriotic person in the country alive?


Well yes I am not with MQM or any other party right now. Yes Mustafa kamal did some excellent work. But other forces stopped him now and he is gone. Time to move on. I only am with Pakistan. I dont only worry about Karachi or Sindh, for me I want to see all of Pakistan progress, all issues afflicting everyone to go, not just people in Karachi. Many times people have given the politicians chances to improve their lives, but what have they done?
There are many individuals inside and outside Pakistan who love Pakistan, but they dont know how to help. Many dont trust politicians, but vote so that the other political party does not win the elections. But they know that the vote they are giving wont solve their problems. So we will always be in the same place.
There was an old saying in Pakistan, ' Pakistan ka to Allah hi malik hain', otherwise how is it still existing?
 
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BLOODY GOOD, it only proves that MQM is a mafia and not a political party


ISLAMABAD- The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) staged a walkout from the Senate against non-issuance of Pakistani identity card and passport to the party Chief Altaf Hussain.
MQM Senator Tahir Mashadi said the government had not responded even a month after Hussain filed the application for his passport and ID card. He said officials of National Database and Regulatory Authority (NADRA) lied in the Senate's Standing Committee about not receiving Altaf Hussain's application. The Senator warned of closing down Karachi for a year if the government didn't issue the passport and ID card.
 
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Mi-5 giving him a safe passage to exit their country. They want to protect their "asset", yet do not want their country to be seen as a banana republic with some individuals being above the law. They basically don't want to jail their reliable asset. I'm not a big fan of Najam Sethi, but he exposed Altaf Bhai's real masters.
 
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If he is not given Pakistani NICOP and passport then no one is a Pakistani, how is this for a statement :crazy:

So all these years there were no Pakistanis?

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MQM warns of Karachi lockdown if Altaf not issued NICOP, passport

The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) warned on Monday to lockdown the port city if the National Identity Card for Overseas Pakistanis (NICOP) and passport were not issued to party Chief Altaf Hussain, DawnNews reported.

MQM’s Rabita (coordination) Committee, in an official statement issued here, condemned the National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra) for using delay tactics in the issuance of NICOP to Altaf Hussain.

The statement said the party and its workers would stage a countrywide protest if the NICOP was not issued to the MQM chief, who is living in a self-imposed exile in London for over 20 years.

The committee termed the denial of card to Hussain by the authorities as “unconstitutional and unjustified in light of the fundamental rights guaranteed.”

Senator Tahir Mashhadi of MQM also warned of closing down Karachi for a year if the government failed to issue passport and identity card to Altaf Hussain.

The party has demanded that the president, prime minister and federal interior minister should take notice of the matter and take action against those creating hurdles in issuance of relevant documents to the MQM leader.

Altaf expresses concerns over officials’ statements
In a statement issued from London, the MQM chief said that statements of the additional interior secretary and the DG passports in the Senate have caused him shock and distress.

The officials asserted that the ministry of interior had not received any application for passport or identity card in a meeting of Senate’s committee on interior held earlier today.

“I would like to tell high officials of Interior ministry and federal government that I had applied for a Pakistani passport on April 4 in the presence of members of Rabita Committee, MQM’s office bearers and workers,” said Hussain.

“I was told by the passport officials at the embassy that I would have to get a NICOP for this purpose. I went to Nadra office with Pakistan’s Ambassador Wajid Shamsul Hasan, MQM’s office bearers and other supporters.”

The MQM chief said that Federal Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan can confirm this Ambassador Hasan. He also said that he has receipt and tracking id.

Hussain said that despite fulfilling all the requirements of Nadra, he had not received his NICOP card yet.

“How can I apply for a passport when I don’t have the NICOP card,” he said.

The MQM chief urged the government and the concerned department to stop their discriminatory attitude towards him.

“Otherwise, my millions of supporters across the globe can stage protest over this injustice and biased attitude,” he warned in the statement.

“Interior Ministry and its officials should not try to make the matter worse. They must show sagacity and investigate into the matter and try to find out the people who have displayed strong bias against a popular leader of the million people. What are their motives and why are they putting loyal Pakistanis in distress?”

“If I am not Pakistani then no one can claim that he is a Pakistani,” said the MQM chief.

MQM warns of Karachi lockdown if Altaf not issued NICOP, passport - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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