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Karachi slowly turning into lawless tribal area with brutal killings

That would be too much work and would require a lot of resources which are already limited.

We already have a Karachi and Gwadar, no need to spend money we don't have on trying to build replicas of these cities. Might as well the little money we have on a military operation in the city and in developing Gwadar.

Karachi must be deprived of its economic importance for a limited time (20-30 years) and must be rehabilitated under military authority.

The city is a mess in its current form.

these projects usually go on to complete in 10 years or so... if we start today, we might have it by 2030.
 
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yar you are right that these mafia thugs are known, the problem is when you start an operation, they disappear to their safe houses from Murree to Lahore to Wazirisitan to South Africa...

how can we do such an operation on 20 million people city with getting arrested/killed the exact known criminals?

Start hanging the ones that are aight and you'll see the difference... The thing is they know that nothing will happen so when the dust setlles they return to the same old game. Plus, so encounter will definitely need to be done, that's how most cities were reclaimed from similar situation around the world. It's achievble unless we as a nation are completely incompetent.
 
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these projects usually go on to complete in 10 years or so... if we start today, we might have it by 2030.

Too expensive. We can't even complete Gwadar on our own and need Chinese assistance. China only help us to develop Gwadar because it is of strategic significance to them and us. Building another Karachi or Gwadar would be a waste when we can use the little resources we have to further develop Gwadar and conduct a large scale military operation in Karachi.
 
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BLA is too few in numbers to take such a step. They only have support amongst a very few Baloch Nationalists who number perhaps in a few thousands. They cannot easily slip into Gwadar which is a brand new city well planned and can be easily monitored.
Karachi on the other hand has gotten out of control, ever criminal from Pakistan is probably hiding there, and criminal gangs and their political supporters have their own portions of the city under their own control, no gov.t authority in certain areas, there's corruption, rampant crime, drug smuggling, arms smuggling, sectarianism, extremism, and ethnic violence. And this city is the economic hub of Pakistan??


Karachi must be brought under military administration.



Is that all you can say? :lol: What a empty headed dog.

Out of government's control? Not really, the government (provincial PPP government) is one of the mafia controllers(aman committee) they are deliberately not controlling the situation. Bhai as I told you there are examples around the world where similar situation was brought under control.
 
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Start hanging the ones that are aight and you'll see the difference... The thing is they know that nothing will happen so when the dust setlles they return to the same old game. Plus, so encounter will definitely need to be done, that's how most cities were reclaimed from similar around the world.

you are absolutely right, that they know they will get away even with chopping off bodies, thats why they become more confident.. definitely to establish writ of the State, some bold steps are needed to be taken, even if they are not according the law of the land.
 
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Out of government's control? Not really, the government (provincial PPP government) is one of the mafia controllers(aman committee) they are deliberately not controlling the situation. Bhai as I told you there are examples around the world where similar situation was brought under control.


Then in such a case a military operation must be conducted and any political party found to be affiliated with the criminal organizations in the city must be dissolved and the leaderships arrested.
 
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democracy is the best revenge, enjoy democracy.
 
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you are absolutely right, that they know they will get away even with chopping off bodies, thats why they become more confident.. definitely to establish writ of the State, some bold steps are needed to be taken, even if they are not according the law of the land.


Military ops, curfew enforced, and any one with weapons and drugs arrested and executed (to be made an example of for the rest) and any political parties found to be involved with criminal gangs to be dissolved with their leaderships arrested and tried in military courts.
 
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Military ops, curfew enforced, and any one with weapons and drugs arrested and executed (to be made an example of for the rest) and any political parties found to be involved with criminal gangs to be dissolved with their leaderships arrested and tried in military courts.

if that could have solved anything, it would have solved, but it doesnot work that way, keep army out of it. else it would be a mess.

let the police do its job.
 
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if that could have solved anything, it would have solved, but it doesnot work that way, keep army out of it. else it would be a mess.

let the police do its job.

The police is corrupt to the core and has political affiliations. Army is a neutral force in this conflict of multiple political parties and their mafias.
 
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Strong intelligence work should be carried out and then should come a very precise strike on all criminal networks.
 
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The police is corrupt to the core and has political affiliations. Army is a neutral force in this conflict of multiple political parties and their mafias.

true, that doesnot mean it should not do its job, its police's job to maintain law and order, even in Rio, they didnt call in army to fix the mafia thugs, they trained and depoliticized their police to do the job... and they did a pretty good job..

Its not army's job, army's job is to secure the border from external threats and help in natural disasters.
 
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