Kabul rocked by powerful twin blasts, at least 50 Afghan forces killed and wounded by Taliban Humvee blast in Shirzad district

[jamahir]

Tribal and regressive according to u, but what did others bring? Corruption and anarchy.

You are correct to the extent that the in the 90s the Taliban managed to convince, by force or by word, the various warlords to effectively support Taliban and become one with it. But AFAIK almost all of those warlords were not much different in thinking than the Taliban.

Does it bother u indian muslims if cowpiss gulping RSS rules u as long as it brings development?

It does bother, yes, which is why there is dissent especially about the thinking Muslims.

One women?

I watched a vid recently where on an Indian street the woman interviewer asked two Afghan woman students about Afghanistan. The women said that back home a woman cannot walk with a man because someone will come up and ask them how that man is related to them. Isn't this not a sad situation ?

I am sure that one woman you ask about, speaks for so many Afghan women.

Be assured that majority will be happy and that brings stability and rule of law.

For how long will that majority be happy with living a dreary and dreadful life where the Taliban can find the slightest mistake and give a public lashing or execution ?

The Soviet installed socialist govt was as big a puppet as the current ghani regime.

Yes, the Soviet commandos assassinated one president and enabled another to take presidency but the Soviet military was in Afghanistan as a helper of a brotherly country, helping against Western-designed destabilization plot.

If the USSR had been present now it wouldn't have allowed the Western regime-change projects in Libya, Syria and Venezuela. Because, again, brotherly countries.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You are correct to the extent that the in the 90s the Taliban managed to convince, by force or by word, the various warlords to effectively support Taliban and become one with it. But AFAIK almost all of those warlords were not much different in thinking than the Taliban.



It does bother, yes, which is why there is dissent especially about the thinking Muslims.



I watched a vid recently where on an Indian street the woman interviewer asked two Afghan woman students about Afghanistan. The women said that back home a woman cannot walk with a man because someone will come up and ask them how that man is related to them. Isn't this not a sad situation ?

I am sure that one woman you ask about, speaks for so many Afghan women.



For how long will that majority be happy with living a dreary and dreadful life where the Taliban can find the slightest mistake and give a public lashing or execution ?



Yes, the Soviet commandos assassinated one president and enabled another to take presidency but the Soviet military was in Afghanistan as a helper of a brotherly country, helping against Western-designed destabilization plot.

If the USSR had been present now it wouldn't have allowed the Western regime-change projects in Libya, Syria and Venezuela. Because, again, brotherly countries.

So when are indian so called "Muslim" men going to start to fighting back like REAL men against the indian hindu rss/sanghi extremists?

 

[jamahir]

So when are indian so called "Muslim" men going to start to fighting back like REAL men against the indian hindu rss/sanghi extremists?

As of 2019, there are five to six million RSS members in the country with a further 180 million more in the BJP. How do you propose "real Indian Muslim men" guide them to the right path ?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

To curry favour with the Americans ? Zia was also a fundamentalist so he didn't want the godless communist/socialist system spreading further south. To save Islam from communism, basically.

Later Pakistani rulers and the military also were of the opinion than an Islamist ruled Afghanistan would provide Pakistan with "strategic depth". A big pool of hardened jihadists to deploy against India in Kashmir.

So Pakistan had to stop Soviet invasion up to Karachi because "we mooslim terrorists couldn't tolerate atheism"?

There was no other reason for Pakistan to want to keep the red army out of Pakistan other than simple religious differences, right? How intolerant of us.

 

[Sine Nomine]

So why did Zia ul Haq's Pakistan government interfere in Afghanistan's internal matter in the 1980s, to the extent of collaborating with Western governments in destroying the socialist governance of that country ?

Why did USSR killed Daud khan and then Hafizullah Amin?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

As of 2019, there are five to six million RSS members in the country with a further 180 million more in the BJP. How do you propose "real Indian Muslim men" counter them ?

So then worry about that rather than worrying about Pakistanis or Afghans. We don't give a damn about what happens to you so you don't give a damn about what happens to us.

 

[TNT]

You are correct to the extent that the in the 90s the Taliban managed to convince, by force or by word, the various warlords to effectively support Taliban and become one with it. But AFAIK almost all of those warlords were not much different in thinking than the Taliban.



It does bother, yes, which is why there is dissent especially about the thinking Muslims.



I watched a vid recently where on an Indian street the woman interviewer asked two Afghan woman students about Afghanistan. The women said that back home a woman cannot walk with a man because someone will come up and ask them how that man is related to them. Isn't this not a sad situation ?

I am sure that one woman you ask about, speaks for so many Afghan women.



For how long will that majority be happy with living a dreary and dreadful life where the Taliban can find the slightest mistake and give a public lashing or execution ?



Yes, the Soviet commandos assassinated one president and enabled another to take presidency but the Soviet military was in Afghanistan as a helper of a brotherly country, helping against Western-designed destabilization plot.

If the USSR had been present now it wouldn't have allowed the Western regime-change projects in Libya, Syria and Venezuela. Because, again, brotherly countries.

Yup all that brotherly country excuses big powers use. The results showed soviets how wrong they were lolz.
The thing is u ppl dnt know ground dynamics of Afghanistan like we do. Its same as we dnt know about bhutan. What u fail to understand is that priority in decades and decades of war is to halt the infighting first. After this you can move on and governance evolves. Puppet regimes like socialist soviet installed or american installed ghani have failed to halt the infighting even with huge forces and money. Soviets left and so are the americans, its only been taliban that halted the flight. So any person with common sense would want them to take reign and then engage to evolve their governance. Already taliban have admitted to being too strict and have hinted at a governance acceptable to the world. Ofcourse the liberals and puppet regime supporters will make noise, doesn't make them right or wrong.

 

[Dalit]

Some people are worried that Peace deal won't work. They need to ask who is going to fund a never ending war in Afghanistan now? Americans realized it after spending trillions of dollars. While the usual blame always falls on Pakistan but when you dig deeper you realize that Afghanistan has internal problems which have nothing to do with Pakistan. Drug lords, warlords, militants, smugglers and everyone else is on sale and there is no unity for a united country. There is a reason why Americans are pissed at Ghani and apparantly want to throw Kabul regime under the bus.

All of that is true, but the US deep state fails to acknowledge the internal problems of Afghanistan. Instead it squarely blames Pakistan for all the negatives in Afghanistan.

 

[ayodhyapati]

And these "Good Taliban" are the ones who are being brought into power by the Americans after the latter leave the country.

pakistanis are supporting and trying bringing them to power . hope biden thinks otherwise .

 

[-=virus=-]

So Pakistan had to stop Soviet invasion up to Karachi because "we mooslim terrorists couldn't tolerate atheism"?

There was no other reason for Pakistan to want to keep the red army out of Pakistan other than simple religious differences, right? How intolerant of us.

Ok, so school me, I honestly don't know. Was the red army really planning to march down all the way to Karachi ?

Also, never said anything about "you mooslim terrorists" or anything, there was no need for that comment by you.

Don't think I said anything wrong or misleading though, we've very likely both seen Zbignew Brazinski's famous bullhorn speech about "God is on your side". Zia also was a fundamentalist who.. you know this stuff better than me probably. These are facts.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Simply put, no country besides US will ever use nukes as it will be suicide. Israel and Iran will have to fight conventionally and you know who wins that war.

Read up on The Samson Option when you have the time.

 

[Vapnope]

All of that is true, but the US deep state fails to acknowledge the internal problems of Afghanistan. Instead it squarely blames Pakistan for all the negatives in Afghanistan.

Deep down they know what a mess Afghanistan is hence the deal.

 

[Dalit]

Deep down they know what a mess Afghanistan is hence the deal.

The deal is broken as we speak.

 

[GHALIB]

So when are indian so called "Muslim" men going to start to fighting back like REAL men against the indian hindu rss/sanghi extremists?

indian muslims have privileged pure hindu dna , they can not support terrorists .

The deal is broken as we speak.

the deal will be broken thousand times to defeat terrorists .

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Ok, so school me, I honestly don't know. Was the red army really planning to march down all the way to Karachi ?

Also, never said anything about "you mooslim terrorists" or anything, there was no need for that comment by you.

Don't think I said anything wrong or misleading though, we've very likely both seen Zbignew Brazinski's famous bullhorn speech about "God is on your side". Zia also was a fundamentalist who.. you know this stuff better than me probably. These are facts.

Wars are fought because they need fighting. There is no doubt that USSR - possibly with Indian tacit approval, definitely with the added toxicity of Kabuli nationalist fervour - would have marched into Pakistan if they hadn't been stopped in Afghanistan. The old expression of "there are no atheists on battlefields" comes to mind - this is the simple pointed reality of warfare, even in this era where many nations are technically of a secular identity definition. Your post gave undue emphasis to religious narratives, as is unfortunately inevitable these days with wars involving Muslim majority nations. Don't forget, most of the bitterest fighting was between Muslims during the Soviet Afghanistan campaign.