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A funny anecdote about Jinnah an AKA,
Jinnah used to say "after we have divided, we (India and Pakistan) can come together, we can co-operate"..to which Maulana replied "this is divorce before marriage".
Well the credit of uniting India was in the hands of British, so what does Mullah have to say about it.. Having kids before the mother?
Well the credit of uniting India was in the hands of British, so what does Mullah have to say about it.. Having kids before the mother?
I still don't get this thread, why does eulogizing Jinnah mean to demonize Azad?
Under the british there were 600 princely states. The modern concept of nationalism is a new one - to india, pakistan and to saudi arabia where you live. You can say we all are children of the british
OTOH Hindus and Muslims lived together for thousand years, thus proving the two nation theory concept is a modern concept too. A concept that is also a british gift.
BTW have you read the declassified secret correspondence between Azad and that staunch imperialist Churchill, secret because it was addressed to Churchill's secretary? That Churchill and Azad talked about not meeting publically ''in order to maintain the facade''? That not surprisingly Azad never spent a day in British jail? Oh thats not Azad!
Truly british children sir, not without a mother, be proud.
Did that great Maulana predicted the massacre of Muslims in Gujarat, the demolition of the Babri mosque by the Hindu fanatics and the murder of thousands of Kahmiris by the Indian army in shinning India? He must have knows it as he was not a alcohol consuming lowly second generation Hindu convert, the pure Afghan and Arab blood was running in his golden veins.
Trolling alerts..Libya was part of the Berber Lands conquered by Romans. Libyan arabs fought the colonial Italians.Libya or Pakistan are examples of names which were never heard of before.
This Baath party is the precise reason why Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Libya are all failed states while Egypt was put back in control by Hosni Mubarak.Consider that the Baath movement which was basically an Arab socialist movement founded by a Arab Christian, Sunni Muslim and a Shia Alawaite became one of the most powerful forces establishing itself in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Egypt - the largest Arab country.
Consider this, Maulana Azad who had an Arab mother and a Bengali father and was born in Mecca. Who studies Quranic commentary and Islamic knowledge professionally and came from a linage of Islamic scholars. HE concluded that the very idea of Pakistan is UnIslamic because the name implies that the world is divided into pure and impure. A notion that is UnIslamic in itself.
On the other hand, Jinnah had no Islamic training or knowledge. If I want to know about history, I would go to a historian. If I want to know about health I would prefer a doctor. Similarly, Maulana Azad is much more credible to give viewpoint according to Islamic theology.
However, Jinnah never really claimed to to make his basis of Pakistan on Islamic theology to be fair. It was about politics. His vision did not see how the partition of Punjab would lead to millions of Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs dying. Neither did the British or Congress leaders.
Someone mentioned the Gujarat riots as a reason to disparage Maulana Azad. Then the fact that millions died in the partition is enough to show that "partition would result in a peaceful settlement" according to Jinnah was proved a failure right then. He had possibly realized before his death that he was used as a pawn unwittingly perhaps to create a subservient state for its own interests. Not to mention the added five Balochistan insurgences and the 300,000 killed in East Pakistan. Gujarat riots and all riots in independent India would pale in comparison in these numbers.
The Quaid is a great leader, responsible for changing the world, Azad is an "indian" and lets leave it at that.
The land comprising Pakistan - formed some of the earliest human civilizations - something all Pakistanis can be proud of.
The Quaid was truly a great man. May he RIP.
A man who created a nation from nothing