JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[Hallian_Khan]

Love this ... apologies if shared before. Cheers

is it jf17...?

 

[Dazzler]

Block 3???

 

[Jinn Baba]

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Which aircraft is that?

 

[GumNaam]

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its gotta be a much older pic, definitely not the JFT at all, not even a single LCD...

 

[MastanKhan]

Marginally better than what u have seen at level flight, better than falcon, gripen & flankers.
Gentleman can fall like a stone.

Hi,

Please expand on that---.

Sometimes I feel like a rock and want to fall on someone's head---hehehehehehe

 

[messiach]

Me too..

ITR is a fancy term, a theoratical calculation. Its a position that an airworthy platform assumes where it looses speed, altitude, attitude & corrective adjustment or marginal adjustment. STR is opposite where you assume a new position remainig within the flight envelope without loss of speed, alt&att. Trying with ITR is like playing with fire without a fire protection. Never advise in combat.

Hi,

Please expand on that---.

Sometimes I feel like a rock and want to fall on someone's head---hehehehehehe

 

[devil302]

is it jf17...?

obviously

 

[Ali_Baba]

its gotta be a much older pic, definitely not the JFT at all, not even a single LCD...

It is of the pre-production JF17(which also had wing fences) cockpit.

 

[Asad-Ali]

Probably @TaimiKhan is talking about observing something similar to the following:

17 seconds onwards, the engine is probably at idle and full air brakes deployed...just guessing, the experts know better.

Hey! Look closely at 10 seconds what is this in front of jf17's nose cone ?

 

[Shane]

Hey! Look closely at 10 seconds what is this in front of jf17's nose cone ?

Looks like a subsonic mini vapor cone, also visible around 4th second.

 

[CriticalThought]

Me too..

ITR is a fancy term, a theoratical calculation. Its a position that an airworthy platform assumes where it looses speed, altitude, attitude & corrective adjustment or marginal adjustment. STR is opposite where you assume a new position remainig within the flight envelope without loss of speed, alt&att. Trying with ITR is like playing with fire without a fire protection. Never advise in combat.

Air combat is about gambits. You take .chances. If ITR surprises the bogey on your six, ITR can save your life. If ITR brings you into the sweet spot for taking the shot, ITR will make your day. Delta's are well known for quick, high angle ITR which makes keeping at their six very impractical. There is a Greek DACT video between viper and Mirage 2K where Viper keeps making the mistake of relying on STR. The alti and speed lost in ITR can be regained.

 

[messiach]

All modern fighters incld. falcon, FC1, rafael have builtin FCR in FE to prohibit ITR.

Air combat is about gambits. You take .chances. If ITR surprises the bogey on your six, ITR can save your life. If ITR brings you into the sweet spot for taking the shot, ITR will make your day. Delta's are well known for quick, high angle ITR which makes keeping at their six very impractical. There is a Greek DACT video between viper and Mirage 2K where Viper keeps making the mistake of relying on STR. The alti and speed lost in ITR can be regained.

 

[CriticalThought]

All modern fighters incld. falcon, FC1, rafael have builtin FCR in FE to prohibit ITR.

We are mixing the stalls below corner speed with ITR.

http://navyflightmanuals.tpub.com/P-821/Corner-Speed-200.htm

 

[messiach]

ITR bleedoffs offsets minimum permissible variables eg speed. Best an extreme evasive! manouver.

We are mixing the stalls below corner speed with ITR.

http://navyflightmanuals.tpub.com/P-821/Corner-Speed-200.htm

 

[mkg00179504]

What about this as a Package, damn