Yeah, I see. Even ourself are confused with these information, but some obvious errors make it unreliable.
A new example is WS-17, either a 3,500 kgf engine or a 4th generation medium propulsion engine which can be used by JF-17.
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A new example is WS-17, either a 3,500 kgf engine or a 4th generation medium propulsion engine which can be used by JF-17.
Oscar, does it helps in understanding more of WZ-9 turboshaft by posting these extract full of dubious and error?
Is WZ-16 when its completed, going to be used in WZ-10 or is it meant just for Z-20?
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And what not?
Accurate translation help. Without ifs and buts. A lot of Chinese publications and interviews are out there, but there is a language barrier(as with any other language other than english) and it would be good if Chinese members here help elucidate what is being said from time to time.
OK, something more confused come.
In 2012, 新型的某型號渦扇發動機已經定型,將成為多型號飛機的動力
航空航天 支橕安順後發趕超 --貴州日報
however，
问：枭龙战斗机采用的“泰山”发动机，是中航工业第一个自行立项的中等推力涡扇发动机研制项目，由中航工业涡轮院和贵发所共同研制。请您简要介绍一下这款发动机。
王永明：“泰山”发动机是一款性能优异的中等推力涡扇发动机，可以作为轻型多用途战斗机、高端无人作战飞机、中型舰载机以及歼击轰炸机等的动力装置。该发动机由集团公司立项，贵发所设计、黎阳公司总装总试，全行业共同参与研制，已前后经历10年时间， 目前已进入定型考核阶段，预计2014年可完成发动机定型
So，WS-13 or WS-13B will be installed in JF-17 is still a question
Pakistan and China to switch to Chinese-made fighter jointly developed "JF-17", within two years the engine - Chinese media
February 15, 2014
Singapore Air Show, which kicked off on the 11th, in the China Aviation Industry Group Corporation under the umbrella of higher training aircraft fighter "JF-17", "L-15", unmanned aircraft medium domestic and international ocean-going technology-out opening and "SN-209" the display and has received attention. Was developed in collaboration with Pakistan "JF-17", and plans to switch to the Made in China within two years the engine. Ring-and-ball network told the 12th.
Currently, "JF-17" is equipped with a turbo fan engine of the Russian-made "RD-33". China and Russia are negotiating to change to that of a large engine from 2005, but is viewed from India in this deal, planning has not progressed.
"And testing. Pilot production, test flight to be switched to domestic in soon is progressing, as a result of going to satisfied with 1-2 years, you will get an" Liu 宇回 Deputy General Manager of medium domestic technology-out opening for this engine I revealed the.
Countries such as Bangladesh and Egypt that shows the intention of purchase for the "JF-17".
(Editorial-translational Onda Yuki)
中国とパキスタンが共同開発の戦闘機「ＪＦ－１７」、エンジンを２年以内に中国製に切り替え―中国メディア｜中国情報の日本語メディア―XINHUA.JP - 中国の経済情報を中心としたニュースサイト。分析レポートや特集、調査、インタビュー記事なども豊富に配信。
February 15, 2014
Singapore Air Show, which kicked off on the 11th, in the China Aviation Industry Group Corporation under the umbrella of higher training aircraft fighter "JF-17", "L-15", unmanned aircraft medium domestic and international ocean-going technology-out opening and "SN-209" the display and has received attention. Was developed in collaboration with Pakistan "JF-17", and plans to switch to the Made in China within two years the engine. Ring-and-ball network told the 12th.
Currently, "JF-17" is equipped with a turbo fan engine of the Russian-made "RD-33". China and Russia are negotiating to change to that of a large engine from 2005, but is viewed from India in this deal, planning has not progressed.
"And testing. Pilot production, test flight to be switched to domestic in soon is progressing, as a result of going to satisfied with 1-2 years, you will get an" Liu 宇回 Deputy General Manager of medium domestic technology-out opening for this engine I revealed the.
Countries such as Bangladesh and Egypt that shows the intention of purchase for the "JF-17".
(Editorial-translational Onda Yuki)
中国とパキスタンが共同開発の戦闘機「ＪＦ－１７」、エンジンを２年以内に中国製に切り替え―中国メディア｜中国情報の日本語メディア―XINHUA.JP - 中国の経済情報を中心としたニュースサイト。分析レポートや特集、調査、インタビュー記事なども豊富に配信。
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Saturday, February 15, 2014
Current Status of JF-17
As PAC starts the production of second block of JF-17, it's good to take a look at where the project is right now. I won't go over the history of the project, since that can be found online or any of the many forums. At this point, PAF remains the only operator of JF-17.
They have finished the production of the first block of 50 JF-17s out of the 150 they ordered. There have been persistent news coming out of Pakistan that more will be ordered, but I don't think that's finalized. By all account, PAF has been fairly satisfied with the performance of the aircraft and the project as a whole. I don't have the latest number, but PAC is now capable of producing most parts of JF-17 with engine been the lone major subsystem that is outside their expertise.
There have been numerous reports of sales to other country, but none of them have concluded. There were the 12 JF-17s to Zimbabwe and the 24 JF-17s to Azerbaijan, which never came to fruition. There were also the more persistent stories of concluded sales to Egypt and possible sales to Argentina. In the former case,
China lost the deal after Mubarak and the new government is now picking Mig-29s over JF-17s. In the latter case, Argentinian economy has bigger issues like hyperinflation to deal with and will not have the ability to purchase fighter jets anytime soon.
The problem for JF-17 has always been finding the right customers. China's traditional customers don't have the need or the money for something like JF-17. They have most opted for J-7s and K-8s in the recent years.
L-15 is fighting the same issues. In the more affluent markets, JF-17 has been fighting against used F-16s, Mig-29s and other better known 4th generation fighter jets with more customers. It's hard to make the case for JF-17 while PAF remains its only operator. Having said that, I think JF-17 still has a bright future. PAF have really made JF-17 project what it is today by discovering/expanding the flight envelopes of the aircraft and working with various Chinese firms to add support for SD-10A, SRAAM, C-802A, various PGMs and the infamous mach 4.5 CM-400AG.
We've heard recently that Saudi Arabia is interested in getting involved in the JF-17 project. Certainly, if KSA does purchase JF-17, that would be a huge shot in the arm for the entire program and its export prospects around the world (especially the rest of Muslim world).
More importantly, I think PLAAF will be placing orders for JF-17 in the next few years. In a recent interview from Singapore Air Show, the VP of AVIC-1 said that domestic engine options should be available for JF-17 soon. I have talked in the past that PLAAF is looking for a stripped down version of JF-17 that it can replace all the retiring J-7 regiments. There were a total of 10 J-7E and 3 J-7G regiments produced for PLAAF/PLANAF.
Based on the year they entered service and orbat data, most if not all of them should still be in service. There are also 10 or more J-8 regiments still in service including the very ancient J-8B aircraft. All of these regiments will need to be replaced. Although some of those regiments may be disbanded, there are not likely going to be enough J-10B and J-16 production to replace all of those retiring aircraft. There will probably be a total of less than 10 regiments of J-10B/J-16. By the time domestic engine (let's say WS-13) becomes ready for JF-17, some of the older J-7E regiments should be ready to retire. If CAC can meet PLAAF's cost requirements, then I think there will be order for several regiments of JF-17. Once PAF and PLAAF operate JF-17, I think you will see some export deals.
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Current Status of JF-17
As PAC starts the production of second block of JF-17, it's good to take a look at where the project is right now. I won't go over the history of the project, since that can be found online or any of the many forums. At this point, PAF remains the only operator of JF-17.
They have finished the production of the first block of 50 JF-17s out of the 150 they ordered. There have been persistent news coming out of Pakistan that more will be ordered, but I don't think that's finalized. By all account, PAF has been fairly satisfied with the performance of the aircraft and the project as a whole. I don't have the latest number, but PAC is now capable of producing most parts of JF-17 with engine been the lone major subsystem that is outside their expertise.
There have been numerous reports of sales to other country, but none of them have concluded. There were the 12 JF-17s to Zimbabwe and the 24 JF-17s to Azerbaijan, which never came to fruition. There were also the more persistent stories of concluded sales to Egypt and possible sales to Argentina. In the former case,
China lost the deal after Mubarak and the new government is now picking Mig-29s over JF-17s. In the latter case, Argentinian economy has bigger issues like hyperinflation to deal with and will not have the ability to purchase fighter jets anytime soon.
The problem for JF-17 has always been finding the right customers. China's traditional customers don't have the need or the money for something like JF-17. They have most opted for J-7s and K-8s in the recent years.
L-15 is fighting the same issues. In the more affluent markets, JF-17 has been fighting against used F-16s, Mig-29s and other better known 4th generation fighter jets with more customers. It's hard to make the case for JF-17 while PAF remains its only operator. Having said that, I think JF-17 still has a bright future. PAF have really made JF-17 project what it is today by discovering/expanding the flight envelopes of the aircraft and working with various Chinese firms to add support for SD-10A, SRAAM, C-802A, various PGMs and the infamous mach 4.5 CM-400AG.
We've heard recently that Saudi Arabia is interested in getting involved in the JF-17 project. Certainly, if KSA does purchase JF-17, that would be a huge shot in the arm for the entire program and its export prospects around the world (especially the rest of Muslim world).
More importantly, I think PLAAF will be placing orders for JF-17 in the next few years. In a recent interview from Singapore Air Show, the VP of AVIC-1 said that domestic engine options should be available for JF-17 soon. I have talked in the past that PLAAF is looking for a stripped down version of JF-17 that it can replace all the retiring J-7 regiments. There were a total of 10 J-7E and 3 J-7G regiments produced for PLAAF/PLANAF.
Based on the year they entered service and orbat data, most if not all of them should still be in service. There are also 10 or more J-8 regiments still in service including the very ancient J-8B aircraft. All of these regiments will need to be replaced. Although some of those regiments may be disbanded, there are not likely going to be enough J-10B and J-16 production to replace all of those retiring aircraft. There will probably be a total of less than 10 regiments of J-10B/J-16. By the time domestic engine (let's say WS-13) becomes ready for JF-17, some of the older J-7E regiments should be ready to retire. If CAC can meet PLAAF's cost requirements, then I think there will be order for several regiments of JF-17. Once PAF and PLAAF operate JF-17, I think you will see some export deals.
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New offering from Norinco. Does not say “TV” so I am assuming it offers less functions than the WMD-7 but I am not sure if it will do them better. i.e. being specialized.
New offering from Norinco. Does not say “TV” so I am assuming it offers less functions than the WMD-7 but I am not sure if it will do them better. i.e. being specialized.
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Nice one but might never materialize...FCK-1 taiwanese have a good cockpit visibility but Jf-17's is also good.
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Unable to find more info on OC5 IR Laser Pod
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Could not find anything either. Just that image and the one showing it used by the J-10 and guiding a bomb. …. …. I am sure we will get more in due time. I have learnt that they tend to tease … … release bits gradually at various defence exhibitions.
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