JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 5]

[VelocuR]

The presentation speech by Chief designer three years ago was just example. It doesn't mean we will going to put exactly place in front of cockpit, however, I believe the refueling probe will be longer than this short one.

Let's look at Columbia Airforce KFIRS, please keep it mind, Kfirs jets were Israeli made and deployed to Red Flag in Nellis for air to air exercises. The refueling design is very similar to our Mirage and JF-17s.

what if the IFR is just for the present Block 1?

could be the reason that their is not enough space in the nose section?

And since Block II from factory will be having IFR.which might have one similar to the J-10's?

Proposed JF-17 IFR from 2011 dubai airshow

In this picture the IFR is clearly in front of the intakes and closer to the Nose start such as on rafale

Now the one on the JF-17 released yesterday is clearly behind the Overall cockpit and intakes

 

[nomi007]

your guys need from that fuel or cat walk ? TBH?

beauty and beast

JF17 IFR probe is south african base
check it

and here is our Fierce Dragon

 

[Gryphon]

PAC announces start of JF-17 Block 2 construction

Farhan Bokhari, Kamra, Pakistan - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
18 December 2013

PAC has completed production of the Block 1 version of the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft. Source: IHS Global Limited/Patrick Allen

The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) on 18 December rolled out its 50th and final JF-17 Block 1 Thunder fighter aircraft, and announced the launch of Block 2 production.

A ceremony to mark the event at PAC's Kamra facility north of Islamabad was attended by prime minister Nawaz Sharif, who also witnessed the Pakistan Air Force and PAC sign a formal agreement with China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC) for joint international sales and marketing of the aircraft.

Sharif said the success of the JF-17 programme, a collaboration between China's Chengdu Aircraft Corporation and the PAF-run PAC, "shows that our air force is fully capable of defending our country".

According to a PAF press release, Block 2 JF-17s "will have improved versions of avionics sub-systems, air-to-air refuelling capability, additional weapon-carrying capability, optimised maintenance facilitation and some operational capabilities".

The statement did not provide further details on any of these systems but added that "Pakistan's share in co-production of the airframe of the JF-17 aircraft is 58%".

PAF officials at the 2013 Dubai Airshow told IHS Jane's that a Block 3 variant of the JF-17 "exists in the form of a conceptual design and a list of mission requirements but no concrete decisions have been made about the choice and configuration of the onboard systems for the aircraft". IHS Jane's All the World's Aircraft notes that the Block 3 upgrade is planned to be launched in 2016, and in the meantime CAC and PAC are collaborating in developing a combat-capable, two-seat conversion trainer variant that is expected to enhance export prospects.

Air Vice Marshal Javaid Ahmed, head of the JF-17 programme for the PAF, told IHS Jane's that potential customers for the existing version of the aircraft were likely to come from South America, Africa, the Middle East or Southeast Asia. "These countries of the developing world will be attracted to this aircraft given its specifications and a competitive price," he said.

ANALYSIS
Western analysts in Islamabad who are familiar with the progress of the JF-17 fighter plane said the PAF/PAC collaboration with CATIC is built primarily on providing developing countries with a cheaper alternative to expensive Western aircraft.

Although neither China nor Pakistan have publicly disclosed a price tag, a senior Pakistani government official told IHS Jane's that it could be in the range of around USD25 million per aircraft. A Western defence official based in Islamabad added that this price "could be about half to one-third of the price of a comparable Western fighter".

PAC announces start of JF-17 Block 2 construction - IHS Jane's 360

 

[trident2010]

You will see Typhoon and Rafale's common front IFR sticking out.

Only ugly thing in Rafale is this IFR !!

 

[Manticore]

If the blk2 gets a redesigned probe, then the question that comes to mind is why did PAC not design JFT with a refueling probe from the beginning? Its been years since mirage retrofit and midas induction.

A fixed probe will have a minimul effect on the RCS, specially when the aircraft is loaded with external weaspons/systems. why would they put a retractable probe which will increase the cost, the weight, the maintenance and the design complexity of the system. Also, where will a JF-17 have the system housed. It is a small aircraft and a retractable probe does not add much to its value.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Because the name China manufacturing seems very bad from the indian.my english is poor,Usually require the help of a dictionary.I am a chinese from GuiZhou Province ,or HaErbin.

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Yup = yes

 

[lutfishah]

Could you post the link please?

I don't think PAC ever had any supoprt or maint facilities for helicopters.

What kinds of upgrades exactly?

Thats because I heard yesterday on PTV talk show (don't remember the guest name but will find out) that we have started overhauling cobras as well.
And he also told that the americans were not helping us but we managed to do it our selves.

 

[Bratva]

If the blk2 gets a redesigned probe, then the question that comes to mind is why did PAC not design JFT with a refueling probe from the beginning? Its been years since mirage retrofit and midas induction.

As per reports, Musharraf rushed in the induction of JF-17. Originally it was planned to induct it in 2010 but musharraf pushed it to 2007. So some sacrifices were made like the Retractable IFR from sweden that we were going to put were dropped

 

[Edevelop]

Another view.

IFR is not as big as you think it is....

 

[Informant]

Pictures would be good for refreshing the memory. Do remember Prototype # 4 was last seen in China also.

Primarily for engine testing.

 

[alimobin memon]

By "Better Carriage Capability ", means increase payload or multiple ejector racks ? I wonder.

 

[Manticore]

start of the year

 

[Bilal.]

Primarily for engine testing.

What engine testing? WS-13? And what's the point when we are still stuck with rd-93 in block 2?

 

[Manticore]

 

[A.Rafay]

start of the year

Are these pics old or new?