JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[Umair Nawaz]

Length: 14.0m
Height: 5.1m
Wingspan: 8.5m
Normal Take-off Weight: 9,100kg
Maximum Take-off Weight: 12,700kg
Maximum Thrust 8,700kg (afterburn)
Maximum External Stores: 4,600kg
Take-off and Landing Distance: 380/650m
Max Speed (mach): 1.6
Service ceiling: <16,700m
Ferry range: 2037km

specs of blk1 jf-17 and

http://i.imgur.com/lc23o.png
http://i.imgur.com/360Za.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RsYlX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vMojW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DjPSE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Uz7Xk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5qMEz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1ZRDj.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2e240er.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0QHaN.jpg[
http://i.imgur.com/k0Ivr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wUjov.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Uz7Xk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kSWmW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LnIZj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vu4uE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/E72Rq.jpg

comparison with gripen
http://i.imgur.com/KLaNd.png
http://i.imgur.com/GVFjn.jpg


*specs taken from dubai air show presentations and jf-17 brochures

*the conditions ,parameters under which climb rate / thrust to wt etc have been evaluated might not be standardised or fully disclosed

*All the values ive posted are from open published sources , so if there are confusions , its upto the companies to clear up

*..... however jft blk1 is not that obsolete as you suspect .. its better than gripenA & thats why i didnt use gripenA's specs.. I used a somewhat comparable block's specs

* we dont know the exact RCS of jft ... If jft was a canards fighters , some people wouldve jumped up and down saying it has greater rcs due to canards

* we dont know the wing loading of the fighter
[ a ground attack role fighter generally has a higher wing loading -
low wing loading is for performing at higher altitudes---multirole aircraft has to find a proper balance..]

* we dont know the AoA of jft -- f-18 has one of the highest values .. and jft would be comparable
[prominent lerx/strakes---> upto 50% increase in max lift , low/moderate swept wing---> better at lower speed performance , spin resistance etc ]

* methods of rcs reduction is a natural step forwards and hopefully would be employed in blk2 along with other gadgets we are reading about in the jft info pool

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...istan-will-soon-get-j10-24.html#ixzz2HkguEIFZ

I think their is some mistake here......

Normal take off weight - 9.1 Tonne{jet with full internal Fuel}


Maximum Take Off Weight - 12.7 {Jet+Fuel+External Load}

That means

Maximum External load - 3.6 Tonne {12.7 Tonne - 9.1 Tonne}

They r with 4000 maximum. PAF says that they r with 3800 but it can be extended to 4000 maximum.

 

[fatman17]

^ all depends on load configuration

it was rumoured that 3rd JFT squadron will stand up on 10th Jan - today is 12th Jan?
any news!!!!!

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

They r with 4000 maximum. PAF says that they r with 3800 but it can be extended to 4000 maximum.

even it extend to 4000 kg then also Chinese specifications are wrong....their are three sets of specifications "on is Chinese" and "one is Pak " and one is with if n ***** ....This happen first time same plane clamming to be different specifications....

 

[farhan_9909]

even it extend to 4000 kg then also Chinese specifications are wrong....their are three sets of specifications "on is Chinese" and "one is Pak " and one is with if n ***** ....This happen first time same plane clamming to be different specifications....

the Pakistani specs are very old and not updated from the past atleast 4-5 years

Chinese specs are credible and updated as well

 

[Mani2020]

^ all depends on load configuration

it was rumoured that 3rd JFT squadron will stand up on 10th Jan - today is 12th Jan?
any news!!!!!

that word says it all sir

 

[Luftwaffe]

some romanians tv telejurnal are claiming IAR-93 retired in 1993 revived and developed by China as JF-17. Fanboys have visual identification problem. That IAR-93 is copy of folland gnat combined with prototype sepecat jaguar.

 

[Mani2020]

some romanians tv telejurnal are claiming IAR-93 retired in 1993 revived and developed by China as JF-17. Fanboys have visual identification problem. That IAR-93 is copy of folland gnat combined with prototype sepecat jaguar.

fcuk ....those insane dont even have seen IAR-93 in their life and i bet you on that ....which part of IAR-93 resembles with jf-17 .....side intakes? twin engine? LERX (heck the poor bird even doesnt have them) or a super speed of 680mph

 

[Luftwaffe]

fcuk ....those insane dont even have seen IAR-93 in their life and i bet you on that ....which part of IAR-93 resembles with jf-17 .....side intakes? twin engine? LERX (heck the poor bird even doesnt have them) or a super speed of 680mph

I still say IAR-93 has more in commonality with Folland gnat mixed with Sepecat Jaguar just open google and check all three pics side by side.

Also they consider IAR-95 to be more in common with JF-17 in design, but I think IAR-95 has more commonality with F-1/F-16 and there is no official design to support rather fanboy designs on google the more I dig it had mix concept of F-1/F-16 there are even designs that are mix of F-16 combined with SU-24.

 

[Manticore]

^ most of these european / latin american forums are slowly coming around .. awareness of the design upgradations since prototype 04 is now generally known among neutral forums
FC-1/JF-17 eficiencia a bajo coste | Página 23 | Foros Zona Militar

atleast the members on this forum give a link [source] of def.pk when posting the info ... other forums dont give source of our forum...


I post in some western forums aswell .. I just give them a small tid bit and say that reference from defence.pk --- I have yet to see any one object to me for giving credits/refrence to def.pk


Husnain also posts in a western forum .. and gives links/refrence to info pool ---- so this is the way to grow awareness of the forum and jf-17 ... not copy pasting without giving credits from a-z in forums where you are only ridiculed even after all the effort

 

[Mani2020]

I still say IAR-93 has more in commonality with Folland gnat mixed with Sepecat Jaguar just open google and check all three pics side by side.

Also they consider IAR-95 to be more in common with JF-17 in design, but I think IAR-95 has more commonality with F-1/F-16 and there is no official design to support rather fanboy designs on google the more I dig it had mix concept of F-1/F-16 there are even designs that are mix of F-16 combined with SU-24.

mate i was also on the same point that iar-93 has nothing in common with jf-17 neither has iar-95 anything to do with it ....the nose cone seems like to be f-16 ones ....the aircraft has side intakes while for jf-7 the intakes are at bottom, tail also doesnot resemble ...LERX are there but so what even f-18 has those .....overall the aircraft looks 60 % of an f-16 if one ignores the fact that f-16 has different kind of intake

 

[Luftwaffe]

ANTIBODY; I'm enjoying the link innocent discussing on JFT.

 

[Manticore]

i brought the above link to your notice for a reason --- some one did mention mig21 and iar-93 on that thread some pages back ... but members responded to him themselves , based on the info posted on def. pk ---- this is an accomplishment that we should be proud of


In some forums ive posted 'defence.pk' in my signature or location and those forums have not objected to it and I respect those forums for this kind gesture ... this is a reason why i mentioned the above forum aswell , as they posted our back links and gave credits to defence.pk

 

[Nishan_101]

So INSHA ALLAH Block-IIs will have composite, IFRP, FLIR with IRST pods and WS-13(100KN with Russian tech or TOT) and we have some news as well about the dual seat version of Block-IIs...

INSHA ALLAH PAC will going to produce about 100 of these birds in coming 5 years...

 

[SQ8]

So INSHA ALLAH Block-IIs will have composite, IFRP, FLIR with IRST pods and WS-13(100KN with Russian tech or TOT) and we have some news as well about the dual seat version of Block-IIs...

INSHA ALLAH PAC will going to produce about 100 of these birds in coming 5 years...

Nope... All block-II will have is a fixed IFR probe and improved avionics over the Block-I(or BATCH-I)
Targeting pods are already operational with the first batch.

 

[Mani2020]

JF-17 .... buahahaha

you are asking for a ban kid !!!!!!