JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[MastanKhan]

Hi

brother this is common around the world.rumours are part of Pakistan and unfortunately china as well.our development/upgrade programs are not as open as in india/usa/russia.

hence we had to rely on rumours.beside this,this is an open forum and rumours are part of discussion as well.

Hi,

First of all---you ought to know by now---I am nobody's brother and I don't address anyone as such---the reason behind it---'paks' are extremely deceitful when they call each other 'brother'---no pun intended.

It is understood that there are rumor mills going around 24/7--- but the thing is when you are right and enjoy the glory unabashedly---then when you are wrong be ready for a little ar-se chewing as well---don't start to whimper like a you know who---.

It is the 'ME' first post syndrome over here on this board---I posted it first kind of mentality---I told you so----I was the first one---I know it all---I have the source---my source told me so---.

You children need to develop thick skins and take it with a smile----and be thankful and greatful that some one is showing you the direction to growing up.

Now what was the rumor---I don't even know about it---and I have no clue who started it or where it came from---I just commented for the sake of those---if you ride on tigers and you fall down---then be ready for the claws and the fangs---and that is all---.

You kids need to stop living with excuses.

 

[sancho]

Yes,same can be said about MMRCA.
How many times dates announced in the news and well known news outlets,and still nothing concrete.
Point being 'you cant shoot the messenger'.

Not really, we had many official specs and reliable reports from trials, or vendors, that's not hearsay at all. That is not the case for JF 17 or Chinese fighters in general, which makes it more difficult to learn about the real capabilities and not only dream configurations. That's why I appreciate Antibodys work in this and other forums, to give people a more realistic view on JF 17 and it's progress.

 

[Donatello]

Okay, so what rumor are we talking about?

Anyone care to elaborate?

 

[MZUBAIR]

I am back at PDF after so many months?

1) After up gradations of year and so, what are JF-17 Current specifications?
2) What is the list of weapons?
3) What are the number of JF-17 Block I in PAF?
4) What is the status of JF-17 Block II?

 

[Bossman]

Hi,

Somebody has to put you kids in place----.

There are others who put Mastan in please along with his condescending attitude.

 

[MastanKhan]

There are others who put Mastan in please along with his condescending attitude.

Hi,

You can try---I never take offence to that. Just show me your mettle----and some real 'product' knowledge---some strategic discussion. My ego means nothing---nipping at my heels ain't going to do you any good---but to satisfy your urge.

 

[yusheng]

some income double seats JF17, for reference:

草根版-成飞“枭龙”双座教练/战斗机，基本数据（仅供参考）


翼展： 9.40　米　（不含翼尖导弹）
机长： 14.62　米　（不含空速管）
机高： 4.92　米
机翼面积： 　　28.20平方米
主翼后掠角：　　　40.00度
后缘前掠角：　　　2.50度
主翼展弦比：　　　　　2.98
垂尾后掠角：　　45　　度
平尾后掠角：　　42　　度

主轮距： 2.54米
前主轮距： 4.98米
正常起飞重量： 10500千克
最大起飞重量： 15000千克
外挂能力： 4800千克
发动机：WS-13改进型，推力9500千克

最大马赫数： M1.7
实用升限： 17000米
起飞滑跑距离： 420米
着陆滑跑距离： 650米
转场航程： 3000千米
限制过载： 8G

i am sorry for showing Chinese, hope some one can translate it into English, thanks

 

[khanasifm]

The grassroots Edition - Cheng Fei "Fierce Dragon" seat trainer / fighter, basic data (for reference only)


Wingspan: 9.40 m (without wingtip missile)
Length: 14.62 m (excluding pitot tubes)
Height: 4.92 m
Wing area: 28.20 m2
Main wing sweep angle: 40.00 degrees
Trailing edge sweep angle: 2.50 degrees
Main wing aspect ratio: 2.98
Vertical tail sweep angle: 45 degrees
Hirao sweep angle: 42 degrees

Major Track: 2.54 m
Former Major Track: 4.98 m
Normal takeoff weight: 10,500 kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 15,000 kg
Plug-in capacity: 4800 kg
Engine: WS-13 Improved thrust of 9500 kg

Maximum Mach number: M1.7
Service ceiling: 17,000 m
Takeoff distance: 420 meters
Landing roll distance: 650 meters
Ferry range: 3,000 km
Limit overload: 8G

some income double seats JF17, for reference:

草根版-成飞“枭龙”双座教练/战斗机，基本数据（仅供参考）


翼展： 9.40　米　（不含翼尖导弹）
机长： 14.62　米　（不含空速管）
机高： 4.92　米
机翼面积： 　　28.20平方米
主翼后掠角：　　　40.00度
后缘前掠角：　　　2.50度
主翼展弦比：　　　　　2.98
垂尾后掠角：　　45　　度
平尾后掠角：　　42　　度

主轮距： 2.54米
前主轮距： 4.98米
正常起飞重量： 10500千克
最大起飞重量： 15000千克
外挂能力： 4800千克
发动机：WS-13改进型，推力9500千克

最大马赫数： M1.7
实用升限： 17000米
起飞滑跑距离： 420米
着陆滑跑距离： 650米
转场航程： 3000千米
限制过载： 8G

i am sorry for showing Chinese, hope some one can translate it into English, thanks

 

[Gentelman]

Hi

brother this is common around the world.rumours are part of Pakistan and unfortunately china as well.our development/upgrade programs are not as open as in india/usa/russia.

hence we had to rely on rumours.beside this,this is an open forum and rumours are part of discussion as well.

agreed with you.
here much things are kept secret...i.e mk series of bombs...
i.e the news on tv channels or news papers is always of testing or induction rather than development...
and much people dont know what our army have....
majority are those who rely on tv....
i suppose our policy is different...

 

[farhan_9909]

possibly jft 3

 

[monitor]

The Xiaolong aircraft supplementary design through the identification review

Source: AVIC aviation equipment Date :2012 -12-25

December 21st, AVIC aviation equipment "Fierce Dragon" aircraft (weapon II) supplement design qualification review will be held in Chengdu, Sichuan. "Fierce Dragon" Weapons II project is the successful completion of the aircraft and avionics weapons systems to improve the design and testing work, passed a supplementary design qualification review, and has laid a solid foundation to further explore the international market.

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Is it about JF-17 ?

 

[yusheng]

The Xiaolong aircraft supplementary design through the identification review

Source: AVIC aviation equipment Date :2012 -12-25

December 21st, AVIC aviation equipment "Fierce Dragon" aircraft (weapon II) supplement design qualification review will be held in Chengdu, Sichuan. "Fierce Dragon" Weapons II project is the successful completion of the aircraft and avionics weapons systems to improve the design and testing work, passed a supplementary design qualification review, and has laid a solid foundation to further explore the international market.

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Is it about JF-17 ?

YES


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some clear video of JF17

 

[farhan_9909]

The Xiaolong aircraft supplementary design through the identification review

Source: AVIC aviation equipment Date :2012 -12-25

December 21st, AVIC aviation equipment "Fierce Dragon" aircraft (weapon II) supplement design qualification review will be held in Chengdu, Sichuan. "Fierce Dragon" Weapons II project is the successful completion of the aircraft and avionics weapons systems to improve the design and testing work, passed a supplementary design qualification review, and has laid a solid foundation to further explore the international market.

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Is it about JF-17 ?

WEAPON II?

must be block 2
may be translation mistake

seems like progress on jft 2 is ON

 

[Nishan_101]

some income double seats JF17, for reference:

草根版-成飞“枭龙”双座教练/战斗机，基本数据（仅供参考）


翼展： 9.40　米　（不含翼尖导弹）
机长： 14.62　米　（不含空速管）
机高： 4.92　米
机翼面积： 　　28.20平方米
主翼后掠角：　　　40.00度
后缘前掠角：　　　2.50度
主翼展弦比：　　　　　2.98
垂尾后掠角：　　45　　度
平尾后掠角：　　42　　度

主轮距： 2.54米
前主轮距： 4.98米
正常起飞重量： 10500千克
最大起飞重量： 15000千克
外挂能力： 4800千克
发动机：WS-13改进型，推力9500千克

最大马赫数： M1.7
实用升限： 17000米
起飞滑跑距离： 420米
着陆滑跑距离： 650米
转场航程： 3000千米
限制过载： 8G

i am sorry for showing Chinese, hope some one can translate it into English, thanks

But then it will going to have retractable inflight re-fueling probe with CFTs and composites with WS-13(100KN)....

 

[Dazzler]

WEAPON II?

must be block 2
may be translation mistake

seems like progress on jft 2 is ON

Block 2 config is being tested for quite a while now in China.