JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

[blain2]

I don't think that this article has any credibility because they think that a stealth fighter is needed to counter the 50 year old MIG-21.

Let them compare it to Kiran. It should matter little to the PAF. I'd rather have an underestimated aircraft perform well than talking up everything to get the "feel good" factor going.

 

[ironman]

I don't think that this article has any credibility because they think that a stealth fighter is needed to counter the 50 year old MIG-21.

The news is reliable because outlook is quoting from a special issue of "Aviation Week" on Farnborough 2010.

P.S: Leave the Mig-21 part

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

well goodness gracious me, it's indian media (go figure)

i take those articles not even 0.0001% seriously if I want factual information especially on defence matters



actually i would never dress down the Mig-21 as it is a formidable fighter despite its age....but only when in the right hands, and when airworthy & maintained properly

 

[Dazzler]

Wind corrected Munition Dispenser, WMD

Not the Weapon of Mass Destruction.. loll

 

[Zarbe Momin]

Its real SD-10 missel or demo because it is on soil in one picture.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Maybe its the BLKII of JF-17 Thunder????
I remember an old articles by a malaysian senior defence expert talking abt the stealthy version of JF-17.........on tempur?

 

[Dazzler]

I was waiting to see recce and jamming pods to be honest and hoping to see some in coming days.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Aik Sawal zehan mein aya hey. Agay wala par (Delta Wing) kyon naheen lagaya JF-17 mein ?? Aur bhee acha lagta. Bilkul Rafale jesa

 

[Manticore]

Delta-wing variations

pure delta-wings fell out of favour somewhat due to their undesirable characteristics, notably flow separation at high angles of attack (swept wings have similar problems), and high drag at low altitudes. This limited them primarily to high-speed, high-altitude interceptor roles.

Some modern aircraft, like the F-16, use a cropped delta along with horizontal tail surfaces.

In another variant known variously as compound delta, double delta or cranked arrow, the inner part of the wing has a very high sweepback, while the outer part has less sweepback, to create the high-lift vortex in a more controlled fashion, reduce the drag and thereby allow for landing the delta at acceptably slow speed. This design can be seen on the Saab Draken fighter, the prototype F-16XL "Cranked Arrow" -- f7pg?

As the performance of jet engines grew, fighters with other planforms could perform as well as deltas, and do so while maneuvering much harder and at a wider range of altitudes. Today a remnant of the compound delta can be found on most fighter aircraft, in the form of leading edge extensions. These are effectively very small delta wings placed so they remain parallel to the airflow in cruising flight, but start to generate a vortex at high angles of attack. The vortex is then captured on the top of the wing to provide additional lift, thereby combining the delta's high-alpha performance with a conventional highly efficient wing planform. Many modern fighter aircraft, such as the JAS 39 Gripen, the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Dassault Rafale use a combination of canards and a delta wing.

Aircraft examples
# Chengdu J-7
# Chengdu J-9
# Chengdu J-10
# JF-17 Thunder
# Dassault Mirage III
# Dassault Mirage IV
# Dassault Mirage 2000





Forward-swept wing aircraft Su-47

* higher lift-to-drag ratio
* higher capacity in dogfight maneuvers
* higher range at subsonic speed
* improved stall resistance and anti-spin characteristics
* improved stability at high angles of attack
* a lower minimum flight speed
* a shorter take-off and landing distance

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Delta-wing variations

pure delta-wings fell out of favour somewhat due to their undesirable characteristics, notably flow separation at high angles of attack (swept wings have similar problems), and high drag at low altitudes. This limited them primarily to high-speed, high-altitude interceptor roles.

Some modern aircraft, like the F-16, use a cropped delta along with horizontal tail surfaces.

In another variant known variously as compound delta, double delta or cranked arrow, the inner part of the wing has a very high sweepback, while the outer part has less sweepback, to create the high-lift vortex in a more controlled fashion, reduce the drag and thereby allow for landing the delta at acceptably slow speed. This design can be seen on the Saab Draken fighter, the prototype F-16XL "Cranked Arrow" -- f7pg?

As the performance of jet engines grew, fighters with other planforms could perform as well as deltas, and do so while maneuvering much harder and at a wider range of altitudes. Today a remnant of the compound delta can be found on most fighter aircraft, in the form of leading edge extensions. These are effectively very small delta wings placed so they remain parallel to the airflow in cruising flight, but start to generate a vortex at high angles of attack. The vortex is then captured on the top of the wing to provide additional lift, thereby combining the delta's high-alpha performance with a conventional highly efficient wing planform. Many modern fighter aircraft, such as the JAS 39 Gripen, the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Dassault Rafale use a combination of canards and a delta wing.

Aircraft examples
# Chengdu J-7
# Chengdu J-9
# Chengdu J-10
# JF-17 Thunder
# Dassault Mirage III
# Dassault Mirage IV
# Dassault Mirage 2000





Forward-swept wing aircraft Su-47

* higher lift-to-drag ratio
* higher capacity in dogfight maneuvers
* higher range at subsonic speed
* improved stall resistance and anti-spin characteristics
* improved stability at high angles of attack
* a lower minimum flight speed
* a shorter take-off and landing distance

Thank you very much for this very informative reply.

To extend this argument, will the J-10/FC-20 be without delta wing ??

 

[Manticore]

Thank you very much for this very informative reply.

To extend this argument, will the J-10/FC-20 be without delta wing ??

Airframe and cockpit
A model of the J-10a

Constructed from metal alloys and composite materials for high strength and low weight, the airframe's aerodynamic layout adopts a "tail-less canard delta" wing configuration. A large delta wing is mid-mounted towards the rear of the fuselage, while a pair of canards (or foreplanes) are mounted higher up and towards the front of the fuselage, behind and below the cockpit. This configuration provides very high agility, especially at high speed. A large vertical tail is present on top of the fuselage and small ventral fins underneath the fuselage provide further stability.


http://dc281.*******.com/img/342560227/8ee6c45a/2-j10_schem_04.jpg?rnd=0.6324809971010444


http://dc281.*******.com/img/342560854/553986f1/1-f16_4_3.png?rnd=0.2726970777513018

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Airframe and cockpit
A model of the J-10a

Constructed from metal alloys and composite materials for high strength and low weight, the airframe's aerodynamic layout adopts a "tail-less canard delta" wing configuration. A large delta wing is mid-mounted towards the rear of the fuselage, while a pair of canards (or foreplanes) are mounted higher up and towards the front of the fuselage, behind and below the cockpit. This configuration provides very high agility, especially at high speed. A large vertical tail is present on top of the fuselage and small ventral fins underneath the fuselage provide further stability.


http://dc281.*******.com/img/342560227/8ee6c45a/2-j10_schem_04.jpg?rnd=0.6324809971010444


http://dc281.*******.com/img/342560854/553986f1/1-f16_4_3.png?rnd=0.2726970777513018

Thank you. I understand it better now.

 

[wangrong]

 

[TaimiKhan]

Well the targeting pod as well as in the background a jamming pod (most probably) have now been revealed and they seem cool.

Awesome surprise for the JF-17s

It seems one JF-17s has been shown in the air superiority configuration, while the other one is shown with ground attack configuration.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Absolutely Stunning Pictures, Thanks for sharing people

At last We've Got Glimpse of all weapons with JF-17