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JF-17 BLOCK-II production crosses 30 planes while IAF has inducted only 2 Tejas

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Recent photos from Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) show that JF-17 Block-II production has reached 33 aircraft (2P-33), showing that production of the variant has crossed the half-way mark. Moreover, it appears that the Pakistan Air Force (PAF)’s Block-II production run could conclude in 2017. These second-half (i.e. 2P-25/26-50) units are also configured for in-flight refuelling, albeit through a removable probe on the starboard side of the fighter.

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In December 2016, PAC announced that it delivered a total of 70 JF-17s to the PAF since the fighter was inducted in 2010-2011. This would mean that 20 JF-17 Block-IIs were inducted (in 2016), but this figure evidently did not include the total number of Block-II fighters produced. Considering that 16 JF-17s were built in 2015, PAC must have rolled out at least 17 JF-17s in 2016.

PAC may have also produced units for export. It is not clear if these units are counted in the “2P-XX” bracket. PAC is aiming to gradually increase its annual production to 20-24 aircraft. However, if the PAF’s Block-II needs are fulfilled in 2017, PAC would be able to commit the remaining year(s) until JF-17 Block-III for exports. PAC could actively pursue new customers, such as Azerbaijan, and follow-on orders from current customers in 2017-2018. This is assuming the PAF does not opt to order additional JF-17 Block-IIs.

Another variable is the twin-seat JF-17B. The JF-17B was supposed to have been test flown by the end of 2016. The PAF could procure the JF-17B as an operational conversion unit (OCU) system and potentially lead-in fighter-trainer (LIFT). It is not known if the JF-17B orders would come from the existing Block-II run (for 50 planes) or if it would amount to additional orders. The PAF’s additional Block-II orders could come in the form of JF-17Bs, albeit at a lower rate, leaving a substantial – if not most – of PAC open for exports.

With 40 JF-17 aircrafts already inducted into Pakistan air force and Two Tejas inducted in IAF, at least in papers JF-17 seems to be a successful project, but it is also clear that approach taken by IAF and PAF on LCA and JF-17 have been completely opposite to each other in terms of participation and acceptance levels of the aircraft.

For Pakistani air force JF-17 will be replacing aging A-5C, Mirage-III, Mirage-V, and F-7P/PG by 2015 and JF-17 is slated to become the backbone of Pakistan Airforce (PAF), JF-17 will also will be providing PAF next Gen technology, But for IAF Lca will not be bringing any new technology which it does not possess and will not be backbone or even lead secondary aircraft in future ,role of JF-17 and Tejas to their respected air force are different and also shows different approach taken by them .

PAF inducted JF-17 when it was capable only to carry PL-5EII WVR air to air missiles and fuel tanks over the time BVR missiles and other weapons were added to the aircraft; it took two years for PAF and Pakistani Aeronautical establishment to bring it to IOC standards. PAF already has Two Squadrons of JF-17 which are mostly used for carrying out such tests and for pilot conversion training.

IAF on other hand only agreed to accept 20 IOC-2 standard LCA and 20 more of FOC standards , while whole 40 JF-17 inducted by PAF are of IOC standards , this clearly shows IAF hesitance in inducting more LCA at its Initial stage , while PAF inducted larger number of JF-17 aircrafts with their IOC limitations . Both air forces have plans to induct close to 250 of such aircrafts in their fleet and approach taken by PAF will lead them to higher induction rate and better production line.

While JF-17 will be Pakistan’s main fighter accompanied by their upgraded F-16s, whereas LCA Tejas will be India’s additional aircraft for medium role combat missions after Indo-Russian 5th generation fighter aircraft PAK-FA, Under-development indigenous 5th Gen AMCA (Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft), Indo Russian 4.5 Gen Su-30MKI and to-be-inducted 126 4.5 Gen MRCA Dassualt Rafael (Multi Role Combat Aircraft).
PAF inducted JF-17 when it had not matured and suffered from technical deficiencies but brought standard of aircrafts in blocks to make it combat capable.

If IAF had agreed to more Tejas MK-1 in IOC standards, it could have helped starting and stabilizing production line for the aircraft. With limited orders for Tejas MK-1, aircrafts will be produced at slower rate and even Induction will be at much slower rate, while PAF with a stable production line will induct next 20 JF-17 of Block-II standard next year bringing total to 70 aircrafts while Tejas MK-1 handed over to IAF will only stand at 4.

http://defenceupdate.in/jf-17-block...0-planes-while-iaf-has-inducted-only-2-tejas/
 
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Lol.
HAL.has already produced 194 Su-30 MKI.
And it has far more Indian content than there's Pakistani content in JF-17.
India even Produces large number of parts for Al-31FP, mainly the Titanium blades come from Russia.

Read the OP again .. specially the title
 
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Lol.
HAL.has already produced 194 Su-30 MKI.
And it has far more Indian content than there's Pakistani content in JF-17.
India even Produces large number of parts for Al-31FP, mainly the Titanium blades come from Russia.
We also assemble 200+ su 30's ..actually we manufacture many parts not assemble them like Pakistan... And Tejas is manufacturing which Pakistan can't understand..
Bonds on fire!

The Su-30 is a Russian produced plane.
India buys it's su-30's from Russia 'as in pays with money' (with some level of localization) and as a result can't export them.

The JF-17 was actually jointly developed (like the eurofighter was) and as a result has already locked export orders.

BTW, the only Indian 'content' in the Su-30 are those pilots of yours who can't grow beards.
 
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We also assemble 200+ su 30's ..actually we manufacture many parts not assemble them like Pakistan... And Tejas is manufacturing which Pakistan can't understand..
 
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Bond on fire!

The Su-30 is a Russian produced plane.
India buys it's su-30's from Russia 'as in pays with money' (with some level of localization) and as a result can't export them.

The JF-17 was actually jointly developed (like the eurofighter was) and as a result has already locked export orders.

BTW, the only Indian 'content' in the Su-30 are those pilots of yours who can't grow beards.
JF-17 is a Chinese plane with Russian engine, there is no Pakistani part in JF-17 other than a few metal parts.
 
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JF-17 is a Chinese plane with Russian engine, there is no Pakistani part in JF-17 other than a few metal parts.
Can't tell if your bond is on fire or if you have been blinded by the Indian media.

If you have been blinded, here you can see all of Pakistan's contributions to the JF-17 programme:
https://defence.pk/forums/jf-17-thunder.108/

If your bond is on fire:
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Can't tell if your bond is on fire or if you have been blinded by the Indian media.

If you have been blinded, here you can see all of Pakistan's contributions to the JF-17 programme:
https://defence.pk/forums/jf-17-thunder.108/

If your bond is on fire:
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Memes is not going to change the reality that Pakistani contribution in JF-17 Is negligible.

Can't tell if your bond is on fire or if you have been blinded by the Indian media.

If you have been blinded, here you can see all of Pakistan's contributions to the JF-17 programme:
https://defence.pk/forums/jf-17-thunder.108/

If your bond is on fire:
View attachment 368811
Memes is not going to change the reality that Pakistani contribution in JF-17 Is negligible.
 
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The difference is Tejas is a completely Indian aircraft which India has built from ground up, where as Jf-17 is Chinese aircraft, which Pakistan assembles.

Pakistani contributions to Jf-17 are next to nil, It is little more than licensed manufacturing deal being presented as joint development.

Correct equivalent to Pakistan manufacture of Jf-17 , will be Indian licensed production of Su-30MKI of which India has over 200. Factually speaking Su 30 MKI has more Indian contribution than JF-17 has Pakistani.
 
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Bond on fire!

The Su-30 is a Russian produced plane.
India buys it's su-30's from Russia 'as in pays with money' (with some level of localization) and as a result can't export them.

The JF-17 was actually jointly developed (like the eurofighter was) and as a result has already locked export orders.

BTW, the only Indian 'content' in the Su-30 are those pilots of yours who can't grow beards.


Oh Thn again read something on sukhoi 30 mki NT on Chinese sukhoi30mkm which is too weak against MKI hope u know that..
Nd in first India buy that sukhoi bt after that they r jointly produce that with new specifications in India with Indian, Israel nd France avionics...nd that was too good that Russia has also ordered it with name of sukhoi 30sms go study something...
Nd I want to ask what part Pakistan making in this joint venture well in my knowledge all weapons r frm China, France nd Brazil.. aweonics r frm China.Nd engine we all know nd don't say steel body its also made in China...
 
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The difference is Tejas is a completely Indian aircraft which India has built from ground up, where as Jf-17 is Chinese aircraft, which Pakistan assembles.

Pakistani contributions to Jf-17 are next to nil, It is little more than licensed manufacturing deal being presented as joint development.

Correct equivalent to Pakistan manufacture of Jf-17 , will be Indian licensed production of Su-30MKI of which India has over 200. Factually speaking Su 30 MKI has more Indian contribution than JF-17 has Pakistani.


LOL Right Teja Bhai is very INDIGENOUS

Even the Tires and Landing gear is being imported
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