JF-17 BLOCK-II production crosses 30 planes while IAF has inducted only 2 Tejas

[Callsign Chaos]

Lol
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Name any Indigenous content In your JF17 ???

Kek.
JF-17 just got BTFOd.

 

[TooRave]

Tejas designing,implementation & assembling all done by India itself..Not much of class but still great achievement by India..

Indian Components:

1. Airframe and composites
2. Landing gear
3. Electronic warfare suite
4. Displays
5. Flight control system (Fly by wire system)
6. crash resistant self sealing fuel tanks.
7. valves, wires and plumbing.

Joint development or custom imported components: These are components that are developed by sub-contracting to overseas development but are specific to LCA.

1. Radar : This is in joint development with Elts but a custom Radar for LCA as per indian requirements(Indigenous UTTAM AESA in developing stage)
2. Targeting pods
3. LRUs : These are the brains of the aircraft and are quasi Indian. They use imported silicon Chips (we dont have semicondur capability). However the actual circuit board, system design, standards for interface and the software are 100% Indian.
4. Missiles: Some are licence produced and others are fully Indian. Its a mix.

Fully imported:

1. Radar covering cone i.e the front cone section of the aircraft which is a quartz based structure imported from UK.
2. Engine from USA
3. Ejection seats
4. silicon semiconductor ICs

That puts it at about 60% by value.
Later in November govt told parliament that it was increased to 70%...


Really want to know how much indigenous contents are used in JF17 & how many spares are produced locally in Pakistan..?

 

[hussain0216]

Indians jumping through hoops

Now tell us how great Arjun is and how you are going to have 200 LCA by 2018

 

[TooRave]

Indians jumping through hoops

Now tell us how great Arjun is and how you are going to have 200 LCA by 2018

You were talking about Tejas.Why are you circling around like a squirrel?
Your Al Khalid is also a variant of MBT 2000..You people don't have anything called indigenous..

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Please name a single Pakistani contribution to the Jf-17.

lol. I mean, this is the reason why no serious talk can take place on this site.
Look at the Image 85% is Fake !

This has been discussed a million times.

Hint : Add Those parts and see if you can make even 50% of the ACTUAL aircraft ! ( Air Frame , Astra BVR , Mission Computer , FBW etc. etc. ALL are MISSING ... why ? )

Lol
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Name any Indigenous content In your JF17 ???

Go to Pakistan Airforce section 8 Threads of JF-17 are there...

 

[monitor]

Recent photos from Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) show that JF-17 Block-II production has reached 33 aircraft (2P-33), showing that production of the variant has crossed the half-way mark. Moreover, it appears that the Pakistan Air Force (PAF)’s Block-II production run could conclude in 2017. These second-half (i.e. 2P-25/26-50) units are also configured for in-flight refuelling, albeit through a removable probe on the starboard side of the fighter.

Notes & Comments:

In December 2016, PAC announced that it delivered a total of 70 JF-17s to the PAF since the fighter was inducted in 2010-2011. This would mean that 20 JF-17 Block-IIs were inducted (in 2016), but this figure evidently did not include the total number of Block-II fighters produced. Considering that 16 JF-17s were built in 2015, PAC must have rolled out at least 17 JF-17s in 2016.

PAC may have also produced units for export. It is not clear if these units are counted in the “2P-XX” bracket. PAC is aiming to gradually increase its annual production to 20-24 aircraft. However, if the PAF’s Block-II needs are fulfilled in 2017, PAC would be able to commit the remaining year(s) until JF-17 Block-III for exports. PAC could actively pursue new customers, such as Azerbaijan, and follow-on orders from current customers in 2017-2018. This is assuming the PAF does not opt to order additional JF-17 Block-IIs.

Another variable is the twin-seat JF-17B. The JF-17B was supposed to have been test flown by the end of 2016. The PAF could procure the JF-17B as an operational conversion unit (OCU) system and potentially lead-in fighter-trainer (LIFT). It is not known if the JF-17B orders would come from the existing Block-II run (for 50 planes) or if it would amount to additional orders. The PAF’s additional Block-II orders could come in the form of JF-17Bs, albeit at a lower rate, leaving a substantial – if not most – of PAC open for exports.

With 40 JF-17 aircrafts already inducted into Pakistan air force and Two Tejas inducted in IAF, at least in papers JF-17 seems to be a successful project, but it is also clear that approach taken by IAF and PAF on LCA and JF-17 have been completely opposite to each other in terms of participation and acceptance levels of the aircraft.

For Pakistani air force JF-17 will be replacing aging A-5C, Mirage-III, Mirage-V, and F-7P/PG by 2015 and JF-17 is slated to become the backbone of Pakistan Airforce (PAF), JF-17 will also will be providing PAF next Gen technology, But for IAF Lca will not be bringing any new technology which it does not possess and will not be backbone or even lead secondary aircraft in future ,role of JF-17 and Tejas to their respected air force are different and also shows different approach taken by them .

PAF inducted JF-17 when it was capable only to carry PL-5EII WVR air to air missiles and fuel tanks over the time BVR missiles and other weapons were added to the aircraft; it took two years for PAF and Pakistani Aeronautical establishment to bring it to IOC standards. PAF already has Two Squadrons of JF-17 which are mostly used for carrying out such tests and for pilot conversion training.

IAF on other hand only agreed to accept 20 IOC-2 standard LCA and 20 more of FOC standards , while whole 40 JF-17 inducted by PAF are of IOC standards , this clearly shows IAF hesitance in inducting more LCA at its Initial stage , while PAF inducted larger number of JF-17 aircrafts with their IOC limitations . Both air forces have plans to induct close to 250 of such aircrafts in their fleet and approach taken by PAF will lead them to higher induction rate and better production line.

While JF-17 will be Pakistan’s main fighter accompanied by their upgraded F-16s, whereas LCA Tejas will be India’s additional aircraft for medium role combat missions after Indo-Russian 5th generation fighter aircraft PAK-FA, Under-development indigenous 5th Gen AMCA (Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft), Indo Russian 4.5 Gen Su-30MKI and to-be-inducted 126 4.5 Gen MRCA Dassualt Rafael (Multi Role Combat Aircraft).
PAF inducted JF-17 when it had not matured and suffered from technical deficiencies but brought standard of aircrafts in blocks to make it combat capable.

If IAF had agreed to more Tejas MK-1 in IOC standards, it could have helped starting and stabilizing production line for the aircraft. With limited orders for Tejas MK-1, aircrafts will be produced at slower rate and even Induction will be at much slower rate, while PAF with a stable production line will induct next 20 JF-17 of Block-II standard next year bringing total to 70 aircrafts while Tejas MK-1 handed over to IAF will only stand at 4.

http://defenceupdate.in/jf-17-block...0-planes-while-iaf-has-inducted-only-2-tejas/

It's not the quality that hamper the induction of Tejas is IAF inventory but the approach to the aircraft. If IAF followed PAF footprints than we would have seen many Tejaj in IAF color.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Yes Tejas is India's indigenous product, just like how Jf -17 is a Chinese indigenous product despite, Russian engines, English ejection seat , Russian guns , American and Brazilian missiles.

Can you name a single Pakistani contribution to Jf-17.

Pakistan Using Brazilian Missile?? which one

 

[Imran Khan]

Pakistan Using Brazilian Missile?? which one

MAR-1

 

[GORKHALI]

Can't tell if your bond is on fire or if you have been blinded by the Indian media.

If you have been blinded, here you can see all of Pakistan's contributions to the JF-17 programme:
https://defence.pk/forums/jf-17-thunder.108/

If your bond is on fire:
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Just like the Burnol you talking about. That's Indian pharmaceutical product from Dr Morepen ...
See that how you people sucks even in this .......

 

[Hassan Guy]

Just like the Burnol you talking about. That's Indian pharmaceutical product from Dr Morepen ...

No wonder they produced it.

See that how you people sucks even in this .......

Not as much as your english. (If thats what it is)

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The time has arrived for expansion of JF17 Thunder production factory
One for Local Production and One dedicated for Export Orders

 

[Major Sam]

Just like the Burnol you talking about. That's Indian pharmaceutical product from Dr Morepen ...
See that how you people sucks even in this .......

Zrurat ijaad ki maa ha,

so no doubt burnol is made by indians.

 

[Osiris]

Go to Pakistan Airforce section 8 Threads of JF-17 are there...

You can make 100 threads on Jf-17 , but Pakistani contribution Jf-17 are so insignificant , that Pakistani members can't even recall a single one.

That is why, they keep pointing towards Jf-17 threads, to avoid answering the question.

 

[xyxmt]

We also assemble 200+ su 30's ..actually we manufacture many parts not assemble them like Pakistan... And Tejas is manufacturing which Pakistan can't understand..

you call not making a manufacturing?

 

[My-Analogous]

We also assemble 200+ su 30's ..actually we manufacture many parts not assemble them like Pakistan... And Tejas is manufacturing which Pakistan can't understand..

Trust me in past 30 years even Indian can't understand it, let Pakistan aside

Memes is not going to change the reality that Pakistani contribution in JF-17 Is negligible.


Memes is not going to change the reality that Pakistani contribution in JF-17 Is negligible.

Prove it with proper independent reference

You can make 100 threads on Jf-17 , but Pakistani contribution Jf-17 are so insignificant , that Pakistani members can't even recall a single one.

That is why, they keep pointing towards Jf-17 threads, to avoid answering the question.

Read jf17 thread from beginning to understand our input in this project.