JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[Awan68]

Basically the airframe will be more or less the same, as there were speculations the airframe could be modified having twin tails.

He said roughly the same which could mean some minor to medium modifications.

 

[Jinn Baba]

Two points to note:

Yang said that the development and batch production for the JF-17 Block 3 are going simultaneously, thanks to the broad experience.

Meaning we will have more than just the prototype by the end of the year, and this I suppose clears the question of what PAC has been building since production of Block 2 finished.

And, worringly:

Wei said this probably means while the upgrades like the new AESA radar are still in development, the air-frame, which remains roughly the same, can be manufactured without waiting.

Once new developments are complete, they can be fitted on the air-frame very fast, ensuring a quick delivery time, Wei said.

This suggests that Block 3 wont come off the production line with AESA and some of the other gizmos we were hoping for

 

[GriffinsRule]

Two points to note:

Yang said that the development and batch production for the JF-17 Block 3 are going simultaneously, thanks to the broad experience.

Meaning we will have more than just the prototype by the end of the year, and this I suppose clears the question of what PAC has been building since production of Block 2 finished.

And, worringly:

Wei said this probably means while the upgrades like the new AESA radar are still in development, the air-frame, which remains roughly the same, can be manufactured without waiting.

Once new developments are complete, they can be fitted on the air-frame very fast, ensuring a quick delivery time, Wei said.

This suggests that Block 3 wont come off the production line with AESA and some of the other gizmos we were hoping for

Id rather we have a fully functioning and tested AESA radar vs trying to rush just for the sake of it and ending up with something that does not meet our requirements or the challenges it will face

 

[Clutch]

Basically the airframe will be more or less the same, as there were speculations the airframe could be modified having twin tails.

I too predict that airframe will stay relatively the same. I expect a larger wing span and higher use of composites.

 

[khansaheeb]

Normal prototype / release cycle by August

It was already planned to do a launch of Block III 2019 a bit late from my estimate thought it would have been done in 2015, full 4 year late at present rates

For the plane itself a mile stone

I strongly feel we need to make 3 more factories to ramp up production so modernization targets are met, factory in every province specifically away from line of control

Needs to have integration with radar Satellites so we have a complete 3D picture of the activities of the enemies.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

upgrades like the new AESA radar are still in development, t

seriously i am concerned. Isn't it unsettling

 

[Yaseen1]

block 2 and 1 should be upgraded to block 3

 

[Beast]

He said roughly the same which could mean some minor to medium modifications.

That is only airframe but system will be a major upgrade.

 

[khansaheeb]

Normal prototype / release cycle by August

It was already planned to do a launch of Block III 2019 a bit late from my estimate thought it would have been done in 2015, full 4 year late at present rates

For the plane itself a mile stone

I strongly feel we need to make 3 more factories to ramp up production so modernization targets are met, factory in every province specifically away from line of control

Definitely we need 3 more factories but we need to start AZM or another twin engine plane project, let's use Block III as a stepping stone for the next 6th gen plane

 

[Dil Pakistan]

I too predict that airframe will stay relatively the same. I expect a larger wing span and higher use of composites.

That is only airframe but system will be a major upgrade.

ACM (rtd.) Sohail Aman on his retirement had said "Block-3 design has been finalised".

Note the word DESIGN

How can the frame remain the same?

 

[Clutch]

ACM (rtd.) Sohail Aman on his retirement had said "Block-3 design has been finalised".

Note the word DESIGN

How can the frame remain the same?

Design could mean any component including avionics, airframe, any other system or subsystem.

Design does not exclusively mean airframe. Where do you get the idea that design only means airframe?

Fyi...

 

[Jinn Baba]

Id rather we have a fully functioning and tested AESA radar vs trying to rush just for the sake of it and ending up with something that does not meet our requirements or the challenges it will face

I agree. Was under the impression that the AESA was already tested and fully functional and to be fitted on the Block 3 from the get go

 

[Dr Shaheryar]

AESA is now in integration mode, will take time to be fully functional and running for testing.

 

[The Eagle]

Source

JF-17 Block 3 jet expected to be fitted with active electronically scanned array radar
By Liu Xuanzun
Source:Global Times
Published: 2019, March 11

Development of JF-17 Block 3 jet underway

A JF-17 fighter jet attached to the Pakistan Air Force flies towards the designated airspace during an air-to-ground offensive operation drill conducted by two Chinese JH-7 fighter bombers and two Pakistani JF-17 fighter jets on Sept. 20, 2017, which is part of the "Shaheen VI " joint training exercise launched by the air forces of China and Pakistan on Sept. 8 and scheduled to conclude on Sept. 27, 2017. Photo: eng.chinamil.com.cn

The development and production of the JF-17 Block 3 are underway, said Yang Wei, a Chinese legislator and chief designer of the China-Pakistan co-developed fighter jet, as he aims to enhance the jet's informatized warfare capability and weapons.

"All related work is being carried out," said Yang at a Thursday press conference featuring Chinese legislators and political advisers in aviation, China Aviation News reported Friday.

The third block will see the JF-17's informatized warfare capability and weapons upgraded, Yang said.

Wei Dongxu, a Beijing-based military analyst, told the Global Times on Monday that the JF-17 Block 3 is expected to be fitted with an active electronically scanned array radar, which can gather more information in combat, enabling the fighter jet to engage from a farther range and attack multiple targets at the same time. A helmet-mounted display and sight system could also allow pilots to aim whatever he sees.

Pakistan, the main user of the JF-17, could further share information between the fighter and other platforms, taking advantage of the whole combat system to effectively defend against strong opponents like India, Wei said.

With the new upgrade, Wei expects the JF-17 Block 3 to match an improved version of the F-16 fighter jet.

Yang said that the development and batch production for the JF-17 Block 3 are going simultaneously, thanks to the broad experience.

Wei said this probably means while the upgrades like the new AESA radar are still in development, the air-frame, which remains roughly the same, can be manufactured without waiting.

Once new developments are complete, they can be fitted on the air-frame very fast, ensuring a quick delivery time, Wei said.

The JF-17, or the FC-1, is a single-engine multi-role light fighter jet jointly developed by China and Pakistan for export, according to the website of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China.

When asked about which countries have inquired about the JF-17 Block 3, Yang said "A lot of countries have come to buy. You sign [a contract for the JF-17], you benefit."

The JF-17 is often described by its manufacturer and military observers as an advanced but also cost-effective fighter. It is currently contending with India's Tejas and South Korea's FA-50 in Malaysia's new fighter jet purchase plan, with the JF-17 being the most competitive option, Wei said.

Myanmar and Nigeria have reportedly purchased the Chinese-Pakistani warplane.

Thread with similar subject exist hence, merged.

Regards,

 

[mdmm]

From above contents,it said,
""With the new upgrade, Wei expects the JF-17 Block 3 to match an improved version of the F-16 fighter jet.""
Kindly comment,compare and contrast with features, between JF-17 Block 3 to US made F-16 upgraded ??