JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[maverick1977]

Yes, and they have always been there. Nothing special to blk 3

Thank you mk52. so, no fuel increase changes in the Blk3.

 

[kursed]

That nose color change in overhauled block 1s ring the bells.

I won’t say it’s already happened but may be down the line.

 

[Trango Towers]

Not a flop. This was a standard fit for RAF & export Jaguars.

I saw missile on top of the wings during the gulf War

 

[Tornado23]

Thank you mk52. so, no fuel increase changes in the Blk3.

According to some Egyptian source, the jf 17 blk 3 will have CFTs. I don't know how true that is.

هل ستكون المقاتلة الصينية "JF-17 بلوك 3" المتطورة الضيف القادم لسلاح الجو المصري؟ - موقع الدفاع العربي

تتابع مصر المقاتلة الصينية الباكستانية JF-17 منذ عدة سنوات في أمل أن يرضي البلوك الثالث متطلبات وطموحات القوات الجوية المصرية لأن مصر لو تعاقدت على هذه المقاتلة ستكون صفقة تصنيع مشترك وستكون نواة حقيقية لمشروع صناعة مقاتلة مصرية وطنية، حسبما أفاد الخبير في مجال الدفاع المصري سامح الجلاد...

www.defense-arabic.com

Also also there is a post on pdf which is translated.

Will the advanced Chinese- Pakistani "JF-17 Block 3" fighter be the next guest of the Egyptian Air Force?

Egypt has been pursuing the Sino-Pakistani fighter JF-17 for several years, hoping that the third block will satisfy the requirements and ambitions of the Egyptian Air Force, because if Egypt contracted for this fighter, it would be a joint manufacturing deal and would be a real nucleus for a...

defence.pk

 

[Scorpiooo]

According to some Egyptian source, the jf 17 blk 3 will have CFTs. I don't know how true that is.

هل ستكون المقاتلة الصينية "JF-17 بلوك 3" المتطورة الضيف القادم لسلاح الجو المصري؟ - موقع الدفاع العربي

تتابع مصر المقاتلة الصينية الباكستانية JF-17 منذ عدة سنوات في أمل أن يرضي البلوك الثالث متطلبات وطموحات القوات الجوية المصرية لأن مصر لو تعاقدت على هذه المقاتلة ستكون صفقة تصنيع مشترك وستكون نواة حقيقية لمشروع صناعة مقاتلة مصرية وطنية، حسبما أفاد الخبير في مجال الدفاع المصري سامح الجلاد...

www.defense-arabic.com

Also also there is a post on pdf which is translated.

Will the advanced Chinese- Pakistani "JF-17 Block 3" fighter be the next guest of the Egyptian Air Force?

Egypt has been pursuing the Sino-Pakistani fighter JF-17 for several years, hoping that the third block will satisfy the requirements and ambitions of the Egyptian Air Force, because if Egypt contracted for this fighter, it would be a joint manufacturing deal and would be a real nucleus for a...

defence.pk

JFT wing structure is not designed that it can stand CFTs

 

[m52k85]

Thank you mk52. so, no fuel increase changes in the Blk3.

Well, as the fighters that increase fuel as they evolve either get bigger (larger wings or extended fuselage) for more internal fuel, or rework the ground clearance and wing strength for bigger external tanks. None of this has happened in block 3. However, cant say if moving to full FBW has freed up room to make internal fuel tanks marginally bigger.

Its been debated multiple times here, CFTs while mountable on jf-17 are not practical and we wont be seeing them.

 

[Tempest II]

wondering why there's no discussion about this latest blk3 #3001 pic carrying PL10s & with an odd looking pilot helmet that vaguely resembles the Chinese HMDS & a boat load of extra sensors...
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has this pic been proven to be photo shopped? any info?

Looks fine to me especially around the missiles which I believe are the ones likely to be doubted

 

[Crimson Blue]

Well, as the fighters that increase fuel as they evolve either get bigger (larger wings or extended fuselage) for more internal fuel, or rework the ground clearance and wing strength for bigger external tanks. None of this has happened in block 3.

JF-17B jets can store fuel in vertical stabilizers. People are hoping that block 3 jets may be able to do the same.

 

[khanasifm]

JF-17B jets can store fuel in vertical stabilizers. People are hoping that block 3 jets may be able to do the same.

250 liters in vertical tail

 

[khanasifm]

Has anyone read Afm month of May 2021 article on jf-17 ?

It’s usually available late in the area

Chao

 

[Chak Bamu]

Frankly, no improvement in fuel capacity would be really disappointing in Block III. Also, I recall clearly CFTs being discussed as very much a possibility. What good are strengthened wings & higher payload if there are no CFTs planned? Loiter time is important in a defensive posture and it is entirely dependent upon fuel capacity. Unlike Block I & II configuration Block III is supposed to carry more missiles (4 BVRs + 2 WVRs as opposed to 2 BVRs + 2 WVRs) and hence not just a shoot-and-scoot platform. I do expect at least a marginal improvement in internal fuel capacity & possibility of CFTs.

 

[Trango Towers]

Frankly, no improvement in fuel capacity would be really disappointing in Block III. Also, I recall clearly CFTs being discussed as very much a possibility. What good are strengthened wings & higher payload if there are no CFTs planned? Loiter time is important in a defensive posture and it is entirely dependent upon fuel capacity. Unlike Block I & II configuration Block III is supposed to carry more missiles (4 BVRs + 2 WVRs as opposed to 2 BVRs + 2 WVRs) and hence not just a shoot-and-scoot platform. I do expect at least a marginal improvement in internal fuel capacity & possibility of CFTs.

Air to air refuelling

 

[Chak Bamu]

Air to air refuelling

Constrained by number of re-fuelers & operational costs. It would be far better to have an improved fuel capacity. Airborne refueling would certainly be needed in many scenarios, especially over sea, but I imagine that to be specific to well-planned missions. What about CAPs, interceptions? So improving loiter time without having to resort to air-air refueling is important.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Philip the Arab]

What about buddy-buddy refueling?