Jesus won’t save you — President Xi Jinping will, Chinese Christians told

[Realtalk108]

That is a big prediction. Anyway, I think, by 2050 India should have more than 500 million people than China does with considerable number of people younger than China's. I think anytime after 2060, India will over take China as the largest economy in the world .

I doubt India will even survive with that many people. It already looks gloomy.

 

[Dungeness]

That is a big prediction. Anyway, I think, by 2050 India should have more than 500 million people than China does with considerable number of people younger than China's. I think anytime after 2060, India will over take China as the largest economy in the world .

You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, just like your former president believed superpower by 2012. Yo guys believe tons of weird things anyway.

If you still have no idea the fundamental difference between China and India, we actually have no common ground to conduct any meaningful discussion. One thing is for sure though, India will overtake China as the most populous country in the world. In fact, I thing this may have already happened, considering the poor state of social statistics in India, ie. many Indians do not have id cards as revealed during demonetization.

 

[ito]

You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, just like your former president believed superpower by 2012. Yo guys believe tons of wield things anyway.

If you still have no idea the fundamental difference between China and India, we actually have no common ground to conduct any meaningful discussion. One thing is for sure though, India will overtake China as the most populous country in the world. In fact, I thing this may have already happened, considering the poor state of social statistics in India, ie. many Indians do not have id cards as revealed during demonetization.

There is nothing fundamental difference in economic policies followed by both China and India. Yes, polity is different and that has played an important role in rapid Chinese growth especially between 2000 to 2015. But I think with Chinese growth going downwards and India projected to grow faster than China for next 20 years coupled with younger and more population, India will certainly over take China. Further, I think in next 20 to 30 years, China will become a democratic country that might even further stunt its growth.

 

[Realtalk108]

Certainly explains why 100,000 Chinese citizens who live in India as refugees prefer Hell on Earth to China.


But that's how it has always been in China - it is the only Civilization which enjoys being ruled - whether it is Emperors, British control, Japanese control or the Communist Party Control - they will be fine and accept it. That's what makes China unique.

You mean Tibetans. Well they will be killed by other Tibetans if they went back.

I think Indians enjoy being ruled too. I see so many Indians praising British for railways. You just praised Taj Mahal which was built by Turkish origin emperors.

 

[ito]

I doubt India will even survive with that many people. It already looks gloomy.

Indian population should stabilize at 1.8 billion. Yes, sustainability of the world population (should reach 11 billion at its peak) is a problem, and is not limited just to India. We have one earth and resources are just that much, unless until people migrate to other planets.

 

[Dungeness]

There is nothing fundamental difference in economic policies followed by both China and India. Yes, polity is different and that has played an important role in rapid Chinese growth especially between 2000 to 2015. But I think with Chinese growth going downwards and India projected to grow faster than China for next 20 years coupled with younger and more population, India will certainly over take China. Further, I think in next 20 to 30 years, China will become a democratic country that might even further stunt its growth.

China may have become a "democracy" if not for the example of India carrying the banner of "the biggest democracy in the world".

 

[ito]

China may have become a "democracy" if not for the example of India carrying the banner of "the biggest democracy in the world".

India or not, China will surely become a democratic country.

 

[gambit]

No, there is much fun to do that. After 2000 election, I am done with this BS.

In other words, Political Science is not so easily dismissed after all, as you tried to in post 51.

Nevertheless, in the interests of the thread, I will educate you.

The US uses the 'First Past The Post' ( FPTP ) electoral system...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting

There are plenty of online literature on the details of it, but to sum it up, FPTP is the oldest and arguably the most transparent electoral process, and that over time, the electoral environment tends to stabilize out to two dominant parties. In the US, the Communist Party of the USA ( CPUSA ) is a legitimate entity, as with the Libertarian or any other party. The burden of preeminence, meaning surpassing others, rests entirely upon the members of the parties. It is up to them to convince the populace to come to their sides. So if the CPUSA managed to convince enough Americans, over time, it could be the CPUSA vs Republican, or the CPUSA vs Democrats. Less likely is a three-parties competition. Not impossible, just not likely.

Your Chinese Communists are TERRIFIED of even this most basic electoral system. Not because the Commies would be voted out of office, and no one is predicting that, but because of even the POTENTIALITY of being voted out of office. No wonder the Chinese communists have to resort to personality cults.

So it looks like you are not so knowledgeable about Political Science 101 after all. And I have not even touched multi-party politics as so common in Europe.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Jesus or Allah or Yahweh demands absolute obedience. Communists leaders from Mao to Lenin to Castro are no different. How are they different from religious figures ? Because there are no people burning incense in front of their effigies ?

You missed Stalin. Whose statue was constructed around Russia.

Communist Party is supposed to be above leaders, but sometimes communism becomes toys in the hands of one single dictator.

And you should be asking what's the difference between communism and a religion. They have their own bible (Communist Manifesto), Their prophet (Karl Marx), and many demi - gods. The Kim Jong il, Un, Xi, Mao, and the names you mentioned.

I understand people rewarding success. But, why reward failure and incompetence?

Isn't this a worship.

So, what is Mao's mummy doing in there? What do you mean by putting to display a mummy?
Mao competence is well known.

At least we didn't preserve the father of our nation, we burned his remains and spread the ashes across rivers while constructing a memorial and statues.

 

[kris]

So i guess they should encourage religion then which has always been the downfall of humanity.
tell me what has religion done for this world?Every single thing you're using today is made by an atheist thinker, anyone living under an Atheist state is always extremely smart, i have yet to see a dumb person who is an atheist here.

before you quote any dumb verse, let me tell you that everything you read about "oh look my book is scientific discovered 10000000 billion years ago so we are more scientific" can be found in any other religion's book because they're all MISINTERPRETED.
Lmfaooo what a joke, all those misinterpreted verses turning scientific everytime a scientist makes a new discovery.
absolute turds who believe in this hogwash.

Why don't you buy a mirror at home, you can see that dumb fellow daily

 

[Realtalk108]

That's why they are called refugees - they face persecution.

Well duh. Slavers are taken too kindly in any society.

Praise must be given when apt - and Taj Mahal was built by an Indian Emperor. Next you will claim Mother Teresa is Albanian origin so she can't be called Indian.

LOL at Indian emperor. These were Turks/Afghans. Not even local converted. Like Yuan and Qing dynasty. Mao and his successors are Chinese. Like actual Chinese. If you enjoy being proud of something that occupiers made go ahead be my guest. Next you will say we are so glad British occupied us and gave us railways. After all the British made rail network is actually useful, unlike a useless vanity building.

They waited for leases of Hong Kong and Macau to run out and did not even force the hand of Portugal at the height of the anti-colonial movement. I mean - Portugal!

Nah... They waited because there was an actual agreement for lease. Unlike Goa. When you have a lease it's smarter to be patient. Chinese are smart. If they wanted they could have taken those two parcels of land easily. They fought US to a stalemate way back in 1951.

 

[Kyle Sun]

I am not a religious person but EVERYTHING you said here is -- wrong.


The Chinese government allows because it know it cannot resist, so better to allow and control than to face an underground movement that WILL be more dangerous in the long run.

Please...You got involved in reincarnation.

afraid of underground movement.....
You should learn the history of how cpc beats up kmt

 

[gambit]

afraid of underground movement.....
You should learn the history of how cpc beats up kmt

Guess violence is still the norm for communists. Or fake communists, any way.

You missed Stalin. Whose statue was constructed around Russia.

Communist Party is supposed to be above leaders, but sometimes communism becomes toys in the hands of one single dictator.

And you should be asking what's the difference between communism and a religion. They have their own bible (Communist Manifesto), Their prophet (Karl Marx), and many demi - gods. The Kim Jong il, Un, Xi, Mao, and the names you mentioned.

If you read post 38 page 3, you can see that it is a tacit admittance that the only type of leadership the Chinese people are used to, and perhaps even preferred, is that of a dictatorship. It is as if -- by the words of one of their own -- that the Chinese people would rather be led than be persuaded.

 

[Jackdaws]

Well duh. Slavers are taken too kindly in any society.



LOL at Indian emperor. These were Turks/Afghans. Not even local converted. Like Yuan and Qing dynasty. Mao and his successors are Chinese. Like actual Chinese. If you enjoy being proud of something that occupiers made go ahead be my guest. Next you will say we are so glad British occupied us and gave us railways. After all the British made rail network is actually useful, unlike a useless vanity building.



Nah... They waited because there was an actual agreement for lease. Unlike Goa. When you have a lease it's smarter to be patient. Chinese are smart. If they wanted they could have taken those two parcels of land easily. They fought US to a stalemate way back in 1951.

Haha - I too would be ashamed to display my real flag if I were Chinese, so I don't blame you.
Converted? LOL - He was the Indian Emperor - what would he convert to - Confucianism? But I can see why all this a bit too complex for a Chinese citizen. That's why India is doing the humane thing by given Chinese citizens refugee status.

Take could have taken Hong Kong? LOL , from the British? Sure - keep telling yourself that - who knows you might even begin to believe it.

 

[gambit]

So, what is Mao's mummy doing in there? What do you mean by putting to display a mummy?

There is a great difference between a statue versus an embalmed corpse.

In the political realm, we associate statues same with any other objects -- symbolism.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/22/making-of-a-saint-the-vaticans-quest-to-preserve-its-leaders/

But it is not the same with a human corpse. We associate the actual human body with the person himself, or herself, along with all of that person's living attributes such as personality and charisma. So when we embalm a corpse and display it as an object of veneration, it is idolatry of the religious kind.