Jerusalem -The Land that will decide Truth and Falsehood (Quran/Sunnah)

[jacklord]

How do we identify if its an angle or Jinn ?


Seriously? Says who?

if you remove all these factors .. will you be united or not - all these factors not dividing you ?

Because false Mesaiah will rise from there. An armed group from that area will rise, form an alliance, build an army and will move toward Mecca to destroy holy Ka'aba. However they will not succeed because of you know who

so what will you do in alquds ? will you fight those who are living in your country for so many years ?

 

[El Sidd]

I love your Mindfullness -- now your second homework go and read history of democracy? please don't forget who were the pioneer.. i am sorry but some shocking treatment to ruffle your feather - YEAR IS 1917-1920

I really don't care about conspiracy theories. It's an idea. An opinion. Deal with it instead of discussing the religious aspects of it.

You cannot take shortcuts to come to a conclusion. It's much more calculated but you are clearly religiously motivation which I can only respect but may disagree with it as well.

 

[jacklord]

I really don't care about conspiracy theories. It's an idea. An opinion. Deal with it instead of discussing the religious aspects of it.

You cannot take shortcuts to come to a conclusion. It's much more calculated but you are clearly religiously motivation which I can only respect but may disagree with it as well.

No please read as you said i am religiously motivated so the pioneers of democracy were not religiously motivated do you any proof of their honest show me successful peaceful united democratic country in this world when you used minority = opposition it will bound to create mischief due to its role and resentment ? am i right or wrong ?

 

[BATMAN]

if you remove all these factors .. will you be united or not - all these factors not dividing you ?

I say its otherwise..... more you introduce new things in Islam, more it will be divided and that's how sects. come into being.
All the killings in the world happened due to heresy aka ahadees.... can it be possible that Mohammad pbuh left Frankenstein among his umma.... some thing contrary to what Quran demands from a believer?

While, I'm simply asking questions for the sake of clarifications... just like an open minded kid would ask.

In Arabian peninsula, i have read somewhere Arabian Muslims of peninsula themselves will help him to establish Islamic country not a kingdom man! LOL

This exception is a product of your personal bias!

On ground, IMCTC is the closest thing we have.

 

[El Sidd]

No please read as you said i am religiously motivated so the pioneers of democracy were not religiously motivated do you any proof of their honest show me successful peaceful united democratic country in this world when you used minority = opposition it will bound to create mischief due to its role and resentment ? am i right or wrong ?

As long as the very concept of minority exist there will be oppression of whatever kind fashionable.

This is human psychology. This can be religiously misunderstood as well.

Democracy help sets the preset for order agreed upon by the parties to peacefully coexist.

Religions and every one of them basically promote peaceful coexistence and existence.

Human conflict is easily understood by human logic without the need of divine logic.

Divine logic can help you make sense of it but not trigger it.

The world is basically in conflict between two dogmas

Collective rights vs individual rights

I would rather discuss that over calculating when Armageddon is coming.

 

[PakSword]

I really don't care about conspiracy theories.

You do believe on conspiracy theories chacha.. Do I have to remind you what you say about Pakistan being the chosen nation? lolz..

 

[HannibalBarca]

For those still searching for unity...well History is your witness...
THEY WIlL BE NO UNITY...except if "someone" take control of it all... So just cheer fot the next Conqueror...if you want anything near "unity"...

 

[El Sidd]

You do believe on conspiracy theories chacha.. Do I have to remind you what you say about Pakistan being the chosen nation? lolz..

Preferred not chosen.

I don't believe in the word chosen.

For those still searching for unity...well History is your witness...
THEY WIlL BE NO UNITY...except if "someone" take control of it all... So just cheer fot the next Conqueror...if you want anything near "unity"...

Mongols are coming.

Grab a seat

 

[PakSword]

I say its otherwise..... more you introduce new things in Islam, more it will be divided and that's how sects. come into being.
All the killings in the world happened due to ahadees... is it possible Mohammad pbuh left Frankenstein among his umma.... some thing contrary to what Quran demands from a believer?

While, I'm simply asking questions for the sake of clarifications... just like an open minded kid would ask.

Not because of Ahadiths, but Dhaeef and fake ahadiths..

And there is a system in Islam to distinguish between fake and Sahih ahadiths.. Problem is that some people consider fake and Dhaeef ahadith part of their faith because they suit them more..

If you go back to the Sahih ahadith, you will not find contradictions..

Anyway, that's for another day..

Preferred not chosen.

What ever.. it is a conspiracy theory chacha.. promulgated by you on this forum every now and then..

 

[jacklord]

I say its otherwise..... more you introduce new things in Islam, more it will be divided and that's how sects. come into being.
All the killings in the world happened due to ahadees... is it possible Mohammad pbuh left Frankenstein among his umma.... some thing contrary to what Quran demands from a believer?

While, I'm simply asking questions for the sake of clarifications... just like an open minded kid would ask.

i am a student history so i will give some information not proving MY case right OR wrong.. first division came 1-kHILAFAH (bano Hashim - bano ummya)
its was further divided after karbala - sects (shia and sunni)
but still shia and sunni islam representing islam
after this here comes nationalism (arab ajam) fall of ottomons
even it was not enough democracy was introduced to further divide in majority and minority

Take example of turkey
Islam was further divided again on the basis of sects - on small things finest piece Biddah!
Unity is their biggets enemy - divide and rule = Nationalism/democracy/secularism/sectarianism
follow these belief system you will never be united

 

[El Sidd]

What ever.. it is a conspiracy theory chacha.. promulgated by you on this forum every now and then..

It's actually happening if you really think about it but you can't because you need someone else to tell you that.

It's not my job to explain it to you.

It's reality or haqeeqat.

Maybe this guy can help you @HAKIKAT

 

[PakSword]

It's actually happening if you really think about it but you can't because you need someone else to tell you that.

It's not my job to explain it to you.

It's reality or haqeeqat.

Maybe this guy can help you @HAKIKAT

Chacha.. for once I wanted to believe you that you don't believe on conspiracy theories.. but you always prove otherwise..

 

[BATMAN]

Why Alquds is important to you ? You hate israle but 300k jews reside in isfehan which will go to greater israel kingdom once formed done understand this duplicity as every jew will go to Israel as per his belief

You didn't asked why they killed thousands of non-Shia Muslims of Sistan ever since the (un)holy revolution?
If Jews are allowed in Iran, than why so intolerant towards Muslims?

 

[jacklord]

As long as the very concept of minority exist there will be oppression of whatever kind fashionable.

This is human psychology. This can be religiously misunderstood as well.

Democracy help sets the preset for order agreed upon by the parties to peacefully coexist.

Religions and every one of them basically promote peaceful coexistence and existence.

Human conflict is easily understood by human logic without the need of divine logic.

Divine logic can help you make sense of it but not trigger it.

The world is basically in conflict between two dogmas

Collective rights vs individual rights

I would rather discuss that over calculating when Armageddon is coming.

so in theory there should peaceful co existence as you said but is there any such thing in real world with democratic system ?

 

[El Sidd]

Chacha.. for once I wanted to believe you that you don't believe on conspiracy theories.. but you always prove otherwise..

It's an observation not a theory.

Fundamental difference